Confirmed with Link: Pavel Datsyuk [once again] is a Selke Finalist

[Heaton]

http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/red-wings-pavel-datsyuk-named-a-finalist-for-the-selke-trophy

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[SoupNazi]

Congratulations Pavel!

We placed fifth in team defense? Wow. It's clear it was our offense that sucked all season.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

I think being such a household name in the Selke talks for so long has hurt Pavel's chances of winning the award. He's no worse than hes ever been defensively, but it seems as if he's run his course with the voters. Bergeron will win it since since he plays in Boston and from the East - not to say he doesn't deserve it, they all do, but he's got the upper hand on Pavel and Toews because of it IMO.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

With the way Detroit's goals against ended up ranking despite a pretty poor defensive core, I can see Datsyuk winning it this year.

 

[Henkka]

+21 with Lidström at last year (70 games)
+21 without Lidström at this year (47 games)

Pavel, you are just unbelieveable individual.

 

[ProPAIN]

Wow, the whine is strong on the main board's thread

Boring nominees? WTF?

I think it's the three most deserving finalists. Hope Datsyuk wins but it could easily go to Toews.

 

[Henkka]

Boring nominees? WTF?

I think it's the three most deserving finalists. Hope Datsyuk wins but it could easily go to Toews.

Yeah, those three are exactly the right three guys. And we can't say no one of them won't deserve it.

Great finalists.

 

[Epsilon]

Wow, the whine is strong on the main board's thread

Boring nominees? WTF?

I think it's the three most deserving finalists. Hope Datsyuk wins but it could easily go to Toews.

HFBoards is like a little kid that constantly needs shiny new toys/puppies.

 

[Ricelund]

If we're talking about a single season at their current levels of play, would anyone take Toews over Datsyuk?

I think the only player I'd take over Datsyuk is Crosby.

 

[Kronwalled55]

It's almost a shame that he's only won it 3 times... How many times a game do you see Pavel sneak up behind someone carrying the puck up the ice and take it away effortlessly?

 

[WingedWheel1988]

It's almost a shame that he's only won it 3 times... How many times a game do you see Pavel sneak up behind someone carrying the puck up the ice and take it away effortlessly?

At least once a game?

 

[JPE123]

It's almost a shame that he's only won it 3 times... How many times a game do you see Pavel sneak up behind someone carrying the puck up the ice and take it away effortlessly?

The other thing Pavel does so well is when he loses the puck, he almost always gets it back. He's like a beast making up for his mistake. I like all 3 nominees. Wouldn't be surprised if they give it to Toews

 

[Shoalzie]

The greatest Artful Dodger in the NHL...it would be great if every time he stole the puck, he'd quietly say to himself 'Yoink!'

 

[Shawn Lutz]

they should just hand it to Pavel

Best two way forward in the game imho.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Bergeron should win it imo.

 

[Hendricks433]

If we're talking about a single season at their current levels of play, would anyone take Toews over Datsyuk?

I think the only player I'd take over Datsyuk is Crosby.

Right now there are a lot I would take strictly because of age but in their prime for the whole career I take Datsyuk. I think it would be stupid to not take Crosby but man do I hate him a lot.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I think he should win it over Bergeron. Toews is very good defensively, but pretty far behind those two and would look it if not for the United Centers home scoring.

 

[Fugu]

HFBoards is like a little kid that constantly needs shiny new toys/puppies.

No, HFBoards is not like that at all. You may believe some of the members here fit that criterion however.

Dats should win it. He's beyond incredible if you watch what he does every time he's on the ice.

 

[redwings85]

Datsyuk or Toews ..

Datsyuk wins.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

Talk about impressive stats...

According to BehindtheNet.ca's stats, Datsyuk had a Corsi quality of competition rating of 1.340, second on the team and 19th among all NHL forwards to play at least 30 games, meaning he faced the 19th-toughest competition; of the 18 forwards rated ahead of him, the player with the next-best plus/minus was Josh Bailey of the New York Islanders at plus-7.

A win for Datsyuk would give him four Selke trophies, tied with Gainey for most ever.

 

[nik jr]

i would vote for bergeron.

sort of feels that there is a movement for toews, but i would have him 3rd of these players.

 

[MTU hockey]

I really think Datsyuk deserves the Selke this year. Toews and Bergeron are really good defensively, no doubt. But look at the supporting cast around Toews and Bergeron, they have defenseman around them that are helping out like Chara and Keith.

Datsyuk +21 teams Goals For/Goals Against +9

Toews +28 teams GF/GA +53

Bergeron +24 team GF/GA +23

I know that plus/minus isn't a "tell all" stat but I think it shows something, that Datsyuk had a huge impact when he was on the ice considering the closest guy on the team to his +/- was Kindl at +15. He does it all, he wins faceoffs, he takes away the puck from the opposition, and most importantly he doesn't let the other team score when he is on the ice. Oh and last but not least, he achieved his plus/minus without that Lidstrom guy around.

 

[PullHard]

I can't understand how he doesn't win it every year. There isn't a player who plays as hard both ways as him.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

I can't understand how he doesn't win it every year. There isn't a player who plays as hard both ways as him.

Neither can I. He's just as good defensively now as he was in his prime years. Injuries did hurt his changes a couple years.

 

[SoupNazi]

I can't understand how he doesn't win it every year. There isn't a player who plays as hard both ways as him.

In total agreement.

He's one of the best players I've ever seen.