Rumor: Penguins VERY VERY interested in Hamhuis (Warning Post #273)

[PrinceOfPucks]

Kevin Allen of USA today says that Dan Hamhuis will attract a lot of interest come trade deadline. Link is Pratt and Bro Jake on Tsn 1040 at 8:10 am this morning if anybody can find a link.

He also said a team that he has been constantly hearing that has shown a ton of interest and will be a making a huge push for Hamhuis is the Pittsburgh Penguins.

What would we want for Hammer ? I would love it if we moved him , he gets his cup, then he 're signs w. The Nux for a 3 yr contract and rides off in the sunset as a Canucks

Pittsburgh Assets.

1st rnd pick 2017
Olli Matta- Dman
Beau Bennet- LW
Derrick Pouliot - Dman
Daniel Sprong -RW
Brian Dumoulin - Dman
Scott Wilson - RW

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[Gstank]

There pick is only lottery protected so thats off the table, but I think they have Torontos 2nd this year

I would think something like Dumoulin and a 2nd/3rd round pck

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Kevin Allen of USA today says that Dan Hamhuis will attract a lot of interest come trade deadline. Link is Pratt and Bro Jake on Tsn 1040 at 8:10 am this morning if anybody can find a link.

He also said a team that he has been constantly hearing that has shown a ton of interest and will be a making a huge push for Hamhuis is the Pittsburgh Penguins.

What would we want for Hammer ? I would love it if we moved him , he gets his cup, then he 're signs w. The Nux for a 3 yr contract and rides off in the sunset as a Canucks

Pittsburgh Assets.

1st rnd pick 2016 ( currently 15th overall )
Olli Matta- Dman
Beau Bennet- LW
Derrick Pouliot - Dman
Daniel Sprong -RW
Brian Dumoulin - Dman
Scott Wilson - RW

That's awesome! I'd like one of the following:

Pouliot
1st 2017(Their 2016 1st is only lottery protected)
Dumoulin

Plus more depending on the asset.

NO way they move Olli Maata. And don't want Bennett(injured way too often), Sprong, or Wilson.

 

[Gstank]

There pick is only lottery protected so thats off the table, but I think they have Torontos 2nd this year

I would think something like Dumoulin and a 2nd/3rd round pck

Would also need a cap dump since Pittsburgh is at the Cap

 

[ATypicalCanadian]

Kevin Allen of USA today says that Dan Hamhuis will attract a lot of interest come trade deadline. Link is Pratt and Bro Jake on Tsn 1040 at 8:10 am this morning if anybody can find a link.

He also said a team that he has been constantly hearing that has shown a ton of interest and will be a making a huge push for Hamhuis is the Pittsburgh Penguins.

What would we want for Hammer ? I would love it if we moved him , he gets his cup, then he 're signs w. The Nux for a 3 yr contract and rides off in the sunset as a Canucks

Pittsburgh Assets.

1st rnd pick 2016 ( currently 15th overall )
Olli Matta- Dman
Beau Bennet- LW
Derrick Pouliot - Dman
Daniel Sprong -RW
Brian Dumoulin - Dman
Scott Wilson - RW

I don't see Pittsburgh giving up Pouliot. IF Benning could get The 1st let alone Pouliot I'd be happy. It's been speculated here that Washington could give Hamhuis a go since there's the Trotz connection.

Edit: I see the first is unavailable

 

[fancouver]

If you recall the summer of 2010, UFA Hamhuis was traded to Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, but couldn't get a deal done because he had his mind set on Vancouver. This seems like one of those moves the Penguins management really likes Hamhuis as a player, because his play is definitely nowhere close to what it was 5 years ago when he considered a top 2 D

Olli Matta seems like a huge price for them to pay, but is who we really need.

But any of the listed defenceman and a 2nd round pick would be a good deal for the Canucks.

 

[Nuckles]

The most realistic trade I could see happening is Pittsburgh trading their 2nd and Anaheim's 2nd (or a 2nd+Brian Dumoulin) for Hamhuis. It's not terrible, but I'd still hope to get a late 1st from someone.

Their 1st this year goes to Toronto assuming they make the playoffs, otherwise I doubt they trade a lottery pick for an upcoming UFA like Hamhuis. Bennett holds very little value these days. And I really can't see them moving Pouliot or Sprong for an upcoming UFA.

 

[Gstank]

If you recall the summer of 2010, UFA Hamhuis was traded to Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, but couldn't get a deal done because he had his mind set on Vancouver. This seems like one of those moves the Penguins management really likes Hamhuis as a player, because his play is definitely nowhere close to what it was 5 years ago when he considered a top 2 D

Olli Matta seems like a huge price for them to pay, but is who we really need.

But any of the listed defenceman and a 2nd round pick would be a good deal for the Canucks.

Shinkaruk Hamhuis and a pick?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Shinkaruk Hamhuis and a pick?

Not even close.

Try Horvat+

 

[Win One Before I Die]

Guys... Hamhuis isn't going to fetch more than a single 2nd round pick and maybe a lower end prospect.

 

[deckercky]

Guys... Hamhuis isn't going to fetch more than a single 2nd round pick and maybe a lower end prospect.

Far worse defencemen have fetched far more than that at the trade deadline. Anything less than a 1st round pick would be disappointing - he's having a bad season, but is a recently top pairing defenceman with a good playoff resume.

 

[TruGr1t]

Well that's good to hear. Maybe if some GMs really value Hammer and Benning is tentative to move him we'll get some juicy offers.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Guys... Hamhuis isn't going to fetch more than a single 2nd round pick and maybe a lower end prospect.

I disagree, I think we are undervaluing Hamuis because we are tired of this core. Also the cost of good veteran defenseman is crazy

 

[Hit the post]

Also the cost of good veteran defenseman is crazy

Except to Benning.

 

[Cquant]

2nd(Ana) + 2nd(Pits)
2nd + Dumoulin
1st 2017
Pouliot

I wouldn't mind doing something along the lines of Hamhuis + Higgins with salary retained as needed for Plotnikov and Pouliot.
Plotnikov is a free agent this summer, Higgins > Plotnikov. This gives them both a chance at the cup but most importantly, gives us Pouliot!

 

[PrinceOfPucks]

We are extremely undervaluing him.

He will get us a 1st rnd pick.

For instance Washington. Do they really care about pick 26th to 30th or do they want a bigger chance to win the cup. ?

Hamhuis is going to be coveted. Dmen at deadline are always are !

He will get a prospect and late 1st. Quote me on it.

 

[Ho Borvat]

The most realistic trade I could see happening is Pittsburgh trading their 2nd and Anaheim's 2nd (or a 2nd+Brian Dumoulin) for Hamhuis. It's not terrible, but I'd still hope to get a late 1st from someone.

Their 1st this year goes to Toronto assuming they make the playoffs, otherwise I doubt they trade a lottery pick for an upcoming UFA like Hamhuis. Bennett holds very little value these days. And I really can't see them moving Pouliot or Sprong for an upcoming UFA.

I think the trade I would want is both those 2nd round picks.

Maata/Pouliot/Sprong are not going to be made available for a rental. However a couple of 2nd rounders for Hamhuis would be what I would go after (Maybe a 3rd conditional pick thrown in if Hamhuis re-signs)

 

[Catamarca Livin]

Except to Benning.

Garrison had term and Benning needed to make some changes after terrible year. Hamhuis is a different situation. If Benning makes deadline trades it would show they have the right focus. If they eat Hamhuis and Vrbata's last year with no changes then I would join the haters. If they can get more than a second round pick they need to pull the trigger.

 

[JuniorNelson]

If true, Canucks would be lucky. Any second round pick is a solid return, IMO. Anything above that is bonus.

 

[Ho Borvat]

That's awesome! I'd like one of the following:

Pouliot
1st 2017(Their 2016 1st is only lottery protected)
Dumoulin

They're not moving Pouliot. That'd be like asking us to move McCann/Virtanen for a rental.

Shinkaruk Hamhuis and a pick?

Think Tanev + Horvat. Pens are that high on Maata (and for good reason)

2nd(Ana) + 2nd(Pits)
2nd + Dumoulin
1st 2017
Pouliot
/QUOTE]

Again, I just don't see any situation where Pouliot is moved. The only prospect we have thats better is Horvat, so imagine someone asking us to trade McCann/Virtanen for a rental.

 

[PrinceOfPucks]

They're not moving Pouliot. That'd be like asking us to move McCann/Virtanen for a rental.



Think Tanev + Horvat. Pens are that high on Maata (and for good reason)

2nd(Ana) + 2nd(Pits)
2nd + Dumoulin
1st 2017
Pouliot
/QUOTE]

Again, I just don't see any situation where Pouliot is moved. The only prospect we have thats better is Horvat, so imagine someone asking us to trade McCann/Virtanen for a rental.

If we had 2 generational talents in the prime of their careers I have no problem moving prospects like Virtanen McCann to try and win the cup. I don't think then Pens are interested I'm wasting another year of Malkin and Crosbys prime years.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Pouliot or bust basically.

Last year Sekera was dealt for a 1st and a B prospect. Not sure why people think we would only get a 2nd for Hamhuis.

Pittsburgh doesn't have their 1st in this year's draft, so I would be looking at an equivalent level prospect. Brian Dumoulin is not at that level (not sure what is up with the big love-in for him). A 24 year old bottom pairing guy isn't the type of return I want for Hamhuis.

I'd do Hamhuis for Pouliot straight up. Make it simple.

 

[Ho Borvat]

If we had 2 generational talents in the prime of their careers I have no problem moving prospects like Virtanen McCann to try and win the cup. I don't think then Pens are interested I'm wasting another year of Malkin and Crosbys prime years.

Pouliot or bust basically.

I'd do Hamhuis for Pouliot straight up. Make it simple.

Pouliot or bust basically.

I agree that he should go for more than a 2nd, but I really doubt Hamhuis can bring in Pouliot.

Think of it this way, if Pouliot wasn't made available in a Kessel trade I really doubt he would be made available in a Hamhuis trade. Im a big Pouliot fan, but Pens fans view him in the same regard we view Horvat.

 

[Alan Jackson]

How many rentals have garnered 1st round picks the past few seasons?

It feels like that doesn't happen much anymore.

 

[Hardyvan123]

If you recall the summer of 2010, UFA Hamhuis was traded to Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, but couldn't get a deal done because he had his mind set on Vancouver. This seems like one of those moves the Penguins management really likes Hamhuis as a player, because his play is definitely nowhere close to what it was 5 years ago when he considered a top 2 D

Olli Matta seems like a huge price for them to pay, but is who we really need.

But any of the listed defenceman and a 2nd round pick would be a good deal for the Canucks.

this is the reality of it but I'm not sure if they would get a guy like Brian Dumoulin and a 2nd rounder it might be one or the other.

Let's face it Hamius is a rental and his best days are behind him.