Prospect Info: NYR Prospect Poll: #19

[Beacon]

Steven Fogarty won round 17. Dany Kristo is added to the poll.

Please write who you want added to the poll, and give a reason for it. This makes the discussion here more lively.


THE RULES

WHO IS A PROSPECT: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/whatmakesaprospect

HOW TO RANK PROSPECTS: Based on their value in a hypothetical trade or waiver draft. This takes into consideration a prospect's ceiling, how close he's to making it, his health, work ethic, the whole deal. Imagine there was a prospect waiver draft and you could keep only one prospect. That guy is our #1 prospect. Then imagine we had one more waiver protection. That guy is our #2 prospect.


TOP PROSPECTS

1. LW/RW Anthony Duclair
2. C Kevin Hayes
3. LW/RW Pavel Buchnevich
4. D Brady Skjei
5. RW Jesper Fast


SECOND TIER

6. C Oscar Lindberg
7. D Dylan McIlrath
8. G Igor Shesterkin
9. D Ryan Graves
10. G Brandon Halverson
11. C Adam Tambellini
12. G Mackenzie Skapski
13. D Conor Allen
14. RW Ryan Haggerty
15. LW Marek Hrivik
16. C Cristoval Nieves


PROJECTS & SUSPECTS

17. RW Richard Nejezchleb
18. C Steven Fogarty


Steven Fogarty
Center -- shoots R
Born Apr 19 1993 -- Edina, MN
Height 6.03 -- Weight 207

2014-15 Notre Dame H-East 28 6 10 16 4PIM

PROSPECTS ELIGIBLE TO BE ADDED

Andersson, Calle
Bodie, Matt
Bourque, Ryan
Donnay, Troy
Iverson, Keegan
Kantor, Michael
McCarthy, Chris
Missiaen, Jason
Nicholls, Josh
Noreau, Samuel
St. Croix, Michael

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[Beacon]

Voted for Hughes who has done more in the AHL already than most of these guys ever will. A top-4 AHLer at the age of 22 deserves to be up there finally.

Add Sam Noreau. Big defensemen take longer than anyone, except goalies, to develop so it's no shame for him to still be in the ECHL. In fact, unlike guys like Donnay, Walcott, etc, he did not need an overager season and went straight to the pros (and yes, the ECHL is a superior league to the Canadian Juniors). The guy is actually tougher than McIlrath. A bit slow, but a huge punishing crease-clearing defenseman is valuable even if he's just a #6D.

 

[Beacon]

We really should be very careful with overagers. Unless they absolutely dominate in their overager season, they tend to be ECHLers. Chris Chappell was about the same size as Richard Nejezchleb, had similar offensive product, was tougher, better defensively... and couldn't even keep up in the AHL. There are a ton of these examples to the point where Chris Chappell is very much the rule and not the exception.

Overagers who become successful NHLers usually dominate in the OA season, and even then they are just as likely to become minor leaguers as NHLers. Look at Callahan - he scored almost a goal a game (52 in 62) in the regular season and had almost two points per game in the playoffs. All this plus a tremendous overall game. I remember going to the Rangers preseason game the September after he left Guelph and my first impression was, "this kid can't possibly keep up this pace"... and yet he did just that his whole career. So between Cally's defense, leadership, hustle and offensive skill, he was just a dominant junior player in his OA season.

Being merely "good" in your OA year means you will be in the ECHL or at most you'll be an ok player in the AHL. You are older than everyone and if you hope to make the NHL, you need to also be more talented than the vast majority of the league. The combination of age and talent should make you dominant, not merely good.

 

[darko]

Hughes, add Noreau

 

[nyr2k2]

Zamorsky, add Bourque.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Walcott. Add Noreau.

 

[E-Train]

Walcott, add Noreau

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Walcott, add Bourque.

 

[NYR Viper]

Hughes add Donnay

 

[FLYLine27*]

This is kinda silly....Kristo should definitely be ahead of a bunch of a few guys already on.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Z for me.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

This is kinda silly....Kristo should definitely be ahead of a bunch of a few guys already on.

On the poll? Sure. Actually on the list? Nah. Dude's been a ****** AHL version of Carl Hagelin without the defense or the skating.

 

[Joey Bones]

Hughes add Donnay

 

[Beacon]

Without signing prospects we didn't draft, we'd have a pretty weak group.

1. LW/RW Anthony Duclair
2. LW/RW Pavel Buchnevich
3. D Brady Skjei
4. RW Jesper Fast
5. C Oscar Lindberg
6. D Dylan McIlrath
7. G Igor Shesterkin
8. D Ryan Graves
9. G Brandon Halverson
10. C Adam Tambellini
11. G Mackenzie Skapski
12. C Cristoval Nieves
13. RW Richard Nejezchleb
14. C Steven Fogarty
15. D Daniel Walcott
16. RW Dany Kristo
17. D Tyler Nanne
18. D Sam Noreau
19. LW Ryan Bourque
20. C Keegan Iverson
21. C Calle Andersson
22. C Michael St. Croix


Only 22 prospects in the entire system and not top heavy either.

 

[bernmeister]

Hughes add Donnay

This ^ and Calle Anderson.

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So why Fogarty? Granted he's rebounded a bit, but still..

And Kristo? like what gives?

 

[LeetchisGod]

Kristo will never play for this team. He's pushing 25 and by all accounts pretty mediocre in the ahl.

 

[Cassano]

Kristo will never play for this team. He's pushing 25 and by all accounts pretty mediocre in the ahl.

Same with Bork.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Same with Bork.

Agreed.

 

[nyr2k2]

Kristo will never play for this team. He's pushing 25 and by all accounts pretty mediocre in the ahl.

And yet, he has likely accomplished more at the AHL level than any of the remaining guys to be added ever will.

 

[Net Front Presence]

Hughes. Add Noreau.

 

[Radek27]

Kristo, add Bourque

 

[mti79]

Kristo. Add Nicholls. I'm the only one holding out hope that the kid can at least be productive in Hartford.

 

[Beacon]

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