Post-Game Talk: Pens win vs Yotes: Carter - the hero we need

[Fordy]

rakell should have a short window to try to get his season on track for no reason other than we really need that to happen. if it doesn’t he should be on the third line

 

[SomeDude]

Zoho comes into the discussion.

Yea he’s sucked lately too but at least we’ve seen him be good this year.

 

[Nakawick]

It's too bad Carter is so damned old now because he's exactly what pp1 could use. If he were still capable of it I'd gladly swap him for Jake and let him just sit in front and tip in Karlsson/Malkin bombs all day.

Hell pp1 has been so bad (jake goal tonight not withstanding) that that still might be worth a try.

Carter is bad as hell at 5v5 but he's still got the ability to tip pucks in and be good in front of the net.

I think Carter is worth a shot on PP1. Let him take the draws and stand in front of the net for 45 seconds or so. Not like he will make it worse.

 

[wgknestrick]

So when is the "We beat ARI parade?"

I look at every win now as delaying the rebuild, prolonging Sully, and lessoning the future quality of players. I'd also like to see old man Crosby/Malkin play with a rookie superstar right before retiring like Lemieux + Crosby.

4 wins out of past 13 games.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Yea he’s sucked lately too but at least we’ve seen him be good this year.

But for his size, he's no better than the other meh options. Zohorna is okay as the 3rd wheel if you got nothing better. Plus, when the league is just starting up guys will get better results, but once everyone is galvanized the true pawns shine through.

 

[tom_servo]

So when is the "We beat ARI parade?"

I look at every win now as delaying the rebuild, prolonging Sully, and lessoning the future quality of players. I'd also like to see old man Crosby/Malkin play with a rookie superstar right before retiring like Lemieux + Crosby.

4 wins out of past 13 games.

Delaying firing the coach? Ok, I get that. Delaying the rebuild? It's already been delayed. Best to forget about it for a couple years.

 

[Darren McCord]

Incorrect. The vast majority of his production in his first stint in Pittsburgh came when he was with Crosby, Hornqvist, Rust or Guentzel.

Even in Washington, his most common teammates were Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Eller, Backstrom, Strome, Wilson and Oshie.

Yes top 6 center Lars Eller. In 21-22 he had 43 pts. Look at the spread of where he go points. Eller number 2. Hathaway number 4. Dowd number 6.

Sheary is literally the epitome of a guy you can move up and down while still getting production.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

It's astonishing how rarely they try this kind of pass from behind the net on the PP. It's like they think it's too obvious to work, even though most of their other moves tend to be just as obvious but far less likely to lead to a goal.

To me the goal wasn't because it came from "behind the net". It was the fact that Jake reversed his course abruptly and flashed open. That is the heart of any PP- to jump in the open lanes before they get closed down.

And why do shooting/passing lanes get closed down so easily against the Pens? Because they stay stationary. It's the easiest PP to defend on earth. Give me 5 Danton Heinens and I'll outscore this collection of stationary All Stars all damn season long

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think Puustinen is fine 5v5. Put him with Sid, they go all offense anyways. Rakell can play line 3.

Jake - Sid - Puustinen
Smith - Geno - Rust
Doc - Eller - Rakell
Neio - Accari - Zohorna

I don't see what Puustinen offers on that 1st line at all. They don't need a pure finisher on that line.

The 1st line should be Guentzel-Crosby-Rakell and the 2nd line should be Smith-Malkin-Rust. Have Puustinen on L3 or L4 but shelter him at 5v5.

 

[Darren McCord]

I don't see what Puustinen offers on that 1st line at all. They don't need a pure finisher on that line.

The 1st line should be Guentzel-Crosby-Rakell and the 2nd line should be Smith-Malkin-Rust. Have Puustinen on L3 or L4 but shelter him at 5v5.

Puustinen isn’t a pure finisher. He’s a smart player tho and they looked fine in preseason together. I think rakell would give a little more besides offense on the third line

 

[Pancakes]

I think Carter is worth a shot on PP1. Let him take the draws and stand in front of the net for 45 seconds or so. Not like he will make it worse.

I think the big problem with Carter would be he'd be absolutely awful at helping the team get entries lol.

But PP1 is already terrible at that so hard to imagine Carter making it a whole lot worse

 

[pistolpete11]

Puusy's got a long way to go to prove that this is anything more than just the call up adrenaline bump that often happens. But IF he were to stick, I'd be curious about this:

First, someone mentioned Smith being a lot better off the rush. That seems to make sense to me, so what about bumping him to L3? In theory, he'll have a lot more opportunities for rush chances getting 70% D-zone starts as opposed to vice-versa. Plus it gives L3 a legit offensive presence and he's good enough defensively he's not going to get chewed up.

That means Rakell would probably have to bump to LW in the top 6. Sid and Jake are inseparable for whatever reason, so he's with Malkin.

Then, to get the most balance possible in the top 6, put Puusy with Sid-Jake and Rust with Rakell-Malkin.


Guentzel - Crosby - Puusy
Rakell - Malkin - Rust
Smith - Eller - Z
DOC - Acciari - Nieto/Carter/Hino

 

[Factorial]

Hextall would’ve re-signed Carter to another extension after tonight.

5x5

 

[BusinessGoose]

Nice win

Crazy game

Not very confidence inspiring though

 

[Ugene Magic]

Who's got todays GDT?

 

[Ugene Magic]

Who's got todays GDT?

Bump.....

 

[Invalid cuz QoC]

No GDT today according to rule 21.2
All posters must suffer in silence and bury their gripes and anger deep down inside for one game a season.

 

[Ugene Magic]

No GDT today according to rule 21.2
All posters must suffer in silence and bury their gripes and anger deep down inside for one game a season.

The Bundy way...

 

[tom_servo]

The Bundy way...

Ah thanks, now I've gone on a best-of MWC dive.

 

[Nakawick]

I think the big problem with Carter would be he'd be absolutely awful at helping the team get entries lol.

But PP1 is already terrible at that so hard to imagine Carter making it a whole lot worse

He could benefit by winning the draws in the offensive zone and just skating out to the blueline if the puck goes out of the zone.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Ah thanks, now I've gone on a best-of MWC dive.

How about GDT Rescue?

 

[Andy99]

Someone make a GDT and highlight this stat from Bob lol!

 

[canadianguy77]

Boys look liked they used up their legs last night. Whole team looks half asleep.