Injury Report: Petro to IR for knee injury

[2 Minute Minor]

It's reevaluate after 3 weeks. Could mean it's too swollen now and they can't do necessary tests until it down. If we find out it's worse in three weeks and he is out for the whole year then we don't have a chance in the playoffs without him.

If that's the case (worst case scenario), then get what you can for backes at the deadline while you can

No, they can assess for ligament damage, etc, within a day or two regardless of the immediate swelling. I'd wager he's already had an MRI by now.

I wasn't a fan of the hit, but didn't think it was malicious. I thought he'd missed the knee, but I guess not.

Assuming Pietro is out less than a month, I think this will be good for the team. A chance for Parayko to play with more responsibility and no safety net of Pietro. Also, Shattenkirk will need to step up.

I have the impression the Blues are taking extra precaution and extra time with injured players. The playoff race position gives them the luxury to not worry about it. The team depth also affords the Blues the ability to give Pietro an extra bit of time so that he won't be at partial strength when he comes back. As long as guys are healthy going into the playoffs, I don't really mind these little injuries that come along. Its good for younger players to realize they can perform in bigger roles, too.

Seems like every freaking game vs the Wild results in a Blues player getting injured on an iffy hit. But if you ask their fans, its the Blues who are thugs.

 

[Chojin]

According to our posters, Pietrangelo sucks, so we should be just fine.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

Hate to see it. Prayers for swift recovery. He will be dearly missed. I do wonder if he wasn't having some knee issues going into the game. He wasn't as quick as he usually is. Perhaps aggravating an existing issue? He usually out skates everyone on the ice. He didn't have that going like he usually does.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

I don't understand why Hitch played Paajarvi over Reaves against the Wild, especially given our injury history when facing them. That's the perfect situation to put Reaves in. Paajarvi did diddly squat on Saturday as he usually does, not to mention the two have the same amount of goals this season despite the huge disparity in linemates. Like if that's not an indicator that Paajarvi is completely impotent in the offensive zone then I don't know what is. Might as well just throw Reaves in there to solidify a physical presence and you don't even sacrifice any offensive output in the process

He actually played well.

 

[joshyhockey26]

Dude are you serious? Come on. Do you really think Hitch has told Ryan Reaves not to fight? That's the most ridiculous length I've seen someone stretch to in order to disparage Hitch.

Because I can tell you didn't bother to check, you should know that we're currently 7th in the league in fighting majors right now. If Hitch was "handcuffing" our players, that wouldn't be the case. Reaves is also tied for second for fighting majors right now on our team, so it's not like Hitch is letting everyone else go but telling Reaves not to.

Get outta here with that nonsense

yea I cant see hitch sitting reaves down and saying what he cant do.though I will say I'm sure reaves himself is attempting to spend less time in the box.as its pretty obvious most players who only scrap are now mainly in the ahl/echl/sphl.he seems to be picking and choosing his spots to drop them

 

[BlueDream]

My prediction: it will obviously hurt but won't be as bad as some people who acted like we'd have the worst defense in the league if we ever lost him. Bouwmeester-Shattenkirk, Gunnarsson-Parayko isn't a half bad top 4 still...

As for the hit, I'm torn. If it was any other team I might brush it off, but man with the Wild's history it just irks me. They throw so many dirty hits, intentional or not. I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt, and they call us dirty. God I really hate them more than anyone aside from Chicago and maybe LA these days.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

My prediction: it will obviously hurt but won't be as bad as some people who acted like we'd have the worst defense in the league if we ever lost him. Bouwmeester-Shattenkirk, Gunnarsson-Parayko isn't a half bad top 4 still...

As for the hit, I'm torn. If it was any other team I might brush it off, but man with the Wild's history it just irks me. They throw so many dirty hits, intentional or not. I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt, and they call us dirty. God I really hate them more than anyone aside from Chicago and maybe LA these days.

I thought it was late, but not any later than hits the Blues were throwing as well. All night long, they were both throwing them. I thought Gunnarsson was going to drop his mitts. He got really peeved at one of their guys. They were really going after each other. With Petro, it was late and just caught him in an awkward position next to the boards.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Paraykos time to shine... when Shatty was hurt, Parayko was unreal offensively.... now Petro is gone and I have faith Parayko will step up!

 

[Robb_K]

I can never tell who's serious and who's not anymore.

But it's definitely a big loss. Pietrangelo eats up tough minutes against other top lines with J-Bo. His dropping from the lineup puts a lot of pressure on J-bo, and whoever replaces Pietrangelo. Shatty's offensive output is definitely boosted by getting to play more favorable matchups with Petro taking the hard defensive matches.

I would keep Shattenkirk on The "2nd Pairing" with Gunnarsson, but boost their minutes to near The 1st Pairing of Bouwmeester and Parayko. Id keep those 4 at near 22 mpg, and give Edmundson and Bortuzzo about 16. The forwards will have to play more and better defence. Good thing Elliott is hot right now. Will he tire soon? I hope not. We'll need Allen back ASAP.

 

[shpongle falls]

Well this f****** sucks. The one silver lining I see in this is at least Petro gets some time to rest before the playoffs, he's played A LOT of minutes so far this season. And also, it's only 3 weeks, it could've been 3 months.

I was hoping Parayko would get slightly more limited minutes down the final stretch of regular season games to keep him fresher for the playoffs, but then again both Parayko and Fabbri have showed no signs of slowing down so far, so that's a good sign.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Should have put Colt 55 out there on the next shift and put that measley gutless human Coyle through the boards.

 

[Meatball]

Hopefully it's not that bad, and we will get a fully rested Petro back just in time to put on a Conn Smythe worthy performance in the playoffs.

No joke.

 

[PiggySmalls]

The lose of AP really got me thinking about the articles Shatty did for The Player's Tribune. Where he talked about the toll on your body for playing more minutes then one is use to. As well about his insight on Petro's play.

Alex Pietrangelo
Petro excels at another thing that I don’t hear talked about a lot on TV: escapability. Let’s say there’s a scrum for a rebound in front of the net and there’s a bunch of sticks whacking at it. If there’s one guy in the world I’d pick to come out clean with the puck and make a breakout pass up the ice, it’s Petro. Is there a fancy advanced stat for that yet? If not, we need to make one. Wins From Scrums. His WFS percentage would be like 80%.

Elite Defensemen 101: Part One

Elite Defensemen 101: Part Two

 

[bleedblue1223]

The lose of AP really got me thinking about the articles Shatty did for The Player's Tribune. Where he talked about the toll on your body for playing more minutes then one is use to. As well about his insight on Petro's play.



Elite Defensemen 101: Part One

Elite Defensemen 101: Part Two

Exactly, it's why you need to do the eye-test with Petro. His stick-work and transition ability is among the elite of the elite. Unfortunately, there isn't a fancy stat for that stuff. It's all very subjective, and you can sort of track it with zone exits, which Petro is our best at, and among the best in the league.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

Exactly, it's why you need to do the eye-test with Petro. His stick-work and transition ability is among the elite of the elite. Unfortunately, there isn't a fancy stat for that stuff. It's all very subjective, and you can sort of track it with zone exits, which Petro is our best at, and among the best in the league.

As much as I harp on Petro, I agree with ALL of this. There is Petro, then everyone else. You just wish the grand scope of his talent would come full circle. He does have the talent, size, and tools to be top 5. Just outside the box. His decision making may get there as he loses some of his speed and takes fewer chances.

 

[TruBlu]

I saw a lot of talk of trading Petro on other threads, since he's not as offensive minded as Shatty. I think tonight's game shines a big light on Petro's play and how much he means to the team. Shatty and Parayko played an excellent game, but the blues had a lot of trouble moving the puck out of their zone the entire night.

 

[Debrincat93]

any chance Benoit gets called up?

 

[BluesTraveller]

I saw a lot of talk of trading Petro on other threads, since he's not as offensive minded as Shatty. I think tonight's game shines a big light on Petro's play and how much he means to the team. Shatty and Parayko played an excellent game, but the blues had a lot of trouble moving the puck out of their zone the entire night.

They have been having trouble doing anything offensive 5on5 for a while.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Granted it's only one game, but if last night's game is any indication we are in trouble. Petro is absolutely crucial to this team.

 

[BlueDream]

I'll disagree with that. I don't think last night's game was because of Petro, it was because the offense has been horribly inept for a long time - like shifting said. And the team overall has been flat for a while too. Even Petro struggled in some games against the Jets earlier this season.

Yeah his loss will be felt but it's an overreaction to say something like that IMO. I didn't think Shattenkirk looked bad at all, let's give it a bit more time.

 

[Ranksu]

I'll disagree with that. I don't think last night's game was because of Petro, it was because the offense has been horribly inept for a long time - like shifting said. And the team overall has been flat for a while too. Even Petro struggled in some games against the Jets earlier this season.

Yeah his loss will be felt but it's an overreaction to say something like that IMO. I didn't think Shattenkirk looked bad at all, let's give it a bit more time.

Bolded: I know Shattery is important PP specialist, but at d-zone Shattery was in trouble all the time. I don't like.

 

[Borderbluesfan]

I'll disagree with that. I don't think last night's game was because of Petro, it was because the offense has been horribly inept for a long time - like shifting said. And the team overall has been flat for a while too. Even Petro struggled in some games against the Jets earlier this season.

Yeah his loss will be felt but it's an overreaction to say something like that IMO. I didn't think Shattenkirk looked bad at all, let's give it a bit more time.

Watching last night's game, I don't think missing Petro had anything to do with the loss. Defense wasn't the problem, the inability to make plays in the offensive zone was the problem. We put the puck into the offensive zone, but couldn't sustain offensive attacks and get good scoring chances on a regular basis. We lost a lot of board battles in the offensive zone. We lost a lot of board battles in our defensive zone and didn't clear the zone very well, but a lot of our problems were from forwards that had the puck and tried to make pretty passes instead of clearing the zone.

Our forwards also tended to try to make one too many passes in the offensive zone instead of just shooting the puck when they were in good shooting positions. A reoccurring problem for our offense.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=871043&navid=DL|STL|home

Petro activated from IR. Nilsson also recalled.

 

[Ranksu]

^^^This might be the silver lining. More minutes and attention for Parayko in particular.



Posted this on the main board but figure it's worth a repost here:

I've always kept Coyle bit dirty, he fits well to Boston.

 

[BlueDream]

I've always kept Coyle bit dirty, he fits well to Boston.

You are going to get ripped for bumping this thread