Ovechkin/Semin or Crosby/Malkin

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  1. borro

    borro Registered User

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    Which one would you rather have?
    AO & Crosby have both been awesome.
    Semin showed he could compete at a high level on an NHL first line
    Malkin has potential.
    Which duo would you pick?
     
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    Crosby vs. Ovechkin is too close to call.(Personally I prefer Ovechkin's all around game.)
    Malkin>>Semin to me so that tips the scale.

    Crosby and Malkin for me.
     
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    In before lock on another stupid thread

    Oh yeah, Crosby & Malkin.
     
  4. borro

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    Malkin may have more upside but he has yet to show it against NHL quality players. Though you may disagree with the "kids" terminology, it is clear Semin has shown the capacity to play and not be out of place with Top line NHL talent. Until Malkin surpasses that Semin>Malkin. It's AO and Semin for me. I'm not saying potential is not there. We just don't know if his play translates as well as AO & Semin. It's quite a reach in my mind.
     
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    Has Semin played in the World Championships? Is he going to play in the Olympics?
     
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    Yup, Crosby and Malkin for me.
     
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    Malkin and Crosby

    AO=Crosby (so close right now, its a wash)
    Malkin>>Semin

    Malkin is putting up better numbers than AO did at the same age in the RSL (not saying who is better out of the two, just the stats behind it). No evidence to suggest that Malkin will not continue to improve.
     
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    I think proving a point by asking a question is a little too complex for the creator of this thread. :shakehead
     
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    This seems like a pretty pathetic attempt to pimp Semin.

    I think AO would be the first to tell you that he would rather have Malkin as his linemate.
     
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    To control the game in the first 50 minutes : Crosby and Malkin
    To break the game in the last 10 minutes : Ovechkin and Semin
     
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    Malkin and Crosby by an enormouse margin.

    We can claim that highly touted prospects have to prove their worth, and people always bring up Daigle... but in honesty they usually do live up to expectations.

    From the previouse 5 years - these are the top two picks.

    Sidney Crosby
    Bobby Ryan
    Alexander Ovechkin
    Evgeny Malkin
    Marc-Andre Fleury
    Eric Staal
    Rick Nash
    Kari Lehtonen
    Ilya Kovalchuk
    Jason Spezza

    Malkin is a strong number two choice, and I can't think of why he would be any worse that most of the players listed here... and all the players here >> Semin
     
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    I'd love to build a team around Crosby and Malkin as 1-2 centers.
    Crosby and Malkin rather easily for me, and I prefer Ovechkin over Crosby.
     
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    As much as I like Ovechkin over Crosby, i'd have to go with Malkin/Crosby.

    I mean come on, semin's so messy!
     
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    Looking at how some guys, like say Zherdev have turned out, it is a VERY reasonable thing to point out that performance may not be what some fans exxagerate it to be, and his performance may degrade some against better talent. It is practically a given. It's amazing that people cannot even QUESTION Malkin without fans acting like their apple cart has been turned over. I'll stick with AO & Semin. If you had to have a shootout goal, AO & Semin would be picked before Crosby and Malkin. If you needed a big hit, Crosby's name would never come up. If you needed someone to backcheck, Crosby's name would never come up. AO's game is clearly more complete.
     
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    Ovechkin=Crosby [pick your fruit..apples or oranges]
    Malkin>Semin

    Assuming both Malkin and/or Semin are over here next season then we can see if Semin could close the gap but hey malkin is a C and Semin is just a LW.
     
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    So your sole basis for saying Malkin is better is he was picked top2? Do the names Daigle and Wickenheiser mean anything to you? This is not rumour this is fact. They suck. So does the theory that somone is better solely because they were picked earlier.
     
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    This has any meaning in a society that threatens players if they come to North America. Very simplistic evaluation. Semin has been called by some the best player there. This was not by Caps fans mind you. Semin easily makes any national team if he allowed to play.
     
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    I dont think AO and Crosby's style of play has much to do with it here, clearly the weakest player in thread is semin ... JV no more jokes http://www.hfboards.com/images/smilies/winky.gif.
    You make it sound like Crosby is awful anyway, the way i see it is :
    AO = Crosby (Similiar in upsides, id probably take AO at the moment, but its pretty close)
    Malkin > Semin (Malkin has more upsides, sure he hasnt played in the nhl but id still take him over Semin quite easily).

    Your also Forgetting Semin and his stance right now, there are issues there which alone may make someone take Malkin over Semin and thats not taking into aco**** how good Malkin is.
     
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    Semin hasn't proven himself in the NHL any more than someone like Tomas Surovy. Yeah, he showed some flashy moves and spurts of elite ability, but 22 points in 52 games hardly makes him an established player.

    I'd definitely put my money on Malkin ending up the better player.
     
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    No,
    AO>Crosby
    Semin=>Malkin

    Malkin can close the gap by playing well against NHL'ers. He has not done so to date.
     
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    All 4 are fantastic players......but I gotta go with Crosby/Malklin.
     
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    I'm saying Malkin probably will be good. Sure you picked two players who bombed, and Malkin could bomb too... but probably not. He's played fantastically since being drafted, so if anything his stock has gone up.

    If I could have either Malkin or Semin on the OIlers it wouldn't even be a consideration who I would take.
     
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    And I would put any amount that Semin>>>>>Surovy. That is a useless attempt to pimp Surovy as an earlier poster claimed with Semin. Malkin could be better. it is by no means a given. The names Daigle and Wickenheiser mean ANYTHING to you?
     
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    If the goal of this thread was....

    "Hey look at the two prospects on my team...aren't they better than the guys on the other team?" and you are going to tear into and argue with anyone who says Crosby/Malkin.....then I should just close the thread now. If you want other people's opinon, you should just read and not post. You aren't going to convince anyone that Semin and AO are better than Crosby Malkin if they don't already believe.

    So cool your jets.
     
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