Proposal: Ottawa - Carolina

[DaveMatthew]

To Ottawa: Haydn Fleury
To Carolina: Mike Hoffman

Picks could be included, but this would be the core.

Ottawa gets a big, mobile LH defenseman that they can pair with Karlsson for (hopefully), the next 5-7 years. He'd round out a good, young top 4 core with Karlsson (again hopefully), Chabot, Fleury and Ceci.

Carolina gets a goal scoring winger with a big shot signed to an appropriate contract that can slot into their top 6. They definitely like Fleury, but with Faulk, Slavin, Hanifin, Pesce and Bean coming up, it's a position of strength they could afford to subtract from.

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[rent free]

canes will only wanna trade their dman for a #1C

 

[DaveMatthew]

canes will only wanna trade their dman for a #1C

Easier said than done. True #1 centers don't move often, and if you're trying to get someone younger and cost controlled, it'd be a package around Slavin or Hanifin, not Fleury.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

canes will only wanna trade their dman for a #1C

That's gonna have to be a defenseman better than Haydn Fleury then.

 

[rent free]

That's gonna have to be a defenseman better than Haydn Fleury then.

Easier said than done. True #1 centers don't move often, and if you're trying to get someone younger and cost controlled, it'd be a package around Slavin or Hanifin, not Fleury.

yup, but they won't trade a dman for a winger

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Done deal.

And no it's not "we'll only trade a defenseman only for a 1C", because not all of our defensemen are equal. I don't think there's a Canes fan out there that thinks Fleury is worth a 1C.

 

[BleedBlue14]

yup, but they won't trade a dman for a winger

If it's Fluery for Hoffman I'm pretty sure they would.

Hanifin on the other hand would be a bit more complicated for them in assuming

 

[FreshSeabass]

I could probably get behind this. I like fleury but we desperately need more goal scorers.

 

[GoldiFox]

Works for this Canes fan. Hoffman would immediately be one of the best forwards on the team while Fleury is somewhat of a luxury. Cap and Salary not a big deal for Canes.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I do it for the Canes. Like Fleury a lot, but yeah, he's a luxury.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Reasonable. The Canes need an upgrade at center, but the market is rather barren right now; it may not materialize. Lindholm needs a goal scorer that isn’t a one-man show to pass the puck to. Hoffman is under contract for another ~2.5 seasons. Going into next season:

Aho – Staal – Teravainen
Hoffman – Rask? – Lindholm
Skinner – Necas? – Williams

 

[KevinRedkey]

How has Fleury looked, and what does he safely project to be in 3 years?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Fleury came out of the gates very strong, earning a 2nd pair role next to Faulk. He hit a bit of a wall and the coaches started to rotate him in and out of the lineup with Dahlbeck since. Overall, Fleury has been NHL caliber. The Canes have been and continue to be very patient with his development.

Mid-term, I’m not sure if he has the natural offensive ability to be anything more than a complimentary Top 4 defensive defenseman. 1st/2nd pair depends on how his defense develops and who his partner is.

 

[Unsustainable]

This is a solid offer, we’d take it

 

[bluedevil58]

 

[Handles1919]

awful for sens lol

 

[JCLA]

I side with the other canes fans on this one

 

[Neiler]

Not ok with this from Ottawa.

 

[Chan790]

I'm going to disagree as a Canes fan.

We need a 1C. We pretty much know it's going to cost either Hanifin or Slavin...we can't afford to move Fleury; he's not a luxury, we need him to step into the hole left in our top-4 by our acquisition of an offensive 1C.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I'd like to see a pick added by Canes

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I'm going to disagree as a Canes fan.

We need a 1C. We pretty much know it's going to cost either Hanifin or Slavin...we can't afford to move Fleury; he's not a luxury, we need him to step into the hole left in our top-4 by our acquisition of an offensive 1C.

As far as I can tell, there have been two "true" 1C's traded for in probably the last dozen years. Seguin (because Chiarelli is an idiot) and Johansen, because he and Torts weren't hitting it off. I'm not saying that a defenseman for 1C wouldn't be ideal, but I'm not seeing it be likely at all. Teams that have 1C very rarely part with them. So for me, saying we aren't trading a guy like Fleury because we are waiting for that mythical 1C deal is like turning down an attractive woman because I'm waiting for a supermodel.

We need more guys that can put the puck in the net almost as much as we need a 1C.

 

[Deku]

I would want Fleury + 1st
which Canes probably don't do

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I would want Fleury + 1st
which Canes probably don't do

They likely wouldn't do that, but it's understandable that's what you'd want.

 

[Stickpucker]

Changing gears...any chance Ottawa is unhappy with Duchene and would move him?

 

[Neiler]

Changing gears...any chance Ottawa is unhappy with Duchene and would move him?

Not yet. And yet is the key word there.

It's plausible that after this year ends as a total disaster, they sit down to assess everyone and their role in the team. Maybe they are open to moving him if they feel he just didn't fit. Or maybe they have more clarity by then on who will be part of the team going forward and whether a rebuild is on the horizon.