One and done for Howson?

axecrew

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On The Insiders today Darren Dreger talked about 4 or 5 AHL teams that are wanting to remove Scott Howson as President and CEO of the AHL. The NHL had been kept out of it up until last week or so and now Bill Daley is involved to figure out what's going on. Howson's contract expires at the end of this season.
Who and Why I wonder...
 
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My synopsis is that the "independent" teams are upset with how the AHL has catered to the NHL's needs through the pandemic (taxi squads, etc... that have pilfered AHL rosters). Most AHL franchises are owned by their NHL teams, and the independent clubs that aren't are trying to unseat Howson to get more of what they want.
 

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My synopsis is that the "independent" teams are upset with how the AHL has catered to the NHL's needs through the pandemic (taxi squads, etc... that have pilfered AHL rosters). Most AHL franchises are owned by their NHL teams, and the independent clubs that aren't are trying to unseat Howson to get more of what they want.
That would be a solid answer except that #1 During the Pandemic Dave Andrews was still in charge and actually delayed his retirement because of it. #2 The NHL Taxi squads would've happened no matter what since the Players involved were on NHL contracts, If you want to "Blame" someone for those the you have to blame Bettman and the NHL teams not the AHL President. As far as the independent teams wanting more from the AHL...what a concept that would be, teams wanting more...I'm sure that NONE of the NHL owned teams want more from the AHL in terms of revenue or other perks.
Does Howson serve the masters at the NHL having been an NHL executive for years...probably. Does he cater to the NHL owned teams in the AHL....probably. Does he need to be removed...Maybe. I do believe that it is telling that there are 5 or 6 AHL independently owned teams that are involved and that SOME of them have been in the league for a VERY VERY LONG time. When the likes of Hershey, Rochester etc are complaining then you have to wonder why? I do know from a conversation that Chicago is involved in a support role and isn't leading the charge on this one.
 
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That would be a solid answer except that #1 During the Pandemic Dave Andrews was still in charge and actually delayed his retirement because of it. #2 The NHL Taxi squads would've happened no matter what since the Players involved were on NHL contracts, If you want to "Blame" someone for those the you have to blame Bettman and the NHL teams not the AHL President. As far as the independent teams wanting more from the AHL...what a concept that would be, teams wanting more...I'm sure that NONE of the NHL owned teams want more from the AHL in terms of revenue or other perks.
Does Howson serve the masters at the NHL having been an NHL executive for years...probably. Does he cater to the NHL owned teams in the AHL....probably. Does he need to be removed...Maybe. I do believe that it is telling that there are 5 or 6 AHL independently owned teams that are involved and that SOME of them have been in the league for a VERY VERY LONG time. When the likes of Hershey, Rochester etc are complaining then you have to wonder why? I do know from a conversation that Chicago is involved in a support role and isn't leading the charge on this one.
Howson was named to the position on Feb. 14, 2020, and took over the 2020-21 season - President and CEO

From the above link:
Unanimously elected as the 10th President in American Hockey League history on February 14, 2020, Scott Howson took over for David Andrews in 2020-21 as Andrews transitioned to the role of Chairman of the Board of Governors.
 

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That is a warning shot. If the NHL doesn't like what the AHL is doing, it will take its ball to another sandbox. They own 21 of 32 teams, and at least seven of those 11 would follow.
Until we know who the teams are that are involved...it's hard to say who would do what...
If AHL cornerstones like Hershey or Rochester or Providence are involved then the whole game changes...
 

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Until we know who the teams are that are involved...it's hard to say who would do what...
If AHL cornerstones like Hershey or Rochester or Providence are involved then the whole game changes...
Hypothetically if the NHL decided to create its own player development league based out of NYC and invited all of the current independent AHL clubs to join. Do you really think a team like Providence whould choose to stay in the the AHL and risk loosing the extremely valuable Bruins affiliation.
 
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Hypothetically if the NHL decided to create its own player development league based out of NYC and invited all of the current independent AHL clubs to join. Do you really think a team like Providence whould choose to stay in the the AHL and risk loosing the extremely valuable Bruins affiliation.
Again...UNTIL WHO KNOW WHO'S INVOLVED IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT THEY WOULD DO. Is it more clear now? The teams mentioned were simply reference points.
 

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I guess they could it would be kinda hard to find 32 cities
The 21 NHL owned AHL teams whould immediately withdraw from the AHL and join the NHLDL and at least half of the independently owned AHL teams (Lehigh,Providence,Colorado,Cleveland,Grand Rapids,Syracuse) would follow them after being told by the NHL join or we will find another place to put our prospects.
 
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The 21 NHL owned AHL teams whould immediately withdraw from the AHL and join the NHLDL and at least half of the independently owned AHL teams (Lehigh,Providence,Colorado,Cleveland,Grand Rapids,Syracuse) would follow them after being told by the NHL join or we will find another place to put our prospects.
You would have to find 10 other cities
 

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The 21 NHL owned AHL teams whould immediately withdraw from the AHL and join the NHLDL and at least half of the independently owned AHL teams (Lehigh,Providence,Colorado,Cleveland,Grand Rapids,Syracuse) would follow them after being told by the NHL join or we will find another place to put our prospects.
I am not so sure Syracuse would jump as this may give the organization an option to get out of the deal with the County/Oncenter for the outhouse the Crunch play their home games in and enable to franchise to move/be sold.
 
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You would have to find 10 other cities
You wouldn’t need to find 10 new cities. In my opinion you wouldn’t need to find any new cities as the pressure to bow to the NHL would be too great.

Of the 10 independent franchises (leaving Chicago out for discussion purposes) Providence, Hershey, Lehigh Valley, Cleveland, Grand Rapids and Colorado are not going to risk losing a lucrative affiliation relationship. Springfield, Charlotte, and Syracuse do not have deep pockets to operate as true independent such as what Chicago intends to do. That leave Milwaukee as the sole team that could in theory join Chicago in it attempt to play as an independent and that would be rather difficult to do in a two team league. Even at that point with Milwaukee signing a new five-year affiliation deal, it gives the impression that they wouldn’t side with Chicago in any case.

As much as people want to believe the fans have great sway.... They don’t. The NHL is the primary customer of the AHL, and right now is the one holding all the cards. And they certainly are not going to allow one of its member clubs to be left out in the cold when it comes to the development of its prospects. Especially, a club that’s contributed to the last two Calder Cup champions.

It's going to come down to one of three options. Let’s remember that while the NHL is number one customer of the AHL, Chicago is currently a member in good standing. The AHL can not revoke the franchise without cause, and if it did, it would open itself up to legal action by the Wolves who have the resources to undertake such action so whatever the AHL or the NHL does have to work around that premise so based on that it comes down to three options.

1. The AHL will award a provisional franchise to Carolina. Yes, they’ve said they wouldn’t go to a 33rd franchise, but Chicago might have forced their hand on having no choice. The new franchise would operate normally except they would not have voting rights. How long that will lasted would depend on how long Chicago remains independent.

2. The NHL issues an ultimatum to the AHL that all its clubs need to have a minor league affiliation or risk the NHL separating away from the AHL with 21 clubs folding its franchises, and forming its own Triple-A league. The framework is in place because it was written into the last NHL CBA as intimidation to the league to push it toward a Pacific Division.

3. The NHL takes a wait-and-see approach on the assumption that Chicago is going to fail in its attempt to field a competitive roster. Carolina will share an affiliation with one or multiple teams for a season, and revisit the situation in 2024-2025. That will give everyone one year to see how this plays out while laying the groundwork for what the future looks like because ultimately, the NHL is not going to allow one of its member clubs to be left out of the sandbox without a club because in a salary cap world it’s a disadvantage to not be able to develop your prospects, coaching staff and in some cases management positions.
 

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