Salary Cap: Penguins 2014 -15 Roster Building Discussion IV (Contract/Free Agent Chart in Post 1)

[Frederick Stanley]

Part IV:

This offseason needs to begin the complete destruction and rebuild that the 2 stooges put into motion over 4 years ago. Obviously you can't rely on FA alone to rebuild a team and there are a handful of guys that we all agree should be traded, for anything really. However, we know who the 2014 FA crop will be and there are some intriguing names out there, that could help in key areas we are lacking.

The first order of business, would be to obviously fire Bylsma (his entire staff) and Shero. That should happen the moment we're eliminated, which i pray is this round. Everything beyond that is pointless until they are gone, which we all pray happens.

http://capgeek.com/free-agents/

There are the 2014 FA's. If the cap does increase into the 70-71M range, we would be sitting in the 15M range in terms of space available. That is without signing and RFA's/UFA's from our own team.

I want to break it down into groups.

Group 1:
Players that NEED TO WALK (IE. don't even offer them the time of day).

1. Glass
2. Engo
3. Kobasew
4. Orpik
5. Pyatt
6. Vokoun

Most of those guys are a major reason for the **** we're in. They are easily replaceable by guys already in the system or relatively cheap FA signings from other teams. Didn't include AHL level FA's.

Group 2:
Players that NEED TO RE-SIGN (IE. proved their worth and need to be brought back)

1. Niskanen
2. Vitale
3. Despres (RFA, possibly trade bait)
4. Gibbons (RFA)
5. Megna (RFA)

Nisky has blossomed into a legit #3 and while his price tag will jump north of 4M per, i think given his age and skill set, is worth it at 4.5M per, give or take a little. Vitale is the perfect 4th liner. Every team should have a guy like him. He'll be cheap. Couple of RFA's that obviously need to be kept.

Group 3:
Players that COULD BE KEPT (for the right price, length of term)

1. Sutter (RFA)
2. Goc
3. Jokinen
4. Stemp

Sutter may or may not be worth it, depending on what the trade market is like and whether or not we could lure a Bolland type in FA. Goc, Joki and Stemp could all be pieces but i'm not paying them more then they make now and they wouldn't be first choices.

Now we can look at FA's from other teams that would make sense, depending on what we do with our own players.

Forwards:

1. Bolland
2. Kulemin
3. Winnik

I like Bolland a lot as a #3C. Winnik would be a wonderful fit as a 3/4. Big body, can move people and chip in offensively.

Defenseman:

There really aren't any guys that pop out in the FA class, and quite frankly, if we bring back Nisky and use the plethora of depth we have within the system, we really don't need to dip into the FA pool.

Goaltenders:

1. Halak
2. Brian Elliott

Halak is my sleeper signing for this offseason. He's always been pretty good and flashed elite skills, namely against us a few years back in the postseason. He put up very good numbers this year and at 28 isn't as old as a guy like Miller and won't command near that much cash. IF we can get Fleury out of the mix, he's my #1 target. A 3 year contract would be about perfect as we develop our own young players in Jarry and Murray. Elliott would be a great backup.

Players that i'd absolutely explore trading:

1. Fleury (don't care if we literally give him away)
2. Letang
3. Scuderi (for anything really)
4. Neal
5. Sutter

Players that i'd listen to offers on or use in package for a top 6 winger/top 4 dman:

1. Despres (probably in package deal with one of the guys above)
2. Bennett (see Despres)


Ideally, we could target players like Blake Wheeler, Andrew Ladd, David Perron, Bobby Ryan, Clarke MacArthur, Ryan Kesler, 1st round picks etc. A goalie like Reimer could come into play.

Anyway, post your thoughts on the upcoming FA's and where we should go with our own players as well as guys from other teams.

Updated the contract chart for the offseason.

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.

Projected 2014-2015 salary ceiling: ...~68-71,000,000
Projected cap spending: ..........................55,119,167
Projected cap space: .......................~12-15,880,833



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2013-14​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

27​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

26​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

James Neal|

RW​

|

26​

|

5,000,000​

|

5,000,000​

|

5,000,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

34​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

34​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

Beau Bennett|

LW​

|

21​

|

900,000​

|

RFA​

Craig Adams|

RW​

|

36​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2013-14​

|

2014-15​

|

.2015-16​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

26​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Paul Martin|

D​

|

32​

|

5,000,000​

|

UFA​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

34​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

19​

|

894,167​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Robert Bortuzzo|

D​

|

24​

|

600,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie...................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2013-14​

|

2014-15​

|

.2015-16​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

28​

|

5,000,000​

|

UFA​

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

26​

|

600,000​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2013-14​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

21​

|

655,000​

|

655,000​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

22​

|

652,500​

|

652,500​

|

RFA​

Matia Marcantuoni|

C​

|

19​

|

633,333​

|

633,333​

|

633,333​

Adam Payerl|

RW​

|

22​

|

626,667​

|

RFA​

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

20​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

20​

|

601,667​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

21​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond|

RW​

|

28​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

21​

|

TBA​

|

TBA​

|

TBA​

Defense.............................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2013-14​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

19​

|

894,167​

|

894,167​

|

894,167​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

22​

|

831,667​

|

RFA​

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

20​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

|

RFA​

Nick D'Agostino|

D​

|

23​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Harrington|

D​

|

20​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

21​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie................................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2013-14​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

19​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

Eric Hartzell|

G​

|

24​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2013-14​

|

News and notes​

Brooks Orpik|

D​

|

33​

|

3,750,000​

|Longest-tenured Penguin has lost a step or six. Free Candy now a Milk Dud

Jussi Jokinen|

LW​

|

30​

|

3,000,000​

|Only counted for $2.1M against Pens cap, can get a bigger raise elsewhere

Lee Stempniak|

RW​

|

31​

|

2,500,000​

|Surprisingly good stickhandler likely too pricey for a third-liner on this team

Matt Niskanen|

D​

|

26​

|

2,300,000​

|So that's what a contract year looks like. Unaffordable unless Letang is dealt?

Tomas Vokoun|

G​

|

37​

|

2,000,000​

|God bless the man if he's able to continue playing, but it won't be in Pittsburgh

Marcel Goc|

C​

|

30​

|

1,700,000​

|Need to figure out what they want to do with Sutter before deciding on him

Taylor Pyatt|

LW​

|

32​

|

1,550,000​

|At least they didn't have to give up anything to get him in the first place? Ugh

Tanner Glass|

LW​

|

29​

|

1,100,000​

|Inevitable “Glass re-signs” thread will surely be the board's most anticipated

Spencer Machacek|

RW​

|

25​

|

632,500​

|Group VI UFA provided much-needed scoring touch for WBS after trade

Deryk Engelland|

D​

|

31​

|

566,667​

|Dressing him over Bortuzzo makes Baby Jesus cry

Joe Vitale|

C​

|

28​

|

550,000​

|May want to test the market after getting limited minutes in Pittsburgh

Brian Gibbons|

C​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|Get legal to start drafting that Must Never Appear On Crosby Line clause

Zach Sill|

C​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|Nasty cut from a skate cost him shot at extended look with the big club

Chuck Kobasew|

RW​

|

31​

|

550,000​

|Was on 82-goal pace through two games before contracting polio

Chris Conner|

RW​

|

29​

|

550,000​

|C'mon, Habs – you know you need another 5-foot-9 perimeter winger

Harry Zolnierczyk|

LW​

|

26​

|

550,000​

|Group VI UFA was franchise's best convicted sex offender since Tibbetts

Andrew Ebbett|

C​

|

30​

|

550,000​

|Near-point-per-game pace with WBS will likely look for a better NHL shot

Nick Drazenovic|

C​

|

26​

|

550,000​

|Wilkes-Barre/Scranton's top scorer not named Kostopoulos

Brendan Mikkelson|

D​

|

26​

|

550,000​

|Top-10 scoring defenseman in the AHL this past season

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player......................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2013-14​

|

News and notes​

Brandon Sutter|

C​

|

24​

|

2,066,667​

|Owners caught Shero sewing KESLER onto 16's jersey at night while sobbing

Jayson Megna|

RW​

|

23​

|

925,000​

|”Promising Pens Winger” label remarkably similar to “Office Hot” concept

Simon Despres|

D​

|

22​

|

840,000​

| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etZpup-GtLw

Philip Samuelsson|

D​

|

22​

|

627,500​

|New extension should be long enough for Jack Neely to be draft-eligible

Bobby Farnham|

LW​

|

24​

|

550,000​

|Remains one of the most aggravating players in the AHL

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

18​

|

Edmonton (WHL)​

|

3 years/650,833 per​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

19​

|

Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)​

|

3 years/598,333 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Dane Birks|

D​

|

18​

|Merritt (BCHL)

Teddy Blueger|

F​

|

19​

|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

18​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

18​

|Nebraska-Omaha (WCHA)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

19​

|St. Michael's (OJHL)

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

20​

|Boston University (HEA)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

23​

|Orsk (VHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

18​

|Dubuque (USHL)

Clark Seymour|

D​

|

20​

|Peterborough (OHL)

Oskar Sundqvist|

F​

|

19​

|Skellefteå (SHL)

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[penguins2946*]

Random question, not really about the roster for next year. Why does Sundqvist need signed before the draft this year while Blueger doesn't need signed?

 

[Waffle Fries]

I thought Gibbons and Sill were both UFAs

Random question, not really about the roster for next year. Why does Sundqvist need signed before the draft this year while Blueger doesn't need signed?

I think it has to do with Blueger playing college hockey.

 

[Sutter16]

Could be wrong but I think both Gibbons and Sill are UFA's.

 

[SEALBound]

Sutter's Rights + to BUF for Stewart
Neal for E. Kane
Sign Kulemin, Hemsky
Resign Goc, Gibbons, Vitale, Sill, Megna, Stempniak

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Chris Stewart ($4.150m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.250m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Ales Hemsky ($4.250m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Marcel Goc ($1.700m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
Beau Bennett ($0.900m) / Joe Vitale ($0.550m) / Brian Gibbons ($0.550m)
Harry Zolnierczyk ($0.550m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Rob Scuderi ($3.375m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) / Simon Despres ($0.851m)
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Jeff Zatkoff ($0.600m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,269,667; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $1,830,333

Something similar was discussed in last thread. Just did a capgeek on it. Lots of flexibility in this lineup. Excellent depth.

Defense is an issue. Perhaps if you let Scuds go, Nisky is resigned. In fact...let's go with that.

 

[Riptide]

Random question, not really about the roster for next year. Why does Sundqvist need signed before the draft this year while Blueger doesn't need signed?

Blueger was drafted out of the NCAA. Sundqvist was drafted from the Swedish league.

 

[Darth Vitale]

It's amazing how fast you guys are going through threads on this topic and you don't even know who the GM and coach will be yet. Take a breather. Wait a couple weeks. Go enjoy your beer / kids / sailboat (whatever stage of life you're in).

 

[66-30-33]

It's amazing how fast you guys are going through threads on this topic and you don't even know who the GM and coach will be yet. Take a breather. Wait a couple weeks. Go enjoy your beer / kids / sailboat (whatever stage of life you're in).

Because we love playing arm chair GM. I love those "what if's?" in terms of making lines imagine how GODLY they would be. Beats whatever the **** Shero does.


I MEAN DID HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! YOU'RE NEXT BYLSMA!!!!! *shines up his boot*

 

[shureshot66]

I thought Gibbons and Sill were both UFAs

Could be wrong but I think both Gibbons and Sill are UFA's.

Good catch, guys. Looks like they both ended up hitting Group VI status. The numbers for that ended up being a bit wonky because the league had to adjust for the shortened season from the lockout.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Just caught this:

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com...8/jackets-umberger-agree-trade-is-needed.html

Umberger, who is signed through the 2016-17 season at a $4.6 million salary-cap hit, has a no-trade clause in his contract through June 14. On June 15, the full no-trade clause becomes a limited clause, and Umberger will provide the Blue Jackets with 10 NHL clubs to which he would not approve a trade.That would leave 19 teams.

 

[66-30-33]

Just caught this:

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com...8/jackets-umberger-agree-trade-is-needed.html

He ain't the player he used to be, i'll pass.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

I'd like Umberger, but not at anything near that cap hit.

 

[Riptide]

It's amazing how fast you guys are going through threads on this topic and you don't even know who the GM and coach will be yet. Take a breather. Wait a couple weeks. Go enjoy your beer / kids / sailboat (whatever stage of life you're in).

Screw that... it's either this thread... or pack/move. This is a lot more appealing.

 

[#1GuinFan]

Is Brian Boyle a UFA this offseason? I was under the impression he was, which I would not mind looking into if the team wanted more size with "grit and character" on the 4th line.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I have no interest in Umberger. We have better players we can re-sign for less money.

 

[theicebox]

Would it be less expensive to buy Craig Adams out or put a hit on him?

 

[Ogrezilla]

Would it be less expensive to buy Craig Adams out or put a hit on him?

depends if anyone finds out I think.

 

[Captain Hook]

Hopefully the new coach and GM will wash their hands of the old regimes washed up veterans like Adams. He'd cost us $233,333 in cap space each of the next two years to buy him out. Although I guess I could live with him on the team for just one more year if he finally takes his rightful place in the press box every night.

 

[DearDiary]

Hopefully the new coach and GM will wash their hands of the old regimes washed up veterans like Adams. He'd cost us $233,333 in cap space each of the next two years to buy him out. Although I guess I could live with him on the team for just one more year if he finally takes his rightful place in the press box every night.

People are far too hard on Adams. Everyone on the team loves him, he tries his best no matter how bad it is, every night and is willing to play in any position.

He also never gets injured. Adams should be given a lot less ice time, but there's no need to get rid of someone the players look up to. Also recall the rumor about Orpik wanting Crosby's captancy removed and Adams leading the charge of sticking up for his captain...

I would remove Adams if Sill gets back to form though. Sill-Vitale-Megna/Gibbons 4th line is as decent as it gets

 

[Waffle Fries]

People are far too hard on Adams. Everyone on the team loves him, he tries his best no matter how bad it is, every night and is willing to play in any position.

He also never gets injured. Adams should be given a lot less ice time, but there's no need to get rid of someone the players look up to. Also recall the rumor about Orpik wanting Crosby's captancy removed and Adams leading the charge of sticking up for his captain...

Who cares how hard he tries? Dan "it's not embarrassing if you fall down on a 2 on 1 with Gretzky, it's evidence that if you work hard enough you can be on the ice with the greatest player of all time" Bylsma probably won't be here.

Adams is one of the worst players in the league, yet has had a guaranteed spot in the lineup. It's ridiculous. We have about 12 better options down in WBS.

 

[66-30-33]

who cares how hard he tries? Dan "it's not embarrassing if you fall down on a 2 on 1 with gretzky, it's evidence that if you work hard enough you can be on the ice with the greatest player of all time" bylsma probably won't be here.

Adams is one of the worst players in the league, yet has had a guaranteed spot in the lineup. It's ridiculous. We have about 12 better options down in wbs.

+++++ no more GLADAMS!!!!!

 

[cygnus47]

Adams as a 12/13th forward is OK as long as everyone else on the team is better than him. Removing Glass will make him look a lot better, as it did in the playoffs.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Adams as a 12/13th forward is OK as long as everyone else on the team is better than him. Removing Glass will make him look a lot better, as it did in the playoffs.

no, he's not as good as at least 12 other people we had available and if we don't have 12 people better than him next year, the new GM is not doing a good job.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

Adams as a 12/13th forward is OK as long as everyone else on the team is better than him. Removing Glass will make him look a lot better, as it did in the playoffs.

Just make him the captain in WBS. I have a hunch he'd make it through waivers.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Just make him the captain in WBS. I have a hunch he'd make it through waivers.

35+ contracts still count against the cap even if they are in WBS, correct?