Value of: Ottawa's #4 overall to NYR?
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Tawnos
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No one around here can answer that, I don't think. Has anyone even traded a top-5 draft pick since before the 05 lockout?
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How 'bout 9, 26 and 39? likely get shot for suggesting this
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If your player is gone at 4 , Honestly this would be a strong offer . Moving down 5 spots for 3 picks in top 40 is pretty goodHow 'bout 9, 26 and 39? likely get shot for suggesting this
After the top 2 in this draft it nose dives
2010, but the Leafs moved that pick unknowingly in the Kessel trade. Post-lockout, the only Top 5 pick knowingly moved was the Islanders’ 1st in 2008. They only dropped from 5 to 7 in that deal and then 7 to 9 in another deal. The Islanders pulled 2 2nds and a 3rd in those trades.
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I'd be surprised if Ottawa ended up doing anything but staying in place, though.
How 'bout 9, 26 and 39? likely get shot for suggesting this
I think Ottawa goes for that. They need to recoup a first rounder since they don't have one next year.
Tawnos
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In other words, there's no market on this kind of thing. Most of the realistic predictions and proposals are based on how similar deals went in the past. There usually is more than one example.
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How 'bout 9, 26 and 39? likely get shot for suggesting this
I like this lol I'd even swap 22 for 26 to even it out.
A little more out of the box:
Shattenkirk + 9th overall
for
Ryan + 4th overall
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I dont think Ottawa moves that pick. There gonna try and be competitive so they arent gifting Colorado a top pick. This is the reason I think that when they trade Karlsson it won't be a package of all futures. They will draft the NHL ready player in Tkachuk and happily walk away.
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Hayes is not enough to trade back.. He's a 45 pt player . Not that interesting.
He's more than the points. I don't think we can replace him tbh. Trading him to move up picks leaves a huge hole in our roster.
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That’s too much for the rangers to payHow 'bout 9, 26 and 39? likely get shot for suggesting this
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Then I guess they stick with 9th and we stick with 4th. I went and looked at this really nice Porsche .. and I asked how much? .. the guy said for this model its $150k .. I said that's too much .. and he said well maybe we can show you another car.
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Not for Tkachuk as suggested by TSHow 'bout 9, 26 and 39? likely get shot for suggesting this
Only if Svechnikov or Zadina drops, I probably would do it though.
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Trading back is tricky .. its hard to peg a value. And I would rather speculate on a high side return other wise ... its not really tempting to trade back out of 4.. Don't get a 4 every year or very often .. and right now no first next year we have to make this one count. So I guess what I am saying is it will take what would at least seem like an over payment to trade back. If this was the NFL for sure that would be too much.. but have to look at realistic stats of chances of picks where doing what.
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The difference between 4 and 9, in this years draft, isn’t a young 2nd line center like Hayes who has size, skill, and can play in any situation in all 3 zones.
I completely understand why the Sens would pass on that hypothetical offer, but dont go on labeling Hayes as just another 45~ center. Teams would kill for him.
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I'd much rather get one of Boqvist or Wahlstrom than Tkachuk. Hopefully both are there by 9th overall. But I'd gladly do that trade if it ends the sens with Boqvist/Wahlstrom, while the Rangers can draft the most overrated player this draft.
I would not trade the 9th overall and Hayes for the 4th. Hayes really broke out once they dumped that dope Miller. His faceoffs have gotten better each year. He soon maybe a 55% draw guy with 30 goals. He had 23 points in his last 28 games. That with some rookies trying to get a look.
Ottawa is going to take a defenseman to replace Karlsson. So, I don't see them as any threat to take Tkachuk. The deal for NY if Tkachuk is there is with Arizona who needs an NHL ready defenseman. That is why I would check their interest in Skjei.
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Don't think Ottawa will take Tkachuk at all at 4. It'll be Hughes or Boqvist. At 9 they're praying one of Dobson/Bouchard are available.
I'd do 4+22 for 9+26+39+Spooner. Ottawa gets a temporary 2C who they can move to the wing once Brown is ready to take the spot.
Even then, it's great value but I think Hughes and Boqvist are going to be absolute studs. And would rather just grab one of them.
Arizona would probably bite on a Skjei deal for Tkachuk. But I think they really want him.
I'd do 4+22 for 9+26+39+Spooner. Ottawa gets a temporary 2C who they can move to the wing once Brown is ready to take the spot.
Even then, it's great value but I think Hughes and Boqvist are going to be absolute studs. And would rather just grab one of them.
Arizona would probably bite on a Skjei deal for Tkachuk. But I think they really want him.
