Confirmed Trade: [OTT/SJS] Erik Karlsson and Francis Perron for Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers, 1st, 2nd - Part III

[Foppberg]

And remember guys not to forget this:

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That looks so weird.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

These assets are insignificant compared to a generational defenseman.

That's a different argument than saying the assets received are not valuable as the post I quoted said.

 

[Sensung]

He's not gonna put the same numbers and his health is not the same. Only a year left on contract I do this deal. I really like the norris balcers and 1st round pick plus 2nd round pick part of it.

Grab a clue. Do yourself a favour and look up his stats from Jan 1 to the end of last season when he was about 80% healthy. After a full off season of training, he's healthy and ready to embarrass the shit out Melnyk and Dorion.

EK is going to rip it up.

 

[WaW]

I know I'm late to the party and I'm sure it's been said, but I'd rather get Nick Suzuki and a 2nd from Vegas for Karlsson than what they got from SJ.

Absolutely fleeced.

 

[Alwalys]

Oh man I almost feel sorry for Ottawa fans, they got PTSD bad. One is going back through all my posts where I mentioned Karlsson and liking them to try to own me, I suppose, totally missing the fact that I was hacking Ottawa fans for overhyping Karlsson. I guess he was the one ray of hope in an otherwise bleak situation, and now that he's gone ...

So as to give this post actual content, one thing I have always said is that Karlsson isn't necessarily going to score a hell of a lot more points on a team with a better offense like San Jose. There is still only one puck to go around so he doesn't suddenly become a 90+ point D-man.

I guess now I can hope I was wrong about that

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Good news is that Melnyk can use the cap savings to buy himself security.

 

[dingbathero]

HAHA.

What a farce.

SJ PP is going to be insane..... wonder if they will try to balance out 2 units (I don't think I would)

He was going to a Western team but for that....ffs....

 

[NyQuil]

One is going back through all my posts where I mentioned Karlsson and liking them to try to own me, I suppose, totally missing the fact that I was hacking Ottawa fans for overhyping Karlsson.

Yeah, that was me.

It's pretty hilarious seeing all the things you said about him, and now you have to cheer for him.

The comical irony of it is a silver lining for sure.

Hopefully he's not "absolute garbage" for you guys this year.

 

[crazyhawk]

I know I'm late to the party and I'm sure it's been said, but I'd rather get Nick Suzuki and a 2nd from Vegas for Karlsson than what they got from SJ.

Absolutely fleeced.

It has to taken into consideration that the Pacthes trade to Vegas included his agreeing to sign once there. With Karlsson ( at least to my awareness ) there is no agreement to sign with San Jose. Karlsson will wait and choose where he signs his next ( and potentially last ) big contract. San Jose has traded for Karlsson for one year and one year only.

 

[topshelf15]

Cant do sweet f*** all ,when you have a owner like EM....Congrats SJ

 

[5 Minute Major]

Cant do sweet **** all ,when you have a owner like EM....Congrats SJ

That is so true.

Ownership drives this league. Have a bad owner and, unfortunately for Ottawa fans they do, you have zero chance for any sustained success.

You may catch lightining in a bottle for a year or two but it won’t last.

 

[bert]

Oh man I almost feel sorry for Ottawa fans, they got PTSD bad. One is going back through all my posts where I mentioned Karlsson and liking them to try to own me, I suppose, totally missing the fact that I was hacking Ottawa fans for overhyping Karlsson. I guess he was the one ray of hope in an otherwise bleak situation, and now that he's gone ...

So as to give this post actual content, one thing I have always said is that Karlsson isn't necessarily going to score a hell of a lot more points on a team with a better offense like San Jose. There is still only one puck to go around so he doesn't suddenly become a 90+ point D-man.

I guess now I can hope I was wrong about that

Talk about not deserving to get to cheer for him. I guess if i never played hockey or have never tied a pair of skates it would be difficult for me to understand the sport.

 

[topshelf15]

That is so true.

Ownership drives this league. Have a bad owner and, unfortunately for Ottawa fans they do, you have zero chance for any sustained success.

You may catch lightining in a bottle for a year or two but it won’t last.

We got hosed because EM doesnt care...PD is merely the puppet ...All trades go through the owner,and he doesnt want to spend a dime...On any other team EK is re signed ,or is moved without the money of the return being the biggest issue...

Every deal we have made for a star since he has been the owner we have gotten shafted on..His penny pinching ways have been the exact reason for this....

When we make our next deal,us Sens fans already know what to expect....And its more than obvious so does the rest of the league

 

[HoweHullOrr]

OT: At least the Islanders didn't trade Tavares for Tierney, Demelo, Norris, and Balcers.

You forgot the 1st + 2nd (and the conditional picks) which I guess are not worth mentioning?

 

[lawrence]

starting to get the feeling no matter what Ottawa got in return it's a bad trade.

I'm not truly sure what the issue is here, or what Ottawa is exactly missing. 2 full time NHLers under 25 along with a 1st rounder a 2nd rounder and a 1st round prospect,

people are also ignoring the fact and out right avoiding the "Sharks could have gotten him for free next July"

I'm sure if a Canadian team made a similar move for Karlsson moving comparable pieces hfboards.com will actually be all over that team for forking up too much for a pending ufa come July.

well done hfboards.com

 

[HoweHullOrr]

I know I'm late to the party and I'm sure it's been said, but I'd rather get Nick Suzuki and a 2nd from Vegas for Karlsson than what they got from SJ.

Absolutely fleeced.

That could be true but how does anyone really know how Balcers and Norris will turn out? Then there is a 1st and 2nd as well (along with possibly other 1st & 2nd round picks). HF is where the clairvoyants hang out I guess.

 

[lawrence]

I know I'm late to the party and I'm sure it's been said, but I'd rather get Nick Suzuki and a 2nd from Vegas for Karlsson than what they got from SJ.

Absolutely fleeced.

???????? so you rather have less, love the canned responses around here.

 

[Super Hans]

I still can't believe they dealt with SJ again after they flipped Hoffman back to the Atlantic, let alone get bent over this badly.

 

[lawrence]

That could be true but how does anyone really know how Balcers and Norris will turn out? Then there is a 1st and 2nd as well (along with other possibly other 1st & 2nd round picks). HF is where the clairvoyants hang out I guess.

and no one knows if Karlsson will resign in San Jose. this trade is less risky for Ottawa, they don't want a Tavares like outcome.

San Jose is going all in, literally, and I think they do have a legit shot at reaching the finals, which will then reward the sens, possibly the 30th or 31st pick.

 

[Holymakinaw]

and no one knows if Karlsson will resign in San Jose. this trade is less risky for Ottawa, they don't want a Tavares like outcome.

San Jose is going all in, literally, and I think they do have a legit shot at reaching the finals, which will then reward the sens, possibly the 30th or 31st pick.

Nope. That pick is owned by Colorado. The 1st round pick from this trade is for the 2020 draft, if the Sharks make the playoffs, which they will.

 

[GoldenSeal]

After reading through pages and pages of grief, I still don't understand how much Sens fans expected to get for an unextended rental. Whether he's the best at whatever position or not is beyond the question. Sharks offered up quantity and got quality, and that's a fair trade.

The best the Sens could have gotten was multiple firsts or a top six player on a rental contract, given that they're supposedly in rebuild mode now, only picks and prospects are going to be a help to them, and that's essentially what they got.

If you want to blame anyone for EK's departure, I'd start with Hoffman's girlfriend and go from there.

 

[topshelf15]

After reading through pages and pages of grief, I still don't understand how much Sens fans expected to get for an unextended rental. Whether he's the best at whatever position or not is beyond the question. Sharks offered up quantity and got quality, and that's a fair trade.

The best the Sens could have gotten was multiple firsts or a top six player on a rental contract, given that they're supposedly in rebuild mode now, only picks and prospects are going to be a help to them, and that's essentially what they got.

If you want to blame anyone for EK's departure, I'd start with Hoffman's girlfriend and go from there.

Meh its our cheap lazy owner that deserves 100% of the blame

 

[GoldenSeal]

Meh its our cheap lazy owner that deserves 100% of the blame

Overall, absolutely. But after the situation with Hoffman's girlfriend, I feel that EK was leaving, whether the Sens wanted him to or not.

 

[CanadienShark]

I still can't believe they dealt with SJ again after they flipped Hoffman back to the Atlantic, let alone get bent over this badly.

That's why Dorian included the clause for a conditional 1st round pick if we trade him to an Eastern Conference team.

 

[CupInSIX]

I'm convinced the makeup of this trade completely changed the second they got the news of the severity of Pageau's injury. All to save face. Awful.

I hope the Senators finish 20th or higher, but Colorado wins the draft lottery just to put the cherry on top of this turd fiasco.

I know I'm late to the party and I'm sure it's been said, but I'd rather get Nick Suzuki and a 2nd from Vegas for Karlsson than what they got from SJ.

Absolutely fleeced.

I doubt Suzuki was on the table for 1 year of Karlsson.