Post-Game Talk: Oilers Win Game 1! Broken sticks and lucky deflections be damned!

[ManofSteel55]

On Edmonton, he was one of the best goals for ratio 5v5 on the team on the 3rd line, if notbthe best. On shit ass Detroit, sure. He was a perfect fit here.

Edit: with limited minutes played I should add.

His goals came in bunches. Consistency would be key with him. He does have one heck of a shot though.

 

[Messrules11]

Of course the magnitude of the player makes a difference but that isnt the point.
The point is a player under contract sporting his former teams jersey at playoff game.

Pick the player...its a very bad look.

Really, this is all that matters. Not sure about the pissing match that has followed

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

You're cherry picking what I said. I said he turned his offense around in San Jose. That Team was one of the worst dressed Teams in NHL history. Of course his +/- took a hit. I even touched on that on earlier postings. In Edmonton, he was pretty damn fooking good. He deserved more playing time. He earned it. He produced. He was reliable.

You said he only produced in pond hockey type meaningless games. That was a complete farce. He was great in his limited playoff time here. Very productive in fact for the limited minutes Woody allotted him. He was also very defensive minded

Okay you are entitled to think that. I don’t agree. 3 organizations (so far) don’t agree.

 

[guymez]

Really, this is all that matters. Not sure about the pissing match that has followed

I hear you.
Enjoying the avatar BTW.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Really, this is all that matters. Not sure about the pissing match that has followed

Look what you did.

 

[AM]

His goals came in bunches. Consistency would be key with him. He does have one heck of a shot though.

Playing without the puck is what he needs work on.

 

[Broberg Speed]

"Just because Kane is on the 4th line that doesn't necessarily mean he won't see 12-15 minutes. I'm sure Henrique isn't going to share every 5-on-5 shift with McDavid. Kane will get ice time, maybe a shift or two, with McDavid."

Looks like I got Kane's and Henrique's ice time predictions mixed up. And I got the lines mixed up. But I figured Evander would play a big role in game one.

 

[RegDunlop]

Kostin is under contract with the Sharks until the end of the 2024/25 season.

Honest question...why does the status of the player matter? So if Hyman did exactly the same thing that Kostin did then it would matter....but with Kostin it doesnt matter?
Not following you here.

I think you are 100% correct sir.
I'd go bat shit crazy even if Ernie did that stunt. It's awesome on this side of it but....!
Plus when you're contractually obligated that is just unacceptable.

But... I like Klim!!

 

[Broberg Speed]

I think you are 100% correct sir.
I'd go bat shit crazy even if Ernie did that stunt. It's awesome on this side of it but....!
Plus when you're contractually obligated that is just unacceptable.

But... I like Klim!!

If the Sharks would eat some of his contract I'd trade for a year of Klim.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

If the Sharks would eat some of his contract I'd trade for a year of Klim.

I think they used their retention spots.

 

[Broberg Speed]

I think they used their retention spots.

Don't you get new retention spots every season or is it "once you use them they're gone forever"?

Edit: I did a super quick google thing... "Teams can only carry a maximum of 3 Retained Salaries at a time."

My bad.

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

This Klim talk reminded me of the Kassian meme. Even though it’s a bet, it’s a bad look for his current team.

 

[tiger_80]

Winnipeg is serious about beating up the frail Kale.

 

[tiger_80]

Elite goalies like Vasilevski or Hollyf*** are quite interesting to watch after getting used to the Oilers' netminders over the years.

 

[JordanGalhanth]

This Klim talk reminded me of the Kassian meme. Even though it’s a bet, it’s a bad look for his current team.

I thought of this exact incident as well. Not a coincidence that he was traded about 17 months after this.

 

[tiger_80]

Why are there so few elite goaltenders in today's game? 10-15 years ago there were Brodeur, Luongo, Thomas, Miller, Lundquist, Fleury, Rask, Kiprussoff, Quick, you name it. These days only Vasilevski and Helleybuck seem to be in that tier. The rest are more like Skinner, mas o menos.

 

[McShogun99]

I think they used their retention spots.

For like the next 6 years with the Karlsson and Meier retentions. Some horrible GMing by Grier.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[RegDunlop]

If the Sharks would eat some of his contract I'd trade for a year of Klim.

Oh I'd love to have him back. At a certain price point and defined role. He was never a negative presence here, loved the team and fit in nicely. Those can be hard to find gems some time.

But... he ain't no rock star like some seem to think! Hes an adequate perhaps above average player. I actually wouldn't be surprised if SJ cut ties with him.

 

[bellagiobob]

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[alanschu]

Why are there so few elite goaltenders in today's game? 10-15 years ago there were Brodeur, Luongo, Thomas, Miller, Lundquist, Fleury, Rask, Kiprussoff, Quick, you name it. These days only Vasilevski and Helleybuck seem to be in that tier. The rest are more like Skinner, mas o menos.

Wasn't 2018 or so when they had some equipment size reductions which made a pretty big difference?

 

[tiger_80]

Wasn't 2018 or so when they had some equipment size reductions which made a pretty big difference?

Oh, did they actually reduce the equipment? I did not know.

 

[alanschu]

Oh, did they actually reduce the equipment? I did not know.

Looks like it first came in in 2017, with some further changes to the chest protector a bit later. The NHL goalie equipment saga continues

You see a pretty quick jump in scoring in 2017. I'm not sure why it's continued to go up, but I wonder if there was some philosophy changes in offenses and lineups that took a few years to percolate.

The last time we had goal scoring above 3 per game was 05-06 which had a big bump with more powerplays (obstruction calls). Before that was 95-96.

Not to take anything away from the players. I think it's a bit of a copy cat league, but I remember when it was "holy crap McDavid broke 100 points!" and now we're getting back to with a bit more goals (and more total game) giving more opportunities for players to put up points. I am not complaining!

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

Guys like Laraque who bleed Oil colours and is in Edmonton all the time I get.

Smid who works for Oil Kings and pretty much was an Edmontonian even while on LTIR with Calgary I get.

But a guy that kinda used the KHL as leverage against the team and wasn't even here a full season just seems odd.

I’d be betting that negotiation was all his agent not so much him. But the fringe guys need to go for everything they can while they can

 

[tiger_80]

Looks like it first came in in 2017, with some further changes to the chest protector a bit later. The NHL goalie equipment saga continues

You see a pretty quick jump in scoring in 2017. I'm not sure why it's continued to go up, but I wonder if there was some philosophy changes in offenses and lineups that took a few years to percolate.

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The last time we had goal scoring above 3 per game was 05-06 which had a big bump with more powerplays (obstruction calls). Before that was 95-96.

Not to take anything away from the players. I think it's a bit of a copy cat league, but I remember when it was "holy crap McDavid broke 100 points!" and now we're getting back to with a bit more goals (and more total game) giving more opportunities for players to put up points. I am not complaining!

Yes. I remember how dominant Crosby was in his early years, but his point totals look pedestrian now. And he was way better than the likes of Kucherov and MacKinnon. Even Pastrnak and Forsberg are now pretty much 100 point players.