Predsanddead24
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Prospect Info: Offseason Prospect Ranking #11
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Viqsi
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Porter Stoutheart
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I wouldn't be so bold as to vote down our own scouts on Nilsson vs. Lind, but I can definitely see us finishing up with Chistyakov, Schaefer, Nilsson, Lind, Afanaseyev as the final top-15.
Probably Stastney would end up being the only head-scratcher for most external folks, because they didn't see him play 8 games like we did.
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I've been voting Egor for the last 3 so I'll keep going until he wins
BigFatCat999
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AintLifeGrand
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You fools, Afanasyev is not even top 20, let alone 11
Lind. he was my vote
hopefully we keep going to like 30 or however many prospects we have in the system.
I'll say the difference between 10 or 11 and 18 or 20 will probably be the closest it's been in my time of following our prospects closely.
Viqsi
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BigFatCat999
First Fubu and now Pred303. !@#$! you cancer
Get the cribbage tourney going. Let the hurt come then.So, basically, you're telling me I should start trying.
Schaefer didnt show alot of progression in d+1 and was drafted 32nd overall in a not deep draft and a couple years ago that wouldve been early 2nd round instead of 1st. Stastney i think may be the only outlier in the top 10 personally. We have alot of good forward prospects at the moment.
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I think most outside observers would agree. However I think the way a lot of people look at things here, it's really heavily weighted by what they see locally... either directly with the Preds, or at least at a slight remove in Milwaukee. And only a few people follow prospects elsewhere at all. So Schaefer being relatively "new" to us, and a name people didn't really recognize or follow here until this year's trade deadline, it hurts his ranking here.
His junior production for example is about on par with Afanaseyev's, Schaefer was drafted higher, and Afanaseyev hasn't shown much as a pro yet either, so probably anybody outside of this forum would be scratching their heads about us ranking Afanaseyev over him. But we're going to rank Afanaseyev ahead, because we don't really follow junior players and we've seen Afanaseyev longer, gotten to know him better.
I think think a good argument against Schaefer is what we saw from him at the WJC. Taken off that stacked 1st line in Seattle, he was just a pure 4th line checker on a team that was comprised of other top young talents bound for the NHL at the WJC. Afanaseyev back in his day also played in the WJC. And chipped in at least a little offense. Heck, even Austin Watson back in his day was a big scorer at the WJC, not just a 4th line grinder. So if you look at things that way, maybe it can help put Schaefer's likely projection into better perspective? Just being "A 1st Round Pick" garners him accolades from the prospect-watcher people outside of this forum. But if you really think about it, he probably doesn't project to being a significant NHLer, if he ever makes the NHL at all.
Armourboy
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What said alot to me about him, Edmonton fans overall weren't that disappointed he got moved out.
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That’s a good breakdown and yes that makes sense. I mean I just see it as poile and Trotz wanted him as a big piece of the ekholm trade so there must be something they like in him. He made a little progression but not a ton I get that. I still see him developing into a solid third liner unless he really takes a dump in his progression. Whereas guys like L’Heureux, Afanasyev and such I don’t see as much higher than a fourth liner. I hope I’m wrong. Just really like schaefers game and size. Rarely caught out of position and so sound defensively with some definite offensive instincts.I think most outside observers would agree. However I think the way a lot of people look at things here, it's really heavily weighted by what they see locally... either directly with the Preds, or at least at a slight remove in Milwaukee. And only a few people follow prospects elsewhere at all. So Schaefer being relatively "new" to us, and a name people didn't really recognize or follow here until this year's trade deadline, it hurts his ranking here.
His junior production for example is about on par with Afanaseyev's, Schaefer was drafted higher, and Afanaseyev hasn't shown much as a pro yet either, so probably anybody outside of this forum would be scratching their heads about us ranking Afanaseyev over him. But we're going to rank Afanaseyev ahead, because we don't really follow junior players and we've seen Afanaseyev longer, gotten to know him better.
I think think a good argument against Schaefer is what we saw from him at the WJC. Taken off that stacked 1st line in Seattle, he was just a pure 4th line checker on a team that was comprised of other top young talents bound for the NHL at the WJC. Afanaseyev back in his day also played in the WJC. And chipped in at least a little offense. Heck, even Austin Watson back in his day was a big scorer at the WJC, not just a 4th line grinder. So if you look at things that way, maybe it can help put Schaefer's likely projection into better perspective? Just being "A 1st Round Pick" garners him accolades from the prospect-watcher people outside of this forum. But if you really think about it, he probably doesn't project to being a significant NHLer, if he ever makes the NHL at all.
Time will tell, any one of these guys could impress or disappoint it’s so early.
Personally I think Afanasyev will either bounce between the AHL and NHL for a few years or, more likely, head back to Russia/Europe.
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Agreed. Not that their playstyles are similar but I could see him having a similar trajectory like Anthony Richard did. Probably capable of being a replacement level type of player in the NHL, but continually gets passed up by better players. There is hopefully going to be a lot of competition for callups among the Ads next season (and even to hold NHL spots for many guys) so it is time for Afanasyev to really assert himself if he doesn't want to get passed over. He needs to play more like he did in the Ads playoff run last year than he did in the regular season.
Im hoping Afanaseyev can step up his production next season but ultimately i think he ends up as a bottom line replacement level player
Armourboy
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These guys are all going to be playing under a new system in theory so who knows what they will do. Just about any of then from #1 on down could fall on their face and be out of the league in the next couple of years.
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Players favored for certain reasons over others by Poile and Hynes may not be by Trotz and Brunette and vice versa. There's such a thin line separating the successful teams and players each year, it's hard to predict what can happen when the dynamics of a team change like this.
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