News Article: Pascal Vincent to to take over Power Play from Pearn

[sully1410]

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sp...ing-over-power-play-from-pearn-222921591.html

Good news, I think anyways. They definitely needed to figure some **** out on that front last season.

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[allan5oh]

Honestly I wouldn't mind pearn and Vincent gone, don't forget Vincent ran the power play the first year. I have never been impressed with our special teams.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Honestly I wouldn't mind pearn and Vincent gone, don't forget Vincent ran the power play the first year. I have never been impressed with our special teams.

Well, the PP was much better in the 1st year, mind you. >>

 

[sully1410]

Well, the PP was much better in the 1st year, mind you. >>

our shooting percentage was pretty high if I recall.

 

[Rheged]

Makes me sad.. He has an awesome track record for special teams at the NHL level, should have more than just one messed up season to try and establish things here.

I wonder what he's even going to be doing now considering I'm pretty sure that's specifically what he was brought on to do.

 

[Guerzy]

Makes me sad.. He has an awesome track record for special teams at the NHL level, should have more than just one messed up season to try and establish things here.

I wonder what he's even going to be doing now considering I'm pretty sure that's specifically what he was brought on to do.

I thought the same thing re; his track record.

Apparently Pearn will now be working with Huddy on the defensive side of things.

 

[surixon]

Makes me sad.. He has an awesome track record for special teams at the NHL level, should have more than just one messed up season to try and establish things here.

I wonder what he's even going to be doing now considering I'm pretty sure that's specifically what he was brought on to do.

Well he's still overseeing the pk which looked to have turned a corner last year. I thought the pp was decent under Vincent in year one so I'll withhold judgement on this move.

 

[viper0220]

Makes me sad.. He has an awesome track record for special teams at the NHL level, should have more than just one messed up season to try and establish things here.

I wonder what he's even going to be doing now considering I'm pretty sure that's specifically what he was brought on to do.

Everything on this team is pretty good but the coaching is just a mess. I don't think Noel was ever Chevy's guy, the owners just pushed Noel down Chevy's throat. If it were up to Chevy he would fire Noel and the assistants and bring in his own coach.

 

[wpgsilver]

I would usually be in favour of giving Pearn another shot running the PP. Last year with the lock out was certainly tough to install new systems. But frankly it looked awful from start to finish. It's not like we had bad puck luck, we couldn't set ANYTHING up, and that's concerning.

I wonder if this is a sign Claude is feeling the heat?

 

[viper0220]

I would usually be in favour of giving Pearn another shot running the PP. Last year with the lock out was certainly tough to install new systems. But frankly it looked awful from start to finish. It's not like we had bad puck luck, we couldn't set ANYTHING up, and that's concerning.

I wonder if this is a sign Claude is feeling the heat?

Yes this is Claude Noel feeling the heat, hopefully they don't use Olli Jokinen on the point anymore.

 

[SensibleGuy]

Everything on this team is pretty good but the coaching is just a mess. I don't think Noel was ever Chevy's guy, the owners just pushed Noel down Chevy's throat. If it were up to Chevy he would fire Noel and the assistants and bring in his own coach.

sorry, I don't believe for a second that Chipman/Thompson would "shove" a coach down their appointed GM's throat.

 

[Bob E]

Well, being 30th in league on PP last year, calls for changes.

Seto should help as well.

 

[Potrzebie]

After a horrific start the PK was absolutely top notch the rest of the way. Maybe without the PP for Pearn to worry about it will be even better all season long.

 

[garret9]

Well, the PP was much better in the 1st year, mind you. >>

A lot had to do with the Jets scoring on every 4th shot when Stapleton was on the ice... wasn't going to stay that way.

If you look at the underlying numbers, the Jets power play was at it's best on the second half of the second season... Infact the Jets PP was above average for the 2nd half, although they weren't quite getting bounces.
So not actually sure if this is a step in the right direction.

PP is always tricky to evaluate because the TOI is so extremely limited that sampling bias is huge. That's why PP% is so ****ty of an evaluator.
PP is best evaluated by shot attempts and is extremely affected by system. There is a reason the top 4 best forwards for shot attempts for on PP are all sharks, and the next three are on one team, and the next three are on another team.

IMO the system wasn't bad the problems were:
*Tobi/Buff injuries
*Jokinen used as QB instead of either net guy or half wall
*the non-net down low guy was too low, thus always missing high % goal opportunities with rebounds
*zone entry, Jets had problems with gaining zone when they used Jokinen as the guy to often

 

[sully1410]

And using Olli down low like he should be. The guy is great down there. The lower down he goes...the better he is...

Seriously though...

He needs to be used properly or he is in effective.

 

[Gm0ney]

sorry, I don't believe for a second that Chipman/Thompson would "shove" a coach down their appointed GM's throat.

What a coincidence that, in Chevy's opinion, the man best qualified to take on the role as the new head coach of the Jets was the guy who'd been coaching the Moose!

 

[SensibleGuy]

Hey I'm not saying they didn't have input, I just doubt very much they would force a newly hired GM of their new pro NHL franchise to work with a coach he was strongly against working with.

BTW, maybe Chevy did feel Noel was the best man for the job. Who knows? Maybe Noel was really great in his interviews? He's a good talker...

 

[Gm0ney]

A lot had to do with the Jets scoring on every 4th shot when Stapleton was on the ice... wasn't going to stay that way.

If you look at the underlying numbers, the Jets power play was at it's best on the second half of the second season... Infact the Jets PP was above average for the 2nd half, although they weren't quite getting bounces.
So not actually sure if this is a step in the right direction.

PP is always tricky to evaluate because the TOI is so extremely limited that sampling bias is huge. That's why PP% is so ****ty of an evaluator.
PP is best evaluated by shot attempts and is extremely affected by system. There is a reason the top 4 best forwards for shot attempts for on PP are all sharks, and the next three are on one team, and the next three are on another team.

IMO the system wasn't bad the problems were:
*Tobi/Buff injuries
*Jokinen used as QB instead of either net guy or half wall
*the non-net down low guy was too low, thus always missing high % goal opportunities with rebounds
*zone entry, Jets had problems with gaining zone when they used Jokinen as the guy to often

There were pretty long stretches where the Jets' pp just looked inept last year - couldn't gain the zone, or get set up, or on the off chance they did they'd flub things up to the tune of Yakity Sax. A lot of that seemed to coincide with the Jokinen-on-the-point experiment (which didn't end until that guy in the Bruins jersey screamed at Pearn about it). Anyway, things did look a lot better later in the season.

I believe whoever was responsible for putting Jokinen on the point (and leaving him there despite everyone in the world knowing it wasn't working after about three games in) should be canned. Was that Pearn? Noel? Whatever...fired!

The PK was very bad early on. At first it looked like a mess...but coming off the lockout and with no practice time, that's understandable. The Jets seemed to fix the structural problems pretty quickly but then Pavelec couldn't seem to stop anything on the PK - we were holding teams to 3 shots on 4 pp's and giving up 2 goals. That doesn't help the numbers. But really, after the first couple of weeks the PK was pretty good.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Hey I'm not saying they didn't have input, I just doubt very much they would force a newly hired GM of their new pro NHL franchise to work with a coach he was strongly against working with.

Your just promoted to a new position. It is a position you have been striving for your whole live. And 2 minutes on the job your boss comes to you and strongly suggests you hire this guy as your underling. Although that's not forcing, it's as good as forcing, IMO. Nobody will say no when you are that new to the position with new people.

 

[jamiebez]

Yes this is Claude Noel feeling the heat, hopefully they don't use Olli Jokinen on the point anymore.

In that article, Noel's quoted as saying:

"...one of the things that's clear is we have to do a better job with net presence."

Hopefully they look at the 6' 3", 215 lb center they've already got and say: "Hey, maybe this big ******* can stand in front!"

 

[Gm0ney]

Hey I'm not saying they didn't have input, I just doubt very much they would force a newly hired GM of their new pro NHL franchise to work with a coach he was strongly against working with.

BTW, maybe Chevy did feel Noel was the best man for the job. Who knows? Maybe Noel was really great in his interviews? He's a good talker...

Tell a few jokes...suck a few lozenges...hey, I'm not immune to Noel's charm.

Yeah, I don't think "force" is the right word, but TNSE probably displayed a preference and Chevy, being 5 minutes into his new gig as an NHL GM was probably pretty cool with whatever Chippy was thinking.

 

[cbcwpg]

Well, being 30th in league on PP last year, calls for changes.

No doubt. My pet goldfish could be put in charge of the PP and guess what, they would still have the 30th ranked PP. It doesn't get any worse then last.

When you are the last at anything, changes are going to come.

 

[SensibleGuy]

Your just promoted to a new position. It is a position you have been striving for your whole live. And 2 minutes on the job your boss comes to you and strongly suggests you hire this guy as your underling. Although that's not forcing, it's as good as forcing, IMO. Nobody will say no when you are that new to the position with new people.

I'm the new owner of an NHL franchise. I'm a businessman not a hockey guy and I'm going to tell Chevy, my newly hired GM, that his future is being tied to a coach whom he hates. That's the way I want to start the operation off? Keep in mind that I'm a pretty smart guy and not an *******.

 

[Yukon Joe]

Tell a few jokes...suck a few lozenges...hey, I'm not immune to Noel's charm.

Yeah, I don't think "force" is the right word, but TNSE probably displayed a preference and Chevy, being 5 minutes into his new gig as an NHL GM was probably pretty cool with whatever Chippy was thinking.

Yeah, force isn't the right word. I'm sure it was more like "Noel might not have been my first choice, but he's qualified and seems like a decent guy. I think I can work with him".

There's varying amounts of authority between different NHL GMs. I'm sure nobody tells Lou Lamoriello who to hire. But in Winnipeg, where you have the awkward situation where your "Assistant" GM has a huge personal relationship with your owner, I'm sure Chevy knows when to stick with his guns, and when to be open to suggestions.

 

[sipowicz]

Honestly I wouldn't mind pearn and Vincent gone, don't forget Vincent ran the power play the first year. I have never been impressed with our special teams.

I concur, with a supposed PP QB specialist on the point for both coaches in the last two years plus big Buff's booming shot the PP sputtered badly.