Paradigm shift in NHL team building

[BaseballCoach]

Which of the following 15 players is not like the others?

Alex Ovechkin
Sidney Crosby
Erik Johnson
Patrick Kane
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares
Taylor Hall
Ryan Nugent Hopkins
Nail Yakupov
Nathan MacKinnon
Aaron Ekblad
Connor McDavid
Auston Matthews
Nico Hischier
Rasmus Dahlin

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[26Mats]

Jack Johnson and Nail Yakupov - two busts.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

Which of the following 15 players is not like the others?

Alex Ovechkin
Sidney Crosby
Jack Johnson
Patrick Kane
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares
Taylor Hall
Ryan Nugent Hopkins
Nail Yakupov
Nathan MacKinnon
Aaron Ekblad
Connor McDavid
Auston Matthews
Nico Hischier
Rasmus Dahlin

Jack Johnson.

 

[koyvoo]

Jack Johnson.

He’s the only one there who wasn’t a #1 overall pick.

 

[AboveandBeyond]

What is this thread even about ? Lol

 

[Toene]

He’s the only one there who wasn’t a #1 overall pick.

Pretty sure he meant Erik Johnson... we're supposed to see something else here.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

Pretty sure he meant Erik Johnson... we're supposed to see something else here.

Either way, it is technically correct, so don't need to bother.

 

[Kimota]

AO

Bad teeth

 

[MD thaivuN]

i guess Yakupov being the sole non-nhler here.

 

[the valiant effort]

Where’s the paradigm shift, the Sharks are about to win the cup on the shoulders of 1OA Joe Thornton

 

[WatchfulElm]

Which of the following 15 players is not like the others?

Alex Ovechkin
Sidney Crosby
Jack Johnson
Patrick Kane
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares
Taylor Hall
Ryan Nugent Hopkins
Nail Yakupov
Nathan MacKinnon
Aaron Ekblad
Connor McDavid
Auston Matthews
Nico Hischier
Rasmus Dahlin

One of them has not been drafted by the Edmonton Oilers?

 

[BaseballCoach]

He’s the only one there who wasn’t a #1 overall pick.

My mistake, it was Erik Johnson I should have written, not Jack Johnson.

Now who is not like the others?

 

[BaseballCoach]

Where’s the paradigm shift, the Sharks are about to win the cup on the shoulders of 1OA Joe Thornton

LOL, good point! Of course he is not playing for the Bruins.

For several years, fortune had it that 1OAs were on Stanley Cup Winners, and this led to a bunch of pattern seekers (not just on this board) claiming that the almost sure route to becoming a contender was to tank and draft 1OA. They claimed this repeatedly despite it being pointed out that many 1OAs were not huge difference makers. "Ah, but the odds...."

Except for Nathan Mackinnon, the guys drafted 1st overall over the past 15 years are not in the Final Eight. This year, the odds are actually better NOT drafting 1OA.

It's not that drafting is not important. But this over-emphasis on 1OA and 2OA is shifting, and many pundits have noticed it now.

 

[Andrei79]

Yakupovs the only one not playing in the NHL.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Yakupovs the only one not playing in the NHL.

Neither are 13 others right now.

 

[Andrei79]

LOL, good point! Of course he is not playing for the Bruins.

For several years, fortune had it that 1OAs were on Stanley Cup Winners, and this led to a bunch of pattern seekers (not just on this board) claiming that the almost sure route to becoming a contender was to tank and draft 1OA. They claimed this repeatedly despite it being pointed out that many 1OAs were not huge difference makers. "Ah, but the odds...."

Except for Nathan Mackinnon, the guys drafted 1st overall over the past 15 years are not in the Final Eight. This year, the odds are actually better NOT drafting 1OA.

It's not that drafting is not important. But this over-emphasis on 1OA and 2OA is shifting, and many pundits have noticed it now.

Nobody got this because 1. Jack isn't Erik 2. Erik plays on Colorado. I guess because of his injury youre not counting him ?

 

[DAChampion]

Baseball Coach wants to argue that a team can make the second round without tanking.

 

[Andrei79]

Remember when "fortune" made Malkin and Kane perform in the playoffs ?

I can't think of anything else that was at play there.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Baseball Coach wants to argue that a team can make the second round without tanking.

That teams can contend without having drafted first overall. Truth is they always could, but the Cup winners happened to have 1OAs in many cases.

Now of course this does not mean that drafting is not important. It is, very much so, but results are not automatic just because a team got to pick first.

 

[SOLR]

This is so dumb. What other year was this true? And why stop at first overall in the draft?

Stats 101 fail. “See bro here’s the sample I was looking for! Point proven!” “But man, if you are sampling fishermen you won’t find a lot of breakdancers!? And why fishermen?”

 

[Runner77]

Spinning infinity, boy
The wheel is spinning me
It's never-ending, never-ending
Same old story

What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say that I'll never surrender?

 

[NotProkofievian]

LOL, good point! Of course he is not playing for the Bruins.

For several years, fortune had it that 1OAs were on Stanley Cup Winners, and this led to a bunch of pattern seekers (not just on this board) claiming that the almost sure route to becoming a contender was to tank and draft 1OA. They claimed this repeatedly despite it being pointed out that many 1OAs were not huge difference makers. "Ah, but the odds...."

Except for Nathan Mackinnon, the guys drafted 1st overall over the past 15 years are not in the Final Eight. This year, the odds are actually better NOT drafting 1OA.

It's not that drafting is not important. But this over-emphasis on 1OA and 2OA is shifting, and many pundits have noticed it now.

The last 4 cup winners in a row have had 1OA's on them. If we extend that the 2OA as you do in this post, it's 9 out of the last 10.

I don't know if that's evidence of the importance of high draft picks shifting.

 

[groovejuice]

Something can hardly represent a trend when it's a one-off. If this repeats anually several years into the future, by all means let's talk of a paradigm shift.

Right now it's simply a curiousity.

 

[26Mats]

Something can hardly represent a trend when it's a one-off. If this repeats anually several years into the future, by all means let's talk of a paradigm shift.

Right now it's simply a curiousity.

But it's not only 1 team that's in the mix. It's most teams.

And, the game changed drastically with the enforcement of hooking to the hands and most hits that are called for penalities were clean just a few years ago. So the last two years really are our whole sample size of the new NHL. So the old paradigm doesn't necessarily apply either, just as we're not sure the new one does...

 

[LaP]