Nyquist's future

[Nordic*]

Seems like his development has pretty much stopped. Thoughts?

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[Pavels Dog]

Could be worse fates than ending up a 25-30 goals + 25-30 assists player.

That said he is 26, not 36. So he could still find ways to improve and become better overall player. Obviously the playoffs is where he needs to find ways to contribute more, that's his biggest hurdle right now.

 

[BinCookin]

Seems like his development has pretty much stopped. Thoughts?

He is a 4th round pick. He has Exceeded expectations. If all our 3rd and 4th rounders could do this....

I am not going to complain about a "gift" top 6 player.

 

[Outl4w]

When you realize he makes less than David Bolland and Clarkson you will smile.

 

[InjuredChoker]

i think what we saw last season is pretty much what he is going to be for the rest of his career. around 55-60 points per season for his prime. some years less, some years a bit more. average at best all around game.

 

[dangledangledeke]

One thing I've noticed when I did some fact checking last season is Red Wing prospects tend to hit their primes around 28 years old. That differs from the rest of the league who hits their offensive primes around 23-26. Probably due to the long development path the Wings use. If I recall, there was only 1 player - Henrik Zetterberg - who didn't follow that path (Without checking, I believe his offensive prime was around 22?).

As for Nyquist, I'm still optimistic he finds another step in his game. He has the Hockey IQ. He has been dynamite at every level in his career. The realist in me says he will settle in at around a 55-60 point player though. With how low scoring is around the league, that should be looked at positively.

 

[Retire91]

Last season was his first full season in the NHL.

 

[DanZ]

One thing I've noticed when I did some fact checking last season is Red Wing prospects tend to hit their primes around 28 years old. That differs from the rest of the league who hits their offensive primes around 23-26. Probably due to the long development path the Wings use. If I recall, there was only 1 player - Henrik Zetterberg - who didn't follow that path (Without checking, I believe his offensive prime was around 22?).

As for Nyquist, I'm still optimistic he finds another step in his game. He has the Hockey IQ. He has been dynamite at every level in his career. The realist in me says he will settle in at around a 55-60 point player though. With how low scoring is around the league, that should be looked at positively.

Zetteberg's best offensive seasons were 25-28. His peak was at 27. He was a rookie at 22.

 

[Frk It]

Seems like his development has pretty much stopped. Thoughts?

But based on what... ?

 

[dangledangledeke]

Zetteberg's best offensive seasons were 25-28. His peak was at 27. He was a rookie at 22.

Oops, correct. It was someone else then. It's been almost a year since I did the research. Should've written a blog post about it just to cite.

But, that does add evidence to what I was stating, Red Wing primes are later than most NHL players.

 

[SoupNazi]

Seems like his development has pretty much stopped. Thoughts?

On what do you base this notion?

 

[DanZ]

Oops, correct. It was someone else then. It's been almost a year since I did the research. Should've written a blog post about it just to cite.

But, that does add evidence to what I was stating, Red Wing primes are later than most NHL players.

Maybe Yzerman? His peak offensive year was at 23.

Your right though, almost all Wings' prospects in the last 25 years have hit their prime post-25 years of age. Larkin might be an exception starting at 19.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Most forwards do hit their offensive peaks somewhere around Nyquist's age, but I'd be curious to see what he does this year before I'd say anything is conclusive.

 

[Claypool]

Seems like his development has pretty much stopped. Thoughts?

What are you basing this on? Seems fine to me.

 

[Tatar]

It took Zetterberg a couple years and more responsibility to break out as a star. Nyquist will do the same

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Seems like his development has pretty much stopped. Thoughts?

Seems like you're the stereotypical Red Wings fan who isn't happy unless he's unhappy.

Nyquists development is fine. That's why they paid him 4.75 over four years.

 

[TheMule93]

Seems like you're the stereotypical Red Wings fan who isn't happy unless he's unhappy.

Nyquists development is fine. That's why they paid him 4.75 over four years.

Uhhhh what? How is he complaining or unhappy ? He made an observation that Nyquist appears to have stopped improving. It's still early in the season, but I agree with him at this point

 

[WingedWheel1987]

From an offensive standpoint, i don't expect his game to develop any further. 50-60ish point winger. Now he just needs to improve his two way game, which is something he is definitely capable of doing.

 

[Retire91]

I wouldn't get our panties in a bunch much. Its probably just a fantasy related probe on what Nyquist's ceiling is. It seems at worst his development tops off as a 60ish points winger and that is pretty darn good if you ask me. If his development is done he is still a great player.

 

[Shaman464]

This season he's been very ineffective. He falls down a lot, he seems to be chasing the play, and he tries to get way too fancy.

 

[Pavels Dog]

This season he's been very ineffective. He falls down a lot, he seems to be chasing the play, and he tries to get way too fancy.

"very ineffective" = on pace for 30+ goals and 50 points.

 

[JPE123]

I think a lot of guys have unrealistic expectations of Gus. If he continues to score 25-30 goals and 25-30 assists he is a great asset. My only concern with Gus is he seems to get knocked off the puck too easy. Then he tries to get too cute. But he is a solid weapon. About 15 guys I am more concerned with

 

[johnnyarmstrong]

he is averaging less than 15 minutes a game, and he has 3 points. He is fine.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Seems like his development has pretty much stopped. Thoughts?

Not sure what you're basing this on, He's looked pretty good to me these last two seasons.

 

[Shaman464]

"very ineffective" = on pace for 30+ goals and 50 points.

And Pulkks is on course for 50 goals, doesn't mean you aren't complaining about him constantly.