Celtics/NBA Off-Season/Draft - Celtics complete sign-and-trade, send Gordon Hayward to Hornets

[Troublesome 85]

I see this as a loser move by Hayward. Couldn’t hack it in Boston so he wants to play someplace easy and just make money.

 

[CDJ]

4/120 is f***ing insane

 

[HockeyMomx2]

Well that reunion with the Celtics didn't last long sadly as Enes is going over to Portland.

I'm in Portland, I think you misunderstood.

 

[CDJ]

I’d take Batum tbf

he’s awful

 

[HockeyMomx2]

Pretty sure she's a Portland fan.

Its funny, I never followed basketball when I lived there and I babysat for Larry Bird as a teenager lol

 

[Gator Mike]

 

[CDJ]

Winning, that stat

ok so you don’t have numbers. Your claim is that Gordon Hayward is a net negative player despite the team being at its best offensively with him on the court

 

[N o o d l e s]

he’s awful

I meant as opposed to nothing lmao

 

[CDJ]

I meant as opposed to nothing lmao

let’s the hornets waive him then maybe sign him for vet min

I like the millsap idea.

 

[CDJ]

Assuming that Hayward was willing to sign the deal Indiana was offering...Danny only had so much leverage here.

I do not understand how this is so difficult for people to understand


If Indy offered that deal he would be going there

 

[Smitty93]

Also, the Charlotte Hornets have lost their freakin' minds.

I'm having a hell of a time blaming Ainge for MJ going insane.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Saw Giles from Sac is a FA it was mentioned he and Tatum have a connection.

 

[N o o d l e s]

let’s the hornets waive him then maybe sign him for vet min

I like the millsap idea.

Millsap would be awesome, wanted him for years. Guy can still play

 

[CDJ]

He wanted to go home. Absolutely would have. Ainge f***ed this up royalty. There is no other way to spin this

He would have...if Indy offered 4/120


Which they didn’t.


Just looking for excuses to bitch about Ainge

 

[N o o d l e s]

I do not understand how this is so difficult for people to understand


If Indy offered that deal he would be going there

And this should have been done before UFA and that Charlotte offer never even happens. No other team was offering him anything close

 

[Gator Mike]

let’s the hornets waive him then maybe sign him for vet min

I like the millsap idea.

Not the player he once was, but there's still gas left in the tank. He's also a perfect fit for Brad's system.

 

[CDJ]

Saw Giles from Sac is a FA it was mentioned he and Tatum have a connection.

still plenty of upside

 

[CDJ]

And this should have been done before UFA and that Charlotte offer never even happens. No other team was offering him anything close

why would a team trade for him when he can opt out and look at other offers like he fully intended on doing?


Playing in Indy clearly didn’t matter THAT much to him so he definitely would’ve looked around for a better deal. I mean he just chose a non contender over them

 

[Troublesome 85]

Friend of Tatum, still young and a former 1st rounder.



Theis Williams Giles at the 4/5

 

[N o o d l e s]

why would a team trade for him when he can opt out and look at other offers like he fully intended on doing?


Playing in Indy clearly didn’t matter THAT much too him so he definitely would’ve looked around for a better deal. I mean he just chose a non contender over them

If the match was Indiana then that’s what they should have done. Maybe I’m getting distracted by the report of how much more they were asking for on top of Turner and if that rumor was even true.

It seems to me like Ainge was asking for too much when he wasn’t in a position to do so and lost Hayward for nothing

 

[Gator Mike]

So...

Paul Millsap with the Mid-Level Exception...

...Harry Giles with the Bi-Annual Exception...

...and the return of Isaiah Thomas on a veteran minimum deal?

 

[CDJ]

If the match was Indiana then that’s what they should have done. Maybe I’m getting distracted by the report of how much more they were asking for on top of Turner and if that rumor was even true.

It seems to me like Ainge was asking for too much when he wasn’t in a position to do so and lost Hayward for nothing

thats only the case if Indy moved on because of Ainge, and I have a hard time believing that over”Charlotte is just being a moron franchise and offered way more than everybody else with a guaranteed 4th year”

At the end of the day there is only so much you can do when the hornets come around and act a fool

 

[N o o d l e s]

thats only the case if Indy moved on because of Ainge, and I have a hard time believing that over Charlotte is just a moron franchise and offered way more than everybody else with a guaranteed 4th year

But if that’s the case I’m surprised he picked Charlotte. Maybe we’ll find out soon but I’d be shocked if he had multiple $30m offers in hand. Seems like he dropped his interest in Indiana over a huge, unexpected contract, which who can blame him?

 

[KrejciMVP]

I didn't expect a return bc he a JAG while he was here. Could be the biggest bust signing in celtics history

 

[CDJ]

But if that’s the case I’m surprised he picked Charlotte. Maybe we’ll find out soon but I’d be shocked if he had multiple $30m offers in hand. Seems like he dropped his interest in Indiana over a huge, unexpected contract, which who can blame him?

that’s pretty much where I’m at

I can’t be angry at Hayward for leaving for that. And I’m definitely happy the Celtics didn’t match.

they had signed Hayward before as an RFA so they clearly like the guy

Wouldn’t shock me if Charlotte offered the longest term AND AAV

if they stretch batum it’s basically 40 mill a year