Post-Game Talk: Pens vs Isles: Its over

[CascadiaPenguin]

Can't wait to see your reaction when Jarry is bought out by us or someone else in a year or two.

You can't be expecting something new, different or out of character, right?

 

[HandshakeLine]

I never have to watch Jeff Carter play hockey for the Penguins again. I'm thrilled.

It’s the little things that count.

 

[Zbynek]

lol, way to prove my point. Sully played his boy then MAF went on to bring an expansion team to the SCF and win a Vezina while MM blew shit and literally didn't even play in the NHL this year.

I love the part where you conveniently left out that MM carried us to 2 Cup wins.

Your takes on Tristan Jarry are insano buddy

 

[Zbynek]

Jarry wasn't normally like this but he did do that this year. Hockey Reference defines a "really bad start" as a start below an .850 save%, Jarry had 5 in 47 starts last year but had 12 in 48 starts this year.

Jarry was really weird this year. Of his 48 starts, 29 of them were quality starts and 12 of them were really bad starts. 60% of his starts were good or better games, 25% of his starts were horrendous games and the other 15% would be in the mediocre/poor range.

"Jarry was really weird this year" yet.. in the Jarry re-signed 5 years thread, 80% of the people on here acknowledged this is exactly what would happen

 

[K Fleur]

Crosby with an even better season than last year. Malkin with a healthy and almost 70 point season at 37. EK neutered after a great start. What a waste by this organization.

 

[TimmyD]

It says that Sully played his favorite. TJ is the better goalie and always will be. It'll be fun to see him have a great season on a new team next year and Ned f***ing blow for the Pens.

Christ, the love this fanbase will give to any mediocre guy who isn't the starter is f***ing amazing.

You’re talking about people not showing love to the starter? You’re the same person who legit bitched and moaned about Matt Murray everytime the puck hit the back of the net when he was the starter instead of Fleury lol. Jarry will have a terrific first half, like he always does and then he will start to suck in the second half, like he always does. He’s not a good goalie

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

You’re talking about people not showing love to the starter? You’re the same person who legit bitched and moaned about Matt Murray everytime the puck hit the back of the net when he was the starter instead of Fleury lol. Jarry will have a terrific first half, like he always does and then he will start to suck in the second half, like he always does. He’s not a good goalie

It's just odd a goalie can be great only 1/2 the games. Maybe he just can't handle the workload and starts showing it the 2nd 1/2 of the season.

If he were making around 3M, I'd consider keeping him with on a true 1A/1B tandem.

If we can't trade him in the off-season, trade him before he turns into a pumpkin mid-season .

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I didn't even watch the Isles games, one of the few games I missed. We get Isles/Rangers/Devils black-outs here, and I couldn't be bothered working around it to catch the game.

It's going to be a loooong spring/summer .
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[Gold Diamond]

Has the coaching staff been fired yet?

 

[BusinessGoose]

Watch, now that we sat jarry, he will not even start the season good

He'll just be bad the whole time now

 

[Zbynek]

It's just odd a goalie can be great only 1/2 the games. Maybe he just can't handle the workload and starts showing it the 2nd 1/2 of the season.

If he were making around 3M, I'd consider keeping him with on a true 1A/1B tandem.

If we can't trade him in the off-season, trade him before he turns into a pumpkin mid-season .

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I didn't even watch the Isles games, one of the few games I missed. We get Isles/Rangers/Devils black-outs here, and I couldn't be bothered working around it to catch the game.

It's going to be a loooong spring/summer .
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It's not odd or perplexing, he's a mental midget which is the worst thing you can be at the goalie position. Shades of MAF.

 

[Khelandros]

They did it guys. They freakin did it. 30th in the league on the PP. I knew they could get there. Todd Reirdon is a genius.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

They did it guys. They freakin did it. 30th in the league on the PP. I knew they could get there. Todd Reirdon is a genius.
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Life time extension for all of the money incoming.

 

[The Old Master]

Not having a starting goaltender this year didn't help. They spent $5 million a season on a guy we all knew was a big mistake. The dude is fragile and mentally soft. We've been dealing with that at the goaltender position since the early 2000s. Shame.

our goaltenders may not be the best but until we start playing defense there is no reason to think any change will last more than a few games.

 

[The Old Master]

Can you even afford to see a live hockey game Toronto?

the junior team is nice

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

It's not odd or perplexing, he's a mental midget which is the worst thing you can be at the goalie position. Shades of MAF.

MAF used to fall apart in the playoffs. That's a gated event, with stress/pressure going up.

What mental issue causes Jarry to split the 1/2 and last 1/2 of the season? I mean...pressure doesn't really go up.

I'm really believing it's workload. He's probably a goalie that can only play 40 games a season.

They did it guys. They freakin did it. 30th in the league on the PP. I knew they could get there. Todd Reirdon is a genius.
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Yeah...couldn't have gotten that extra point over Philly without it! Great job everyone!

 

[Icarium]

The Flyers having a PP efficiency that is 3 percentage points worse than even ours is mighty impressive, I have to say. Maybe they can hire Reirden and actually improve it a bit.

 

[Gold Diamond]

MAF used to fall apart in the playoffs. That's a gated event, with stress/pressure going up.

What mental issue causes Jarry to split the 1/2 and last 1/2 of the season? I mean...pressure doesn't really go up.

I'm really believing it's workload. He's probably a goalie that can only play 40 games a season.


Yeah...couldn't have gotten that extra point over Philly without it! Great job everyone!

Which means TJ is just a very good backup. He can play great in short stretches, maybe half a season, making him a 1B.

Not good enough to be a teams full-time starter in net.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Has the coaching staff been fired yet?

Yes.

But then re-hired a minute later with 5 year extensions worked out.

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

Which means TJ is just a very good backup. He can play great in short stretches, maybe half a season, making him a 1B.

Not good enough to be a teams full-time starter in net.

That's what I said 2 posts ago :
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It's just odd a goalie can be great only 1/2 the games. Maybe he just can't handle the workload and starts showing it the 2nd 1/2 of the season.

If he were making around 3M, I'd consider keeping him with on a true 1A/1B tandem.

If we can't trade him in the off-season, trade him before he turns into a pumpkin mid-season .
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A lot of moving parts....
If we don't need the Jarry cap space (say $2M over another goalie), then I'd be fine going in with a 1A/1B duo with Ned/Jarry, as long as they both understand that Jarry isn't the starter.

What I would not want to do is move Jarry as a cap dump (wasting assets), unless of course, we need the $2M for a bigger move.

We just got back $3M+ from Carter, so that's something! I'd prioritize getting rid of Neito/Acciari/Graves over Jarry.

A lot of this comes down to what the market has to offer.

 

[Extra Texture]

I will say, the emotional, "shut out the lights, its time to go home" tone from last night's game about Carter was something my mind grafted on to the vast majority of players out there.

Like I dont want to sound like a debbie downer, but in my mind, the futility of going out there in a meaningless dead rubber game, just felt like it was symbolic for the whole core. Like, what we saw with Carter, we're on the cusp of, certainly for the core three. A bunch of "vibes" games where the result isnt important.

Mentally, I have come to accept this fact long ago. The ride would stop spinning one day, and we'd just be sitting there and get stepped on by the rest of the league. Last night, though, brought it into focus for me. Just left me with a melancholic feeling, like the end is already here for some of these franchise heroes. Like, as if our best shot to do something, anything of note, just evaporated this year. It was sad. And I am pretty thankful that there wont be another Penguin game for months.

 

[Hazed Yoshi]

Mentally, I have come to accept this fact long ago. The ride would stop spinning one day, and we'd just be sitting there and get stepped on by the rest of the league. Last night, though, brought it into focus for me. Just left me with a melancholic feeling, like the end is already here for some of these franchise heroes. Like, as if our best shot to do something, anything of note, just evaporated this year. It was sad. And I am pretty thankful that there wont be another Penguin game for months.

Feel the same way.