Proposal: Patrik Laine to Carolina Hurricanes

[ijuka]

To Carolina Hurricanes:
Patrik Laine at 7.7mil AAV for 3 years(1mil retained)

To Columbus Blue Jackets:
Michael Bunting at 4.5mil AAV for 3 years
Jesper Fast at 2.4mil AAV for 2 years
1st 2024
Philadelphia Flyers 2nd 2024

Reasoning:
Carolina Hurricanes desperately need goal-scoring. Their top goal-scorer is Sebastian Aho at 17 goals. There are 48 players who have scored more goals than him. This is terrible for a top contender. While Patrik Laine hasn't scored at the pace that he used to in the past, I believe that he still should have the capability, especially when put in a situation to succeed. Hurricanes are missing a dedicated shooter. Aho can shoot but is really more of a playmaker, and Svechnikov is more of a power forward type than a sniper.

Patrik Laine and Sebastian Aho have some history together, and I think that they should work well together.


For the trade itself, Bunting is the direct replacement. He should be a fine player for his cap hit. He has a history of being able to perform as a first-liner, even though his current season hasn't been amazing. Fast is a bit of a cap move, who probably has neutral value, or even slightly negative.

For the picks, I wasn't entirely sure about the going rate. It's still three whole years, so Laine wouldn't be a rental. A first and the Flyers second does feel a bit steep to me especially with 1mil retained, but I don't think the players coming back are that amazing, so it might be justified. If this is considered an overpay, the Flyers 2nd can be changed into a later pick, such as Canes' own 2nd, or even a third. Either way, it's not really about the specific value but the idea of the trade that I'm going for.

What do you think?

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[Weltschmerz]

Way to much for Laine

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Laine would be a 8.7 million (7.7 with retention) dollar fourth liner and a pp specialist with us. He doesn’t fit the roster style or effort wise. Then add in he can’t stay healthy. With the amount of money we are about to spend to keep Necas, Jarvis, and Slavin, we need maximum production on the dollars we do spend.

Just because Aho and Laine were good together in a tournament that doesn’t feature defense doesn’t mean we should draw lines of success in the NHL.

 

[north49er]

Bring back Puljujarvi and the junior band would be back together......trouble is they'd be playing against pros and not kids.....

 

[SoupNazi]

Uh, no.

 

[Double Dion]

Woof, that would be terrible for Carolina. Laine might be the worst player in the league. He's so putrid in his own end, turns the puck over constantly and isn't good enough offensively to make up for it.

You really think Rod would co-exist with Laine?

 

[Flyer lurker]

You need a hot tub time machine included in the trade to go back to 19-20.

 

[Atoyot]

Laine would be a 8.7 million (7.7 with retention) dollar fourth liner and a pp specialist with us. He doesn’t fit the roster style or effort wise. Then add in he can’t stay healthy. With the amount of money we are about to spend to keep Necas, Jarvis, and Slavin, we need maximum production on the dollars we do spend.

Just because Aho and Laine were good together in a tournament that doesn’t feature defense doesn’t mean we should draw lines of success in the NHL.

Yeah no, not at all to the bolded.

 

[spockBokk]

I don't mind the premise if Laine too Carolina. They've been interested before. The Canes will have quite a bit of space to add a player come deadline this year. They won't be dealing 2 players off their current roster + a 1st for him, that's for sure though.

The assertion that the Canes are "desperate for goal-scoring" is blatantly false. They've currently got 6-7 guys on pace for 20g. Their problem with scoring last year boiled down to them having 2 top 6 guys out with injury during the playoffs. As long as they're healthy, they have plenty of depth scoring-wise.

As much as I'd like to see the Canes go after Laine now, I don't see a trade where the Jackets deal him in division for what the Canes would be willing to give up. Seems like an off-season trade if it were to ever come to fruition.

 

[ProfessorFink22]

As a Jackets fan, I read this too quickly and was considering it even without seeing the Canes' 1st round pick. Soooo obviously I'd do it

I don't see it breaking CBJ's cap structure to retain over the next two years but it may hamstring our abilities to retain on guys like Elvis down the road. If we have to waste a retention slot, I'd retain more than $1 on Laine to get it done and get a better return to make it worthwhile.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Reasoning:
Carolina Hurricanes desperately need goal-scoring. Their top goal-scorer is Sebastian Aho at 17 goals. There are 48 players who have scored more goals than him. This is terrible for a top contender.

Aho is scoring at a ~32 per 82 pace. Vegas won the cup in 22-23 with their top goal scorer, Eichel, at a ~33 per 82 pace.

 

[AvroArrow]

Imagining Laine under Brindamour LOL, no chance Carolina has any interest in him. They are an organization that demands effort, intensity and a high compete level, all of which Laine severely lacks.

He has a horrible contract, even at 7.7M he's not worth it, Carolina isn't giving up a 1st + roster players to take that horrible contract on.

The guy just doesn't have any drive or heart.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Yeah no, not at all to the bolded.

Yes. The way we run our system, he would be on our 4th line. Daniels and RBA care less about ppg pace in line placement as they do ability to play their system in any circumstance. Laine would have to be sheltered here.

 

[Miro4Norris]

Laine is much better player than he's given credit for lately. Fourth liner who has been ppg player past seasons in COLUMBUS? His problem is that he hasn't been able to stay healthy full seasons after his first seasons

 

[Miro4Norris]

Bring back Puljujarvi and the junior band would be back together......trouble is they'd be playing against pros and not kids.....

And they were much younger kids than others. Now they're same age as competitors. I believe the line would've worked but now it's too late with Puljujärvi serious injury and as Laine can't stay healthy either.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The Canes do have forward depth. At full health, either Necas or Kotkaniemi is on the 4th line based on recent combinations. The following defensively oriented lineup is certainly possible in the postseason:

Teravainen - Aho - Jarvis
Svechnikov - Kotkaniemi - Necas
Martinook - Staal - Fast
Laine - Drury - Noesen

 

[AvroArrow]

Laine is much better player than he's given credit for lately. Fourth liner who has been ppg player past seasons in COLUMBUS? His problem is that he hasn't been able to stay healthy full seasons after his first seasons

His problem has been his dog shit effort. That's literally it, he doesn't care about competing.

 

[cslebn]

The expectation of having issues with Brindamour really ignores the fact that he largely got on fine with Torts

 

[Viqsi]

His problem has been his dog shit effort. That's literally it, he doesn't care about competing.

Sorry, you're in the wrong thread. We're discussing Patrik Laine here. Effort is never in question with him, just consistency and decision-making. If anything, he tries to do too much of stuff he's not good at and it brings the team down (like the times he'll try to skate the puck past three defenders at once and immediately lose it).

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

The expectation of having issues with Brindamour really ignores the fact that he largely got on fine with Torts

different styles. Torts runs a very conservate style leaning on defense first while playing a zone scheme. We play a very aggressive style that requires a constant motor of forechecking and m2m defense.

 

[cslebn]

different styles. Torts runs a very conservate style leaning on defense first while playing a zone scheme. We play a very aggressive style that requires a constant motor of forechecking and m2m defense.

Most comments seem to just expect a personality clash. Laine has it out with Larsen publicly once but not Torts.

Laine actually backchecks hard. I suspect it's less an issue than people think.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Most comments seem to just expect a personality clash. Laine has it out with Larsen publicly once but not Torts.

Laine actually backchecks hard. I suspect it's less an issue than people think.

dont really expect a personality clash but a playing clash. Even with a belief that he backchecks hard on occasion, he generally is a floater in the defensive zone. he doesnt play defense well

 

[cslebn]

dont really expect a personality clash but a playing clash. Even with a belief that he backchecks hard on occasion, he generally is a floater in the defensive zone. he doesnt play defense well

Ehhh I'll disagree on floating. I've gotten irritated watching him on wing checking hard in the corners of the D zone and covering the C position. Some of that comes from CBJ playing first guy back plays low, and I think it shows some of it roster issues.

Now Gaudreau, he floats more.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

The Canes do have forward depth. At full health, either Necas or Kotkaniemi is on the 4th line based on recent combinations. The following defensively oriented lineup is certainly possible in the postseason:

Teravainen - Aho - Jarvis
Svechnikov - Kotkaniemi - Necas
Martinook - Staal - Fast
Laine - Drury - Noesen

KK has been on the 4th line for a number of recent games now. Stats are really poor. What's the deal? Looks like BrindAmour has given up on him.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

KK has been on the 4th line for a number of recent games now. Stats are really poor. What's the deal? Looks like BrindAmour has given up on him.

Necas is the hot hand. Drury is his center. Nothing to see really.