Salary Cap: Pens Salary Cap Thread: Dr Strangedubas "Tankination" is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face."

[Gurglesons]

Ullmark, Markstrom, even Ned are better options than Jarry. I’d say Binnington is too, because he has less term and a Cup.

Think the Pens will be lucky to move Jarry without having to pay up. And b/c of that there’s a chance he’s here next year.

(I agree on protecting young goalies and would strip this team down and run Jarry/vet FA + vet FA and try to be terrible next season. Let Blomqvist cook another year)

We can probably acquire a bad contract for Jarry.

Justin Holl comes to mind.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Do they re-sign Carter on locker room clean out day or make him sweat until July?

y u do dis fren? I cry errey tyme

 

[wheelz87]

Fleury back with Minnesota. There’s goes my plan to ship out Jarry and get him on the cheap

 

[SomeDude]

y u do dis fren? I cry errey tyme

Because to think Mike Sullivan isn’t going to want him back and get what he wants is just living in denial. He deployed him like a key shut down player. Sully legit thinks he’s good.

 

[wgknestrick]

PIT needs Jarry for tanking. Why trade?

 

[Nakawick]

If they manage to trade Jarry - and I think they could - who do they run with in net next year? Do they bring back Ned as the starter and see what they have in Blomqvist as the backup, or do they try and get another middling veteran to run in a tandem with Ned?

Well, we would have been a perfect landing spot for MAF if he wanted to retire a Penguin. I would be extremely cautious about crowning Ned our starter when he is playing for a contract. I don’t see him as being better than Jarry.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Karlsonn trade was stupid. Should have kept our trash and first round pick and we would be in a much better position. I was never big on that trade.... especially since I knew that Sully would nuke EK's skillset.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

If they manage to trade Jarry - and I think they could - who do they run with in net next year? Do they bring back Ned as the starter and see what they have in Blomqvist as the backup, or do they try and get another middling veteran to run in a tandem with Ned?

Go with Ned and another cheap veteran.

 

[orby]

Fleury had an .895 save percentage this year. I have fond memories of his time here, but he's a replacement level backup goalie at this point. Minnesota can keep him.

 

[The Old Master]

Ullmark, Markstrom, even Ned are better options than Jarry. I’d say Binnington is too, because he has less term and a Cup.

Think the Pens will be lucky to move Jarry without having to pay up. And b/c of that there’s a chance he’s here next year.

(I agree on protecting young goalies and would strip this team down and run Jarry/vet FA + vet FA and try to be terrible next season. Let Blomqvist cook another year)

i think moving him is a good idea, but there is no reason to give him away.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think people are going WAY overboard with Nedjelkovic. He finished this year with a .904 save% and his super hot run down the stretch had him at a .903 save%. He just happened to be playing games for the Penguins while they were scoring a ton of goals.

Anyone who gives him a huge deal would be a downright moron. He's a 1B goalie who had a decent (not good, just decent) year this year. I'd have no issues with re-signing him, but that "re-signing" would be like 2 years at $3 million a year.

 

[The Old Master]

PIT needs Jarry for tanking. Why trade?

lots of other cheaper goalies can do that. but i'm fine keeping him if some other team wants us to give him away.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I don't want to dump Jarry and go with Ned cuz I think it's gonna fix things. I just f***ing hate Jarry as a goalie.

Same line of thinking as with Sully; I'm not advocating to fire these losers into the sun to fix things, I'm doing it because I think they suck at their jobs and I hate them being Penguins.

 

[The Old Master]

I think people are going WAY overboard with Nedjelkovic. He finished this year with a .904 save% and his super hot run down the stretch had him at a .903 save%. He just happened to be playing games for the Penguins while they were scoring a ton of goals.

Anyone who gives him a huge deal would be a downright moron. He's a 1B goalie who had a decent (not good, just decent) year this year. I'd have no issues with re-signing him, but that "re-signing" would be like 2 years at $3 million a year.

it would simply be a tank move. imo

 

[SEALBound]

Ullmark, Markstrom, even Ned are better options than Jarry. I’d say Binnington is too, because he has less term and a Cup.

Think the Pens will be lucky to move Jarry without having to pay up. And b/c of that there’s a chance he’s here next year.

(I agree on protecting young goalies and would strip this team down and run Jarry/vet FA + vet FA and try to be terrible next season. Let Blomqvist cook another year)

I don't disagree that they would be better options but they have to be available to begin with. And there is likely more than one team looking for an upgrade - NJD, LA, Edmonton, possibly Philly, who knows with the Sens, and even a darkhorse like Buffalo.

I don't know if they have to pay. Likely certainly not something like Jarry+2nd for a cond 7th / FC. I think you're looking at a 3rd or a b-level asset if it's a straight trade out. You might get more back if you have to take on a bad contract. Say it's Edmonton, I would ask for Tullio and Petrov or another one of their young forward prospects if we have to take Campbell back.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

I think people are going WAY overboard with Nedjelkovic. He finished this year with a .904 save% and his super hot run down the stretch had him at a .903 save%. He just happened to be playing games for the Penguins while they were scoring a ton of goals.

Anyone who gives him a huge deal would be a downright moron. He's a 1B goalie who had a decent (not good, just decent) year this year. I'd have no issues with re-signing him, but that "re-signing" would be like 2 years at $3 million a year.

He's just this year's Jeff Zatkoff.

TJ will go to a properly coached team and turn into a stud just like MAF after he got away form the Pens.

 

[SEALBound]

I think people are going WAY overboard with Nedjelkovic. He finished this year with a .904 save% and his super hot run down the stretch had him at a .903 save%. He just happened to be playing games for the Penguins while they were scoring a ton of goals.

Anyone who gives him a huge deal would be a downright moron. He's a 1B goalie who had a decent (not good, just decent) year this year. I'd have no issues with re-signing him, but that "re-signing" would be like 2 years at $3 million a year.

In my armchair gm's on CF, this is what I had him at. Seems reasonable for both sides given that he's proven to be a good backup but shakey as a starter. You only do this knowing you have Blomqvist in the AHL and it also means you likely nab another guy like Lankinen, Martin Jones, Reimer, etc to be a depth goalie.

 

[Gurglesons]

He's just this year's Jeff Zatkoff.

TJ will go to a properly coached team and turn into a stud just like MAF after he got away form the Pens.

MAF turned into a stud?

Weird.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

I love that Sullivan turned on the guy for whom he vouched which is why Dubas gave him a five year deal.

If this was a serious franchise that would be a question I'd ask the head coach in his exit interview.

 

[Gurglesons]

I love that Sullivan turned on the guy for whom he vouched which is why Dubas gave him a five year deal.

If this was a serious franchise that would be a question I'd ask the head coach in his exit interview.

Turning on Jarry is the best move Mike Sullivan has made as a coach since 19-20.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I still don't think the Penguins situation with Jarry is as dire as most fans think. Not in that "they should keep him", I think the relationship is broken after Jarry was benched to end the year, but I think there would be teams interested in Jarry just because goaltending around the league sucks right now.

In the last 5 years, Jarry is 13th in wins and 12th in save% (among goalies with 150 or more games played), while he's the 12th highest paid goalie in hockey. He didn't even have that bad of a year this year, Jarry will finish with a -0.8 GSAA and a +2.6 GSAx. He was a league average goalie this year. The biggest issue Jarry had this year is that he had a lot of really bad games, he finished this year with 12 really bad starts (starts with a save% below .850) compared to only 5 last year.

I'm not saying this to say that they should keep Jarry. I just think that even with Jarry's flaws, so many other teams have worse goaltending situations that I really struggle to see how no one would be interested in Jarry. I think Detroit is a team that makes a ton of sense to go after Jarry.

 

[Gurglesons]

I still don't think the Penguins situation with Jarry is as dire as most fans think. Not in that "they should keep him", I think the relationship is broken after Jarry was benched to end the year, but I think there would be teams interested in Jarry just because goaltending around the league sucks right now.

In the last 5 years, Jarry is 13th in wins and 12th in save% (among goalies with 150 or more games played), while he's the 12th highest paid goalie in hockey. He didn't even have that bad of a year this year, Jarry will finish with a -0.8 GSAA and a +2.6 GSAx. He was a league average goalie this year. The biggest issue Jarry had this year is that he had a lot of really bad games, he finished this year with 12 really bad starts (starts with a save% below .850) compared to only 5 last year.

I'm not saying this to say that they should keep Jarry. I just think that even with Jarry's flaws, so many other teams have worse goaltending situations that I really struggle to see how no one would be interested in Jarry. I think Detroit is a team that makes a ton of sense to go after Jarry.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Yeah, it’s probably best for both if the team and Jarry move on, if it’s nothing more than to help clear the air in the locker room.

 

[Empoleon8771]

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This is Alex Lyons, who was Detroit's starting goalie down the stretch. Lyons went 8-12-3 in his last 23 starts with an .887 save%, Detroit likely makes the playoffs with better goaltending over that stretch.

Jarry obviously has his issues, I just think fans are not paying attention to how many other teams also have goalies with massive issues.

 

[Gurglesons]

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This is Alex Lyons, who was Detroit's starting goalie down the stretch. Lyons went 8-12-3 in his last 23 starts with an .887 save%, Detroit likely makes the playoffs with better goaltending over that stretch.

Jarry obviously has his issues, I just think fans are not paying attention to how many other teams also have goalies with massive issues.

Alex Lyon is making 900k.

Also Alex Lyon had a great year end run last year too.