Off Season Trade Thread vol. X - He's gone edition
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ReginKarlssonLehner
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Our best hope is Stastny signs with a team like Chicago or NYR.
COL+STL+NSH+PHX will be gnawing for Spezza.
COL+STL+NSH+PHX will be gnawing for Spezza.
BonkTastic
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Reserving this post for links, can a mod please copy/paste my list here from the last thread?
THE FACTS:
(Please keep the following in mind: Only some of these are "facts". Many of these are only rumours from sources that can be considered "credible" within the hockey community. The author of this post is not responsible for the blatant misuse of "rumours" as "facts" - this is only here as a quick-link resource for anyone who is curious about sources for Senators-related trade & UFA news... The onus of responsibility of what is done with this information is on the reader. As usual, common sense should prevail. Thanks.)
On Jason Spezza:
- "The Senators have had mild interest from the St. Louis Blues and Anaheim Ducks in Spezza." - Garrioch (May 11th, 2014)
- Blues are "high on Jason Spezza's wish list" - Andy Strickland (May 13th)
- Spezza requests trade, Murray says he will oblige (June 11th)
- St. Louis Blues have "serious interest", putting together package "that would include Patrik Berglund". - AJ Jakubec (June 12th)
- Brad May said Spezza never asked to be traded, instead asked for "commitment from Ottawa" (June 14th)
- Spezza's "10 team Refusal List" includes all 4 Western Canadian teams. Unsure if Toronto or Montreal are on that list. (June 14th)
- Calgary rumoured to have made an offer of: Hudler, Backlund, possibly Wideman, and a combination of 2nd and 3rd round picks. - Garrioch (June 14th)
- Spezza's "No Trade" list apparently includes Florida, Columbus, Nashville, and the Islanders - Dreger (June 17th)
- Calgary GM Treliving claims that rumours of Flames making an offer for Spezza are "categorically false... That’s 100% fantasy island" (June 17th)
- "Told Jason spezza's number one choice for a trade is to the #stlblues. Word is he believes he's headed to either STL or ANA" - Strickland (June 18th)
- Murray says he has "two serious offers on the table" for Jason Spezza (June 19th)
- Murray said he will allow a team to talk to Spezza about an extension only after "a deal has been done" - Garrioch (June 19th)
- Jason Spezza trade talk heating up. OTT in conversation with 4 teams, three in the West and one in the East. - McKenzie (June 25th)
- Reports that Chicago are showing interest in Spezza. Up to six teams interested... a few tire kickers. - Garrioch (June 26th)
- Murray: 1)asked for draft pick, 2)if trade doesn't happen "we have a really good hockey player", 3)no callbacks from teams, 4)likes Spez over Kesler (June 27th, 2014)
- Adrian Dater: Rumours that the trade market for Spezza is not great (June 27th)
- AJ Jakubec: Polled NHL pro scouts; don't think Sens will get deal they want (June 27th)
On Milan Michalek:
- Murray says the only UFA he wants to keep is Milan Michalek (June 11th, 2014)
- "It’s believed the Senators are trying to sign Milan Michalek to a new contract." - Ken Warren (June 13th)
- Murray confirms there is a contract offer on the table for Michalek. "There is a good chance" a deal can get done (June 19th)
- Michalek "doesn't appear likely to return" to Ottawa. "Beginning to look elsewhere for his next contract" - Sportsnet (June 25)
On Ales Hemsky:
- Talks between Ottawa & Hemsky break down, Hemsky's reported asking price is $5.5mil/year. Hemsky expected to test UFA market. (June 4th, 2014)
- Sens offer Hemsky 3yr, ~$10mil deal, which Hemsky rejected. Sens listening to offers for his UFA rights. - Bob McKenzie (June 16th)
On Stephane Da Costa:
- Ottawa did not want to give Da Costa a 1-way contract. Likely headed to KHL - Bob McKenzie (June 16th, 2014)
- Stephane Da Costa "has signed a deal to play in Russia’s KHL next season" (June 20th)
On Robin Lehner:
- Murray says discussions ongoing with Lehner about short and long term extensions (June 19th, 2014)
- Sens "not close to a deal yet" with Lehner. "Will get done" - Garrioch (June 19th)
On Jiri Sekac:
- "Right now he has more than a dozen firm offers on a max entry-level deal for two years. He's expected over the next couple of days to make up his mind as to which team. This is a guy who is in great demand." - Bob McKenzie (June 6th, 2014)
- Vishal Hussein ("Voice of the Oshawa Generals") says Sekac has eight NHL offers... frontrunners are Devils, Flyers & Sens (June 9th)
On the Internal Budget/ Cap:
- "The Senators will not be a cap team next year and the club will continue with an internal budget with $56-to-$57 million range. The club will continue to put money into drafting an developing to have success." - Garrioch (April 15th, 2014)
(will update this as news & legit sources are made available)
THE FACTS:
(Please keep the following in mind: Only some of these are "facts". Many of these are only rumours from sources that can be considered "credible" within the hockey community. The author of this post is not responsible for the blatant misuse of "rumours" as "facts" - this is only here as a quick-link resource for anyone who is curious about sources for Senators-related trade & UFA news... The onus of responsibility of what is done with this information is on the reader. As usual, common sense should prevail. Thanks.)
On Jason Spezza:
- "The Senators have had mild interest from the St. Louis Blues and Anaheim Ducks in Spezza." - Garrioch (May 11th, 2014)
- Blues are "high on Jason Spezza's wish list" - Andy Strickland (May 13th)
- Spezza requests trade, Murray says he will oblige (June 11th)
- St. Louis Blues have "serious interest", putting together package "that would include Patrik Berglund". - AJ Jakubec (June 12th)
- Brad May said Spezza never asked to be traded, instead asked for "commitment from Ottawa" (June 14th)
- Spezza's "10 team Refusal List" includes all 4 Western Canadian teams. Unsure if Toronto or Montreal are on that list. (June 14th)
- Calgary rumoured to have made an offer of: Hudler, Backlund, possibly Wideman, and a combination of 2nd and 3rd round picks. - Garrioch (June 14th)
- Spezza's "No Trade" list apparently includes Florida, Columbus, Nashville, and the Islanders - Dreger (June 17th)
- Calgary GM Treliving claims that rumours of Flames making an offer for Spezza are "categorically false... That’s 100% fantasy island" (June 17th)
- "Told Jason spezza's number one choice for a trade is to the #stlblues. Word is he believes he's headed to either STL or ANA" - Strickland (June 18th)
- Murray says he has "two serious offers on the table" for Jason Spezza (June 19th)
- Murray said he will allow a team to talk to Spezza about an extension only after "a deal has been done" - Garrioch (June 19th)
- Jason Spezza trade talk heating up. OTT in conversation with 4 teams, three in the West and one in the East. - McKenzie (June 25th)
- Reports that Chicago are showing interest in Spezza. Up to six teams interested... a few tire kickers. - Garrioch (June 26th)
- Murray: 1)asked for draft pick, 2)if trade doesn't happen "we have a really good hockey player", 3)no callbacks from teams, 4)likes Spez over Kesler (June 27th, 2014)
- Adrian Dater: Rumours that the trade market for Spezza is not great (June 27th)
- AJ Jakubec: Polled NHL pro scouts; don't think Sens will get deal they want (June 27th)
On Milan Michalek:
- Murray says the only UFA he wants to keep is Milan Michalek (June 11th, 2014)
- "It’s believed the Senators are trying to sign Milan Michalek to a new contract." - Ken Warren (June 13th)
- Murray confirms there is a contract offer on the table for Michalek. "There is a good chance" a deal can get done (June 19th)
- Michalek "doesn't appear likely to return" to Ottawa. "Beginning to look elsewhere for his next contract" - Sportsnet (June 25)
On Ales Hemsky:
- Talks between Ottawa & Hemsky break down, Hemsky's reported asking price is $5.5mil/year. Hemsky expected to test UFA market. (June 4th, 2014)
- Sens offer Hemsky 3yr, ~$10mil deal, which Hemsky rejected. Sens listening to offers for his UFA rights. - Bob McKenzie (June 16th)
On Stephane Da Costa:
- Ottawa did not want to give Da Costa a 1-way contract. Likely headed to KHL - Bob McKenzie (June 16th, 2014)
- Stephane Da Costa "has signed a deal to play in Russia’s KHL next season" (June 20th)
On Robin Lehner:
- Murray says discussions ongoing with Lehner about short and long term extensions (June 19th, 2014)
- Sens "not close to a deal yet" with Lehner. "Will get done" - Garrioch (June 19th)
On Jiri Sekac:
- "Right now he has more than a dozen firm offers on a max entry-level deal for two years. He's expected over the next couple of days to make up his mind as to which team. This is a guy who is in great demand." - Bob McKenzie (June 6th, 2014)
- Vishal Hussein ("Voice of the Oshawa Generals") says Sekac has eight NHL offers... frontrunners are Devils, Flyers & Sens (June 9th)
On the Internal Budget/ Cap:
- "The Senators will not be a cap team next year and the club will continue with an internal budget with $56-to-$57 million range. The club will continue to put money into drafting an developing to have success." - Garrioch (April 15th, 2014)
(will update this as news & legit sources are made available)
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Tim Stützle
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Considering that Anaheim got Kesler and there were no solid offers on the table, I'm fairly pleased they didn't cave in and take a lesser offer.
I've felt for some time that July 1 is the time to do this deal.
Firstly, once Stastny is off the table, a lot of teams are going to be left scrambling.
Secondly, this allows time for Murray to try to talk Spezza into broadening his list.
Lastly, waiting until the 1st opens up the possibility of a sign and trade, and if he's willing to sign for a decent price, it should considerably raise his value.
I agree that Stastny to St. Louis would be bad news, but even still, i think there is still a decent chance that a resigned Spezza nets a package on par with what Vancouver got. Maybe more if we can package him with a defenseman. I sure hope so anyway.
I've felt for some time that July 1 is the time to do this deal.
Firstly, once Stastny is off the table, a lot of teams are going to be left scrambling.
Secondly, this allows time for Murray to try to talk Spezza into broadening his list.
Lastly, waiting until the 1st opens up the possibility of a sign and trade, and if he's willing to sign for a decent price, it should considerably raise his value.
I agree that Stastny to St. Louis would be bad news, but even still, i think there is still a decent chance that a resigned Spezza nets a package on par with what Vancouver got. Maybe more if we can package him with a defenseman. I sure hope so anyway.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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Yea I see a trade happening almost immediately after Stastny signs. July 1st should be the perfect day.
Nac Mac Feegle
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I can't see Spezza going to St Louis at all. He is a horrible fit for Hitchcock's system.
Nashville is making some nice moves...they look like they want to make a run sooner rather than later.
So many teams could make a play for Spezza...agree with Senility. We're going to see some sweet offers in July.
Nashville is making some nice moves...they look like they want to make a run sooner rather than later.
So many teams could make a play for Spezza...agree with Senility. We're going to see some sweet offers in July.
BonkTastic
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If there's post-Stastny-signing action, it'll probably happen on the 2nd. Stastny signs on the first, the 2 or 3 teams who missed on Stastny put in offers, Murray takes the evening to confer with Spezza and his agent, and pull the trigger by noon the next day.
7-8 days from now, Murray is gonna look like a genius for waiting it out. Unless he was getting the value he wanted, there was absolutely no reason to trade Spezza at time where teams have other options.
I pray to Alfie that the Neal trade changes Spezza's mind.
I pray to Alfie that the Neal trade changes Spezza's mind.
MisterMethos
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Ideally, Stastny going to NYR would make it easier to move Spezza to any of those teams listed above including Chicago and Dallas as well. And with all being division rivals with the exception of PHX, you know they are going to try to "one up each other".
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The one thing that could screw things up is if Spez is demanding too much money. It's all about the contract extension I think and if he really wants to get something done before September, he'll play ball.
Not sure how I feel about Murray's refusal to let other teams negotiate until a deal is worked out. I get his logic, but there's no question that the risk that he walks is scaring some teams off.
Not sure how I feel about Murray's refusal to let other teams negotiate until a deal is worked out. I get his logic, but there's no question that the risk that he walks is scaring some teams off.
ReginKarlssonLehner
Let's Win It All
As much as I want to be patient and wait this out for a great return. I really can't handle more than another week extra with this Spezza stuff.
My head and time are still haunting me after that Heatley bull****.
I was in 3 different countries(over the span of when he first asked to get traded till the actual trade) running from internet cafe to internet cafe to see if he got traded. Nothing was worse than waking up 4 am in the morning in Dubai trying to find an internet cafe open to see if Heatley waved his NTC for the EDM deal. I almost punched a puppy on the way back when nothing happened.
My head and time are still haunting me after that Heatley bull****.
I was in 3 different countries(over the span of when he first asked to get traded till the actual trade) running from internet cafe to internet cafe to see if he got traded. Nothing was worse than waking up 4 am in the morning in Dubai trying to find an internet cafe open to see if Heatley waved his NTC for the EDM deal. I almost punched a puppy on the way back when nothing happened.
MisterMethos
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I wonder if the discussion between Maloney and Murray at the draft had something to do with that.
I think a couple of things happened that will prolong the Spezza trade.
1. The cap came in lower than some teams thought and that has forced them to re-evaluate their plans. 2. Stastny is in play still, obviously everybody that wants a center wants to see if they can get him without giving up any assets. 3. I think BMurr is telling Jason, there is someone on your list that we can get a deal with, go there or stay here. You decide.
I don't think this gets decided until after the first day of free agency.
1. The cap came in lower than some teams thought and that has forced them to re-evaluate their plans. 2. Stastny is in play still, obviously everybody that wants a center wants to see if they can get him without giving up any assets. 3. I think BMurr is telling Jason, there is someone on your list that we can get a deal with, go there or stay here. You decide.
I don't think this gets decided until after the first day of free agency.
FunkySeeFunkyDoo
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Karlsson for Couture + vlasic
Ryan for Kane.
Spezza + methot +1st for ROR + Barrie.
MacArthur Turris stone
Hoffman couture Kane
ROR zibanejad lazar
Don't care don't care don't care
Vlasic barrie
Cowen ceci
Phillips gryba.
Ryan for Kane.
Spezza + methot +1st for ROR + Barrie.
MacArthur Turris stone
Hoffman couture Kane
ROR zibanejad lazar
Don't care don't care don't care
Vlasic barrie
Cowen ceci
Phillips gryba.
That defense core is garbage. Five bottom pairing dman and we lose a #1 dman, top 5 player.
I see 4 top 4 d men in 2 years. Phillips leave. Claessen (the savior ) steps in. I see what will be one of the best top nines
Nac Mac Feegle
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...wow. Already this bitter and Spezza hasn't been traded yet.
This ain't gonna be pretty.
...wow. Already this bitter and Spezza hasn't been traded yet.
This ain't gonna be pretty.
Every one must go.
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