Pavel Brendl: The Ridiculous Story ("Hot dogs and wieners is the best food for me.")

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  1. threetimer*

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    If we sum this up:

    The guy loved to sleep in, play golf, overindulge in junk food and booze and do as little as possible besides watching Friends.

    He had lived like a retired hockey player before he even turned pro.

    Or he was, at least mentally, your usual hey-dude pothead neighbor.
     
  2. Mayor Bee

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    Tampa could have drafted him, and instead did this:

    To VAN: #1 overall
    To TB: #4 overall, #75, #88

    To NYR: #4 overall
    To TB: Dan Cloutier, Niklas Sundstrom, 2000 1st, 2000 3rd

    To SJ: Niklas Sundstrom, 2000 3rd
    To TB: Andrei Zyuzin, Bill Houlder, Shawn Burr, Steve Guolla

    So in the span of six weeks, the #1 pick was turned into three draft picks (including a 1st) and five players.
     
  3. JA

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    His reputation only worsened in Carolina; Hurricanes fans identified him by the nickname "Krispy Kreme."

    http://www.canescountry.com/2009/6/11/904491/pavel-brendl-khl-superstar
    http://cardiaccane.com/2016/11/12/better-know-carolina-hurricanes-pavel-brendl/
    http://redblackhockey.blogspot.ca/2005/09/b-team-canes-lose-in-shootout.html
    http://redblackhockey.blogspot.ca/2005/09/big-joe-shines-again.html
    http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpost.php?p=40372&postcount=12
    http://www.coyotescorner.net/viewtopic.php?p=32458&sid=d736ca7d69013db23e9901af64f61650#p32458
    http://www.letsgocanes.com/forum/showthread.php?2454-Game-Thread-Canes-at-Toronto-2-23-04&p=73543#post73543
    Brendl's Hurricanes teammate, Jeff O'Neill, named his dog after him:

    http://www.chathamdailynews.ca/2015/03/24/nhler-turned-broadcaster-jeff-oneill-tells-it-like-it-is-when-it-comes-to-the-toronto-maple-leafs
     
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  4. FrozenJagrt

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    I know it's a lot of work, JetsAlternate, but could you do more of these threads for other enigma prospects? I love reading stories from years past about highly rated prospects and why they didn't pan out. This is great work
     
  5. vadim sharifijanov

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    or consider this: vincent lecavalier was the most physically talented player in the '98 draft and reminded people of mario lemieux because he was tall, french, and had some slick hands.

    pavel brendl was the most physically talented player in the '99 draft and reminded people of mario lemieux because he was out of shape, ate a steady diet of garbage, slept a lot, and liked to golf.


    and then a year and a half later, they traded cloutier for adrian aucoin and a 2001 2nd rounder. too bad they then gave aucoin away for basically nothing and took someone named alexander polushin with the pick (not the best draft but cammalleri and pominville were both within the next 10 picks).
     
  6. seventieslord

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    Agree, this was a great thread, very informative and entertaining.
     
  7. FrozenJagrt

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    Yep. I think another good one would be Fogarty. I know most of the regulars to this part of the site are familiar with his story. But there are a million great quotes about his talent, and what held him back from fulfilling his potential. If I weren't such a lazy S.O.B. I'd make the thread myself haha
     
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    Next thing you know, Jeff O'Neill will have a dog named Frozen Jagrt.
     
  9. Theokritos

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    Don't know about your talent as a poster, but you sound like you could possibly be a Pavel Brendl of this board. ;)
     
  10. Fantomas

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    It's funny how we are inclined to hate on Pavel Brendl, the hockey player. But if he were a character a on TV show we would probably call him a legend.
     
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    Brendl: "Hurry up and take picture so I can get weiners out of equipment bag and roast them on my hockey stick. Mmmmm, roasted weiners."
     
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    it's like benjy compson staring at the fire
     
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    hototogisu Poked the bear!!!!!

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    Good read! It's interesting how his stock seemed to be in free-fall almost immediately after he was drafted.

    That write-up of his poor performance at his first camp with NYR is quite something, they really do a number on him. Hard to imagine a piece like that being written about a prospect today.

    Then again a kid with an open aversion to training and working hard and who liked to eat as much junk as he did would probably drop straight out of the first round well before the draft. Amazing how so many issues were just batted aside even though they were staring everybody in the face.
     
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    For all you know, I might also be the Pavel Brendl of hockey.

    Yes, I live in Kitchener/Waterloo, but only because the Oktoberfest sausages are to die for.
     
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    Jagr's work ethic is more than MOST players in the league. The man is insane...I wish I was half as work ethikeee as him.

     
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    More from the interview:



     
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    At least Brendl was a key part of the Lindros trade so you got something.

    The Flames traded Savard for Ruslan Zainullin supposedly because the coach didn't like him, then the coach was fired maybe a dozen games later.






    But man the Brendl/Moran years with the Hitmen were something. Also on that team was another '99 draft bust Kris Beech.
     
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    Jeff O'Neill's tweet is just gold. As for the comments Kelly Hrudey made about Brendl, I presume it was pre-season, as Pavel Brendl never played a regular-season shift for Carolina (spending most of his time with Lowell and later San Antonio after being traded to Phoenix, where he became a Group 6 UFA after the season and never returned to North America. If only he listened to coaches and then-captain Ron Francis (before the lockout), who was playing hard despite being in the twilight of his career and more than 1700 NHL games under his belt, and adhered to a physical regimen, he would have had a long NHL career. It's just too bad that people didn't pay attention to his laziness, which would have caused Brendl to free-fall through the draft. But who else was on the Rangers' radar?
     
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    Uh, yeah he did play for the Hurricanes. Albeit only 26 games over two seasons.
     
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    Could you compare him to Kirill Kabanov? Seems like he was a semi-similar case to Brendl.

    I remember Kabanov's draft year, he was insanely hyped, had world class talent, excellent shot.. but in the end it just didn't work out for him.
     
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    I don't know about that. Brendl at least had the numbers. Led the WHL in goals and points.

    Kabanov's sample size in his draft year was tiny, but still pretty underwhelming (PPG in the Q for 25-odd games).

    If Kabanov had dominated the Q in scoring but had the red flags about his attendance it'd be one thing...but he had both working against him.
     
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    Frankly, low attendance should not be held against any player, only against the franchise or the GM.

    :teach:


    Sorry, that one was too good to pass up on. :baghead:
     
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    Awesome work!

    Now do Alexandre Volchkov.
     
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    hototogisu Poked the bear!!!!!

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    :laugh: I guess I got the "att" in "attitude" out and my fingers took it somewhere else
     

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