GDT: Philadelphia Flyers (11-14-6) @ Toronto Maple Leafs (19-10-3) | 7:00PM | CBC

[Suntouchable13]

Things wont change until things change at the top, what I mean is that currently the Leafs are incredibly short sighted, their goal is to just make the playoffs one year, use all the cap space and assets needed to get there and don't worry about long term... It's all good and fine to want to make the playoffs short ter but as a team you also need a long term plan too that conincides with the short term one.

I do see some changes, they did bring in Shanahan who has brought in his "people" but the coach, gm and core players still exist and we're also badly dinged in terms of draft picks. I hope Shanhan can instill a detroit style development which relies heavily on retaining its picks, drafting incredibly smartly and being patient with said propspects...

As for Carlyle, hes got a short leash IMO, one bad losing streak and I think hes gone... as for Nonis? I think hes got a bit of a longer leash because of Shanahan wanting a guy like Dubas or Hunter to grow into the role.

Shanny is another dope. What makes you think he is a good management guy?

 

[Crispy Crust]

This core sucks and the coach sucks. Just change up everything.

 

[Ratboy]

It's way more than that. Even when they win, do they look convincing to you?

Not really. I just like the Joker

 

[Hyperglide]

JVR-Kadri-XXXX
Lupul-Nylander-Santorelli

That is a good possession top 6. If we can fill the 1RW spot in a Bozak/Kessel trade, and get another quality piece or two, we need to do it

This. Good post Coral.

 

[Beleafer19]

Bernier is a back up, and not more. When will Leafs fans realize this.

This Leafs team will miss the playoffs.

You can't be serious, do you think all goalies play lights out every night? Give me a break, use some common sense.

 

[Matt24]

Only question left, will the Flyers get 50 shots?

 

[Daisy Jane]

Do you honestly think I'm happy with these results?

A couple posters in this thread alone know what a huge leafs fan I am(they're just as big) and this is frustrating to post, not enjoyable.

exactly.
(sigh) optimistic or pragmatic, it's not like anyone is actually enjoying this (sigh)

 

[mikeyz]

Berner's best save of the night LOL

Hughson is a moron.

 

[a a ron]

Time to start drinking guys

 

[Divine]

I hope this game has the same result the Nashville game had.

 

[Leaf Lander]

Berner's best save of the night LOL

Least u got it too

 

[Swervin81]

Only question left, will the Flyers get 50 shots?

Or 10 goals.

 

[leafstilldeath*]

The core thats been here for 5 years needs to GTFO

Rielly, JVR, Kadri, Nylander, Gauthier etc.... build from there

 

[LeeIs]

Embarrassing. Even when this team wins they still look bad and are saved by goaltending. A big downslide is coming up on our road trip.

 

[Erdinger]

Things wont change until things change at the top, what I mean is that currently the Leafs are incredibly short sighted, their goal is to just make the playoffs one year, use all the cap space and assets needed to get there and don't worry about long term... It's all good and fine to want to make the playoffs short ter but as a team you also need a long term plan too that conincides with the short term one.

I do see some changes, they did bring in Shanahan who has brought in his "people" but the coach, gm and core players still exist and we're also badly dinged in terms of draft picks. I hope Shanhan can instill a detroit style development which relies heavily on retaining its picks, drafting incredibly smartly and being patient with said propspects...

As for Carlyle, hes got a short leash IMO, one bad losing streak and I think hes gone... as for Nonis? I think hes got a bit of a longer leash because of Shanahan wanting a guy like Dubas or Hunter to grow into the role.

How is Shanahan going to get rid of all these massive long term contracts Burke and Nonis gave to this core? With the Canadian dollar in freefall versus the $US the cap isn't going to be going up.

 

[AlexMo89]

Phaneuf was the Dman that pinched with NO ONE behind him backing him up. So yes Franny was back but Dion took himself out of the play that's what resulted in a 2 on 1

But he was back there

 

[Swervin81]

exactly.
(sigh) optimistic or pragmatic, it's not like anyone is actually enjoying this (sigh)

Pessimistic, you mean?

 

[p.l.f.]

Shame we havent tested Emery, he looks real shaky

 

[happyaccident]

I really wasn't expecting a collapse until February, mid-January at best.

 

[Daisy Jane]

I am not the only one here confused right now lol.

at least 3 assists I have him in my Hockey pool. so that's my bright spot this evening.

 

[cookie]

Who would be Lowry ?

Bozak, obviously.

 

[Kingstonian84*]

Shanny is another dope. What makes you think he is a good management guy?

Lets see? He buys heavily into the anylistics stuff by bringing in Dubas (a very successful ohl gm and numbers guy), he spends $100M on an anylitical wing, he hires Mar Hunter, first thing he does as president is preach skill at the draft and they select Nylander Now ihas he goofed at times? big time espically by not firing Carlyle last season or Nonis... but I give him a bit of a pass because he's still raw as a manger but I think hes doing the best he can do IMO.

 

[Randman]

Bernier making saves from the bench now

 

[Ratboy]

i just got home, not regretting missing this **** show

 

[Suntouchable13]

I don't think the Flyers are 100% happy either, they are not going to play the Leafs every night. They will be in trouble once they play real teams.