Value of: Patrick Kane to TOR

[Snowsii]

No they don’t have to give away futures but without doing anything significant this off season they will not be able to ice a team next season that is anywhere close to this past seasons team… a team that got knocked out in round one again.

As for the Hawks giving away future assets, yes they did and they have three cups to show for it. So did Pittsburgh and LA and Tampa and guess what?

But hey boy wonder Dubas has painted himself into a corner, got his team in cap hell, not won a thing, not a single playoff round and yet Leaf fans continue to sing his praises and kis his a**, truly amazing.

At this point, the Leafs are halfway in, they sold a lot of assets. Dumbass has to put the second foot in or prepare himself for more playoff disappointments moving forward and eventually being fired. No point in sitting here half pregnant.

Nvm

 

[Unbiased Fan]

you think a team will retain and pay $3M in actual salary ( after bonus money paid) and only get a 2nd. Think again. Deadline deals teams paid $500K and got a 2nd. How much is $3M?

The owner of Arizona probably makes that every day. A days work for a solid prospect. Not like they need the cap space

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

No, actually according to Puckpedia it is $1.4m per season, meaning each of the four years they will get hit with a $1.4m buyout charge. This averages out to $1.4m per year, not $1m as you stated.

Also, Mrazek is due $8.6m in actual money/dollars out the door for the next two seasons, not just the $3.8m per year cap hit. His contract is not front loaded like a lot of deals, so some of the usual cash strapped teams like the Arizona State Coyotes may not be as anxious to ”assist” the Leafs with their salary cap concerns.

Considering all of that, a 1st IS probably a fair price to pay for moving Mrazek’s contract. There are probably more then a few owners who will want an even better return for their $8.6m. Remember it wasn’t that long ago during better times that the Leafs gave Carolina a 1st to take the last year of Marleau’s contract.

you are confusing buy out cost to actual cap hit per season. I will post his buy out breakdown again.

Petr Mrázek Buyout Details​

Cost Calculations​

BUYOUT DATE	BASE SALARY REMAINING	S.BONUS REMAINING	YEARS REMAINING	BUYOUT LENGTH	AGE	BUYOUT RATIO	TOTAL COST	TOTAL SAVINGS	ANNUAL COST
Jun. 15, 2022	$8,600,000	$0	2	4	30	2/3	$5,733,333	$2,866,667	$1,433,333

Cap Hit Calculations​

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( TOR)
2022-23	$4,200,000	$3,800,000	$0	$1,433,333	$1,433,333	$2,766,667	$1,033,333
2023-24	$4,400,000	$3,800,000	$0	$1,433,333	$1,433,333	$2,966,667	$833,333
2024-25	$0	$0	$0	$1,433,333	$1,433,333	-$1,433,333	$1,433,333
2025-26	$0	$0	$0	$1,433,333	$1,433,333	-$1,433,333	$1,433,333
TOTAL	$8,600,000	$7,600,000	$0	$5,733,333	$5,733,333	$2,866,667	$4,733,332

 

[DraiInSeiderKuch]

The Leafs problem is not having a 2nd line LW, the 4th line and goaltending. This narrative that they are a bad defensive team needs to die already, they were one of the best defensive teams by all metrics and the eye-test this season. This is the deepest blue line we've had since I've been watching hockey, not only that there is a real system where the forwards are committed to playing defence.

What we really need is a legitimate #1G. Obviously we can upgrade on defence, but it is not a problem, rather a strength. Also given age/contracts no way in hell should the Leafs move Nylander for Kane, Nylander is on an absolute steal of a contract and much younger.

In the playoffs, when it matters, the Leafs had a below average d performance and team d was lacking. Goaltending was fine, the high danger chances given up were not.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

No they don’t have to give away futures but without doing anything significant this off season they will not be able to ice a team next season that is anywhere close to this past seasons team… a team that got knocked out in round one again.

As for the Hawks giving away future assets, yes they did and they have three cups to show for it. So did Pittsburgh and LA and Tampa and guess what?

But hey boy wonder Dubas has painted himself into a corner, got his team in cap hell, not won a thing, not a single playoff round and yet Leaf fans continue to sing his praises and kis his a**, truly amazing.

At this point, the Leafs are halfway in, they sold a lot of assets. Dumbass has to put the second foot in or prepare himself for more playoff disappointments moving forward and eventually being fired. No point in sitting here half pregnant.

I'm talking about the assets for Jones which had nothing to do with any of the 3 cups. For 3 cups spend what you like thats the ultimate goal and I applaud the Hawks for those moves. The Jones trade though was horrible. The leafs also can quite easily move kerfoot, holl, and buyout Mrazek and put together a better team for next season.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

I'm talking about the assets for Jones which had nothing to do with any of the 3 cups. For 3 cups spend what you like thats the ultimate goal and I applaud the Hawks for those moves. The Jones trade though was horrible. The leafs also can quite easily move kerfoot, holl, and buyout Mrazek and put together a better team for next season.

How are they easily going to do that and get better? Kerfoot, Holl, Mrazek all suck and are not worth their contracts. Explain the plan for next year's better team.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

How are they easily going to do that and get better? Kerfoot, Holl, Mrazek all suck and are not worth their contracts. Explain the plan for next year's better team.

Mrazek is a dump or buyout no argument there, kerfoot and Holl may not return much but they aren't cap dumps. Holl is a decent #6 Rd and kerfoot is a good 3 LW who can put up 40 points and is an excellent penalty killer. For teams who have trouble getting free agents who need to spend cap they would be good pickups.

 

[steveat]

What is wrong with you guys? STOP going for skilled players. You have enough. you need people that can win puck battles and you need bottom 6 NOT top 6. You should be looking for players like Rust, Garland, Paul, Cizikas..even Trotchek...though, he'd be overkill.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

What is wrong with you guys? STOP going for skilled players. You have enough. you need people that can win puck battles and you need bottom 6 NOT top 6. You should be looking for players like Rust, Garland, Paul, Cizikas..even Trotchek...though, he'd be overkill.

1 fan doesn't represent the fanbase. Your assessment of what we need at forward is correct though. Marchment, Paul, Zach Aston-Reese, Acciari, Roy from Vegas are all players id like the leafs to target.

 

[AuraSphere]

This would literally be the kawhi leonard trade of NHL if it happened.

Could definitely be the reason we get a cup - if we also get a 1G that is

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Think if the Hawks trade one it’ll be Toews.

Which would’ve been crazy to say 5 years ago…

 

[AuraSphere]

fk now i really want this trade to happen - getting goosebumps thinking about it..

Bunting - Matthews - Kane
XXX - Tavares - Marner

oof who cares who the LW is

 

[Sinbad]

I'm talking about the assets for Jones which had nothing to do with any of the 3 cups. For 3 cups spend what you like thats the ultimate goal and I applaud the Hawks for those moves. The Jones trade though was horrible. The leafs also can quite easily move kerfoot, holl, and buyout Mrazek and put together a better team for next season.

You will be hard pressed to find any Hawks fan that disagrees the Jones trade was horrible. Good player but they gave up way too much to get him and signed for more $ then they should have. The clown who made that deal abandoned his rebuild plan and is thankfully gone.

 

[shortfuze]

How are they easily going to do that and get better? Kerfoot, Holl, Mrazek all suck and are not worth their contracts. Explain the plan for next year's better team.

Kerfoot is definitely worth his contract. Plays up and down the line up and PK’s.