Pac 12 in talks with the CW?

[AintLifeGrand]

CW has Indycar’s version of drive tk survive thats dropping in a few weeks too…. I bet when Indycar gets their next tv package, you see a few of the lesser races on the schedule end up there tol

 

[GKJ]

Or we can have the ruling of the anti-siphoning law being unconstitutional reversed and thus the FCC can then require the Cup Finals be OTA every year.

They’re not going to do that.

 

[Big Z Man 1990]

Of course, adding UNLV rather than SMU alongside San Diego State maintains the Pac-12 having three geographic groups of four schools split into two further geographic pairs:

Four Corners: Arizona/Arizona State, Colorado/Utah
Northwest: Oregon/Oregon State, Washington/Washington State
Southwest: California/Stanford, San Diego State/UNLV

The new football schedule format I am proposing under this alignment is a cutback to 7 conference games. Each team would play the other three teams in their regional pods every year, while playing one school from each of the other geographic pairs, in alternating two-year cycles.

As part of a move to the Pac-12, UNLV could change its name to Nevada Tech University to distinguish itself from the University of Nevada in Reno (Nevada State is already taken), and adopt a new nickname to go with it, perhaps Blackjacks, since Rebels comes with rather unfortunate connotations.

 

[GKJ]

Of course, adding UNLV rather than SMU alongside San Diego State maintains the Pac-12 having three geographic groups of four schools split into two further geographic pairs:

Four Corners: Arizona/Arizona State, Colorado/Utah
Northwest: Oregon/Oregon State, Washington/Washington State
Southwest: California/Stanford, San Diego State/UNLV

The new football schedule format I am proposing under this alignment is a cutback to 7 conference games. Each team would play the other three teams in their regional pods every year, while playing one school from each of the other geographic pairs, in alternating two-year cycles.

As part of a move to the Pac-12, UNLV could change its name to Nevada Tech University to distinguish itself from the University of Nevada in Reno (Nevada State is already taken), and adopt a new nickname to go with it, perhaps Blackjacks, since Rebels comes with rather unfortunate connotations.

Why would UNLV change their name of the school? Everyone already knows what UNLV is. What does that have to do with anything? You don’t just decide to be a polytechnic institute because the name is available.

 

[Big Z Man 1990]

Why would UNLV change their name of the school? Everyone already knows what UNLV is. What does that have to do with anything? You don’t just decide to be a polytechnic institute because the name is available.

Those in the camp of the university in Reno often derisively refer to UNLV by its former name of Nevada Southern, much to the chagrin of the UNLV camp. And this name change would be an attempt to curb that.

 

[GKJ]

Those in the camp of the university in Reno often derisively refer to UNLV by its former name of Nevada Southern, much to the chagrin of the UNLV camp. And this name change would be an attempt to curb that.

That matters for no reason at all. Would you change the name of UCLA?

 

[PCSPounder]

Given that the Pac name is more of a name out west than the Mountain West, the Pac will survive longer than “OTA television as a power broker.“ You’re going to have to deal.

Really, being honest, does the B1G make more money on the next contract by getting Washington and Oregon, or North Carolina and Virginia and maybe Duke? How about Miami? Hint: the larger markets are back east.

 

[Spydey629]

Of course, adding UNLV rather than SMU alongside San Diego State maintains the Pac-12 having three geographic groups of four schools split into two further geographic pairs:

Four Corners: Arizona/Arizona State, Colorado/Utah
Northwest: Oregon/Oregon State, Washington/Washington State
Southwest: California/Stanford, San Diego State/UNLV

The new football schedule format I am proposing under this alignment is a cutback to 7 conference games. Each team would play the other three teams in their regional pods every year, while playing one school from each of the other geographic pairs, in alternating two-year cycles.

As part of a move to the Pac-12, UNLV could change its name to Nevada Tech University to distinguish itself from the University of Nevada in Reno (Nevada State is already taken), and adopt a new nickname to go with it, perhaps Blackjacks, since Rebels comes with rather unfortunate connotations.

The Pac-12 hasn't talked to UNLV, much less offered them an invite. Besides, with the football championship game and conference basketball tournament there now, they already have a presence in Vegas. Adding UNLV really doesn't do much for them. Period.

Conference realignment hasn't been about geography for about 20 years now. It's all about eyeballs, with geography being a bonus. SMU makes a lot more sense, because the DFW metro area is a heckuva lot bigger than Vegas/Henderson, NV.

There are two ways UNLV goes to the Pac-12:

1) The Pac-12 goes for 14 to keep up, adding San Diego State, SMU, UNLV, and ???

2) More current Pac-12 schools leave, and the Pac-12 merges with the Mountain West, keeping the Pac-12 brand recognition for the leftovers.

 

[Big Z Man 1990]

The Pac-12 hasn't talked to UNLV, much less offered them an invite. Besides, with the football championship game and conference basketball tournament there now, they already have a presence in Vegas. Adding UNLV really doesn't do much for them. Period.

Conference realignment hasn't been about geography for about 20 years now. It's all about eyeballs, with geography being a bonus. SMU makes a lot more sense, because the DFW metro area is a heckuva lot bigger than Vegas/Henderson, NV.

There are two ways UNLV goes to the Pac-12:

1) The Pac-12 goes for 14 to keep up, adding San Diego State, SMU, UNLV, and ???

2) More current Pac-12 schools leave, and the Pac-12 merges with the Mountain West, keeping the Pac-12 brand recognition for the leftovers.

UNLV makes more sense geographically than SMU, who would be better to go to the Big 12 so that their TCU game can be a conference game again.

Plus SMU is a religious institution, a huge reason why BYU was not invited over 10 years ago. As well, the Dallas Stars complained for years about having to be in the Pacific Division.

 

[Spydey629]

UNLV makes more sense geographically than SMU, who would be better to go to the Big 12 so that their TCU game can be a conference game again.

Plus SMU is a religious institution, a huge reason why BYU was not invited over 10 years ago. As well, the Dallas Stars complained for years about having to be in the Pacific Division.

Again, since when did geography matter in modern college conference realignment? This whole discussion stems from two schools in Los Angeles going to a conference that stretches from Nebraska to New Jersey.

And how do the Dallas Stars have ANY bearing on this discussion? To answer your nonsense, the Big XII is not taking anymore American schools anytime soon. They are going after Pac-12 schools themselves. The Pac-12 is not exactly making it a secret that they want SMU because it brings interest from the Metroplex, religious affiliation or not.

And lastly, the Pac-12 Presidents (the folks who actually make these decisions) still hold their institutions in pretty high regard. They will never invite UNLV, simply because of reputation and lack of academic prestige.

 

[GKJ]

I don't know what it looks like or how it works, but I think the Pac 12 and Big 12 could be headed for a merger. Neither are strong enough to keep up with the Big Ten and SEC. Because it otherwise seems like a race of who steals schools from the other. Even afterward it still may not be enough.

 

[Big Z Man 1990]

The announcement of the Athletics move to Las Vegas just reinforces the notion that UNLV is a better choice for the Pac-12 than SMU. That's because everyone wants to be in Vegas now.

I'm sure a lot of Pac-12 athletes, both current and future, would love to be in Vegas more often than just going there for conference championships. It is more of a destination than Dallas.

As it stands, UNLV can only play the MW football title game in their own stadium if they finish with the #1 seed in the conference. In the Pac-12, they'd be able to do it regardless of whether they are #1 or #2.

The Big 12 could definitely raid the American again if it fails to land any Pac-12 schools not going to the Big Ten. My proposal of Boise State, Memphis, SMU, South Florida, Temple, and Tulane joining the conference would add four more top 50 markets to the conference, make SMU-TCU a conference game for the first time since 2000 with the potential to stage it at AT&T Stadium every year on Black Friday which would be a huge moneymaker, and give the Big 12 the only non-green playing surface in the Power 5 in Boise State's blue turf. Temple would make Philadelphia the Big 12's largest market.

 

[PCSPounder]

The announcement of the Athletics move to Las Vegas just reinforces the notion that UNLV is a better choice for the Pac-12 than SMU. That's because everyone wants to be in Vegas now.

I'm sure a lot of Pac-12 athletes, both current and future, would love to be in Vegas more often than just going there for conference championships. It is more of a destination than Dallas.

As it stands, UNLV can only play the MW football title game in their own stadium if they finish with the #1 seed in the conference. In the Pac-12, they'd be able to do it regardless of whether they are #1 or #2.

The Big 12 could definitely raid the American again if it fails to land any Pac-12 schools not going to the Big Ten. My proposal of Boise State, Memphis, SMU, South Florida, Temple, and Tulane joining the conference would add four more top 50 markets to the conference, make SMU-TCU a conference game for the first time since 2000 with the potential to stage it at AT&T Stadium every year on Black Friday which would be a huge moneymaker, and give the Big 12 the only non-green playing surface in the Power 5 in Boise State's blue turf. Temple would make Philadelphia the Big 12's largest market.

Vegas will give a damn about the Athletics. People moving in from everywhere else will see to that. BTW, Vegas tourism is in trouble at this time.

For UNLV, heck no. UNLV is a football also-ran. There might be a smidge of a recruiting market, but not much. And if you’re, say, Oregon, it’s ALL about recruiting. Vegas is, quite a lot like, oh, Fresno… full of USC fans. Dallas>Vegas at recruiting.

Only problem… I don’t want the Pac in Texas, frankly.

But there’s no value in UNLV. The ONLY value with San Diego State is recruiting, really (four Heisman Trophy winners from San Diego, more than any other city). Better off being the Pac-11 than Vegas, and might even be well off enough not inviting San Diego State.