Perspective II: do you like these guys?

[Pookie]

So... we are ALL going to cheer for this team in the playoffs.

Certainly offensively exciting. Great goaltending, when Andersen plays. Speed. Star players.

Without a doubt though, soft as the day after a laxative. No team unity. A hold out that reminds us of when Shanahan held out. Rigid coach. Suggestions of a rift between star player and coach to the point that some think the team is playing poorly to get him fired. GM handing out money like candy. GM philosophy of skill over grit.

This is OUR team. You and I will cheer loudly for every playoff game.

But privately. When it’s just you and your thoughts. Do you like these guys?

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[Gallagbi]

Nope. They're lazy and cowardly.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

It's an entertaining team and plays its own style.

When they start skating and making plays, it's a very exciting brand of hockey.

But yes, I do miss the early 00s teams with Tucker, Domi, Corson, and Yushkevich. Led to some incredible playoff hockey that was more in tune with Toronto's love for blue collar hockey.

 

[DavePoulin4PM]

This is an extremely unlikeable group of players. Entitled, lazy, not willing to pay the price. It’s very difficult to cheer for cowards like Nylander and Gardiner. It is difficult to like Shanny and Dubas, when they ooze arrogance. Is there a more arrogant front office in the league? Doubtful.

Very tough group to cheer for IMO.

 

[Menzinger]

I think 90% of these problems exist solely in the minds of Leafs fans, rather than anything going on inside the dressingroom

 

[Nineteen67]

This is an unlikeable group of players. I’ve seen fans justifiably wear paper bags on their heads, but this is first time in my life I’ve been embarrassed to wear my Leafs cap in public.

 

[DarkKnight]

I've enjoyed this season. I like winning seasons, as a Leafs fans I understand this is not a given.

 

[Nineteen67]

You really have no idea what goes on in a hockey locker room.. so don’t even try to pretend like you do. Do they have “locker room mode” in NHL video games?

If they knew that their stomachs would turn.

 

[Nineteen67]

So... we are ALL going to cheer for this team in the playoffs.

Certainly offensively exciting. Great goaltending, when Andersen plays. Speed. Star players.

Without a doubt though, soft as the day after a laxative. No team unity. A hold out that reminds us of when Shanahan held out. Rigid coach. Suggestions of a rift between star player and coach to the point that some think the team is playing poorly to get him fired. GM handing out money like candy. GM philosophy of skill over grit.

This is OUR team. You and I will cheer loudly for every playoff game.

But privately. When it’s just you and your thoughts. Do you like these guys?

I’m not sure I’ll even watch the Leafs Bruins series. It depends on what other games are on. Vegas and San Jose shapes up to be the best series.

 

[LeafGrief]

I love this team. I think we have great young players and there's nothing about them that makes me want to turn up my nose. They're not perfect and there's lots about them that need to improve for the future, but there are no "but"s when I say I really like these players.

The fanbase on the other hand...

 

[Walshy7]

I’m not sure I’ll even watch the Leafs Bruins series. It depends on what other games are on. Vegas and San Jose shapes up to be the best series.

Haha why are you in the leafs message board then? What a silly post, there is nothing that will stop me watching that series. Definition of a fair weather fan right here.

I’m sure you are just being hyperbolic though

 

[dubey]

Haha why are you in the leafs message board then? What a silly post, there is nothing that will stop me watching that series. Definition of a fair weather fan right here.

I’m sure you are just being hyperbolic though

It's a cry for attention and it typically works

 

[WilliamNylander]

Love the team but they are coached to play the wrong way. Skilled players being wasted big time.

 

[Nineteen67]

Haha why are you in the leafs message board then? What a silly post, there is nothing that will stop me watching that series. Definition of a fair weather fan right here.

I’m sure you are just being hyperbolic though

I’ve lived through pathetic teams but never one that lacks toughness and determination. Phil Kessel rolls his eyes at this group.

 

[mallory67]

All depends on the playoffs. We made it in easily, but we have to show some progression ... we have to win a playoff series or two. Everything is based on that now.

Can't get to negative on a team dealing with a lot injuries. But these guys have to show up vs. Boston.
If they don't show up, then changes have to come right?

 

[rumman]

Haha why are you in the leafs message board then? What a silly post, there is nothing that will stop me watching that series. Definition of a fair weather fan right here.

I’m sure you are just being hyperbolic though

personally (for the most part) I don't think Leaf fans are fair weathered, far from it. I have invested more time and heartache in this team than most. Far more than Shanahan; Babcock; Dubas; all the current players and numerous one's who've come and gone, nothing's changed in all that time. The Leafs suck for long periods, then once they get close to being a competent team it all goes sideways. I see nothing to indicate this current version won't result in the same fate. I blame Shanahan, he hired Dubas knowing full well his GM and coach would blend like oil and water.

 

[DavePoulin4PM]

personally (for the most part) I don't think Leaf fans are fair weathered, far from it. I have invested more time and heartache in this team than most. Far more than Shanahan; Babcock; Dubas; all the current players and numerous one's who've come and gone, nothing's changed in all that time. The Leafs suck for long periods, then once they get close to being a competent team it all goes sideways. I see nothing to indicate this current version won't result in the same fate. I blame Shanahan, he hired Dubas knowing full well his GM and coach would blend like oil and water.

At some point the franchise has to reward the fan base for being so loyal. You can’t expect fans to continue to blindly suppport a sub par product. This organization has been inept for so many years, they are lucky to even have fans.

It’s mind blowing when people complain about Leaf fans being negative.

 

[rumman]

At some point the franchise has to reward the fan base for being so loyal. You can’t expect fans to continue to blindly suppport a sub par product. This organization has been inept for so many years, they are lucky to even have fans.

It’s mind blowing when people complain about Leaf fans being negative.

and yet here we are...........

 

[TheKule]

3 years ago the Leafs were finishing up a 30th placed season.

You people are insane.

 

[Joey Hoser]

I've enjoyed this season. I like winning seasons, as a Leafs fans I understand this is not a given.

I too enjoy having a good team.

Seems we're the minority. The fanbase has gone mental.

 

[Gallagbi]

I too enjoy having a good team.

Seems we're the minority. The fanbase has gone mental.

Guess it depends on what you consider the alternative. I see more potential that I do production with this group.

Nobody goes 100% all the time (except Hyman), but the team as a whole has taken way too many nights off. Even if the last week to ten days isn't one of them.

 

[TheDoldrums]

At some point the franchise has to reward the fan base for being so loyal. You can’t expect fans to continue to blindly suppport a sub par product. This organization has been inept for so many years, they are lucky to even have fans.

It’s mind blowing when people complain about Leaf fans being negative.

Well you're calling a team that will make the playoffs for the third straight year with one of the best young cores in the league a "sub par product" so yeah, you do seem absurdly negative. Also don't seem to have much perspective about the situations around the league and how many would be ecstatic to have our problems.

 

[Walshy7]

I’ve lived through pathetic teams but never one that lacks toughness and determination. Phil Kessel rolls his eyes at this group.

Are you a goldfish? It’s funny when people say things like this kessel was/is the softest player in the league bar none. But to prove a point you need pretend he wasn’t I get it

 

[Pookie]

I too enjoy having a good team.

Seems we're the minority. The fanbase has gone mental.

They are good but is it a team?

Collection of individuals vs go into battle for each other.

The 2002 Leafs, with injuries to key players, were far less talented heading into the playoffs vs Ottawa.

Alyn McCauley was moved up from the 4th line. Marlies went into the line up and on the backs of McCauley, Jonas Hoglind and Gary Roberts they knocked out the Sens in 7 games.

That was a team you could like.

I’m not sure about this year’s version.

 

[Walshy7]

personally (for the most part) I don't think Leaf fans are fair weathered, far from it. I have invested more time and heartache in this team than most. Far more than Shanahan; Babcock; Dubas; all the current players and numerous one's who've come and gone, nothing's changed in all that time. The Leafs suck for long periods, then once they get close to being a competent team it all goes sideways. I see nothing to indicate this current version won't result in the same fate. I blame Shanahan, he hired Dubas knowing full well his GM and coach would blend like oil and water.

Right? I was responding msg to a fan questioning weather he watch the leafs in the playoffs or not, that is the very definition of a fair weather fan. If we beat Boston that same poster would be “all in” in the 2nd round and on