Player Discussion Nylander After the Contract

[notDatsyuk]

The first game after he signed he got 3 assists, then went four games without a point.

Since then he has 16G and 15A in 25 games, a 1.24 ppg pace. He is 12th in the league in points over that span, and only seven players have scored more goals. He's second on the team in goals, assists, points, and GWGs, and tied for the lead in points on both the PP and the PK.

He's also fourth on the team in shooting % (19.3%), behind Matthews, McCabe, and Reaves, all at 20%.

 

[ACC1224]

The first game after he signed he got 3 assists, then went four games without a point.

Since then he has 16G and 15A in 25 games, a 1.24 ppg pace. He is 12th in the league in points over that span, and only seven players have scored more goals. He's second on the team in goals, assists, points, and GWGs, and tied for the lead in points on both the PP and the PK.

He's also fourth on the team in shooting % (19.3%), behind Matthews, McCabe, and Reaves, all at 20%.

Yep, no question he's having a great offensive year.

 

[mclaren55]

The first game after he signed he got 3 assists, then went four games without a point.

Since then he has 16G and 15A in 25 games, a 1.24 ppg pace. He is 12th in the league in points over that span, and only seven players have scored more goals. He's second on the team in goals, assists, points, and GWGs, and tied for the lead in points on both the PP and the PK.

He's also fourth on the team in shooting % (19.3%), behind Matthews, McCabe, and Reaves, all at 20%.

So what I'm taking away from this is we need Reaves to shoot more.

 

[Menzinger]

The 40 goal mark in reach any game now. Currently on pace for 45ish on the season.

 

[thusk]

they are 2 version of nylander but the nylabder we saw tonight is the nylander i want to see in playoff. He's working hard tonight and his work on backcheck gave him his goal tonight.

I want to see this guy, not the one whos constsntly trying to chest for offensive opportunities

they are 2 version of nylander but the nylabder we saw tonight is the nylander i want to see in playoff. He's working hard tonight and his work on backcheck gave him his goal tonight.

I want to see this guy, not the one whos constsntly trying to chest for offensive opportunities

 

[cipher]

they are 2 version of nylander but the nylabder we saw tonight is the nylander i want to see in playoff. He's working hard tonight and his work on backcheck gave him his goal tonight.

I want to see this guy, not the one whos constsntly trying to chest for offensive opportunities

they are 2 version of nylander but the nylabder we saw tonight is the nylander i want to see in playoff. He's working hard tonight and his work on backcheck gave him his goal tonight.

I want to see this guy, not the one whos constsntly trying to chest for offensive opportunities

You can say that again.

 

[leafsfan5]

Excited to see how dominant he'll be in the playoffs, this is the best he's ever looked and he usually doesn't drop off come playoff time so I'm expecting great things

 

[ZEBROA]

Hope he reach 100 and dont slump these lasting games.

 

[thusk]

Excited to see how dominant he'll be in the playoffs, this is the best he's ever looked and he usually doesn't drop off come playoff time so I'm expecting great things

this part is not true because his lack of work defensive side almost cost tampa series last year and he actually had only 1 5v5 goal in his last 21 game but i'm totally agree if he playing like he did last night it would be a great news for leafs. Leafs will need that nylander in playoff

 

[thewave]

this part is not true because his lack of work defensive side almost cost tampa series last year and he actually had only 1 5v5 goal in his last 21 game but i'm totally agree if he playing like he did last night it would be a great news for leafs. Leafs will need that nylander in playoff

It was broken down here on HFBoards with data. He stays the exact same for point production in the reg season vs po.

I could point to a lot of things that almost cost us series over the past several years including putting the puck over the boards and drastic drops in production in elimination games by higher paid players.

Nylander should have only been paid between 9-10m but compared to his higher paid peers, he gets what he gets vs the internal comparable

 

[thusk]

It was broken down here on HFBoards with data. He stays the exact same for point production in the reg season vs po.

I could point to a lot of things that almost cost us series over the past several years including putting the puck over the boards and drastic drops in production in elimination games by higher paid players.

Nylander should have only been paid between 9-10m but compared to his higher paid peers, he gets what he gets vs the internal comparable

nylander had been on the ice for 56% of every 5v5 tampa goal.( 9 of 16 if i remember) 5 or 6 of those goal could be avoid.

Remove 1 goal of each game just with 1 player playing harder.. gm 3 a 3-2 win unstead of 4-3 ot. gm 5 4-3 unstead 5-4 ot sin, gm 5 2-2 and goes on ot unstead of losing 4-2 with empty net gm 6, 1-0 win unstead of 2-1...

its not the same serie at all...

 

[thewave]

nylander had been on the ice for 56% of every 5v5 tampa goal.( 9 of 16 if i remember) 5 or 6 of those goal could be avoid.

Remove 1 goal of each game just with 1 player playing harder.. gm 3 a 3-2 win unstead of 4-3 ot. gm 5 4-3 unstead 5-4 ot sin, gm 5 2-2 and goes on ot unstead of losing 4-2 with empty net gm 6, 1-0 win unstead of 2-1...

its not the same serie at all...

So? Its not his fault Keefe is a horrible coach that cant out coach any of his opponents. He is awful and cant even gain an advantage on home ice half the time. Most common complaint on HFBoards is Keefes lines until Nylander comes up and then he is suddenly the cause and singled out.

Boring lazy uninspired and patently wrong take.

 

[notDatsyuk]

So? Its not his fault Keefe is a horrible coach that cant out coach any of his opponents. He is awful and cant even gain an advantage on home ice half the time. Most common complaint on HFBoards is Keefes lines until Nylander comes up and then he is suddenly the cause and singled out.

Boring lazy uninspired and patently wrong take.

It's a waste of time. He has this weird obsession with Nylander that makes him ignore whatever doesn't support his view, and blame Willy for things that aren't his fault in threads that aren't even about him.

Sure, Willy was on for a lot of Tampa's goals, but at least two were situations where he came on for Mitch and had no chance to get involved in the play. +/- is not a great stat, particularly in very small samples, but he clings to it when it's all he has.

Of course this is a thread about Willy post-signing, where he's still one of the best players in the league, but some people can't be happy unless they are miserable.

 

[ULF_55]

IMO goal of the game (March 20, 2024) was Nylander's from backcheck to his own net disrupting a tap in to top shelf other end.

He's had prettier goals, but that should almost count as 2.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Yep been dogshit for a few weeks. Willie is an all or less than nothing type guy. He is either a superstar or barely a replacement player. If he is not scoring he is utterly useless. He has no interest in playing D, he has no interest in doing anything but having all the glory. If he is not scoring he is on par with the impact Reaves brings.

He's scoring very consistently though and unlike our other high priced bellhops, he keeps up his production in the playoffs. He also seems to be able to score no matter who he's playing with, guy's an offensive dynamo. He's also much better defensively than he used to be, still not great but nowhere near as bad as some people are making it out to be.

He was on a 117 point pace when he signed. Now needs 12 points in 15 games to hit 100. Sure, maybe Tavares has something to do with it, but pre contract Willie was a beast. Post contract Willie is a slightly better version of the same old Willie.

Waiting to see which Willie shows up in round #1.

I think he's on pace for 110 now, not bad at all. Still leads the team in scoring (which is pretty amazing considering we have M&M playing with each other on the team) and still top 10 in scoring across the league. Yup, not bad at all.

 

[ULF_55]

I think he's on pace for 110 now, not bad at all. Still leads the team in scoring (which is pretty amazing considering we have M&M playing with each other on the team) and still top 10 in scoring across the league. Yup, not bad at all.

Top 10 (9th.) in even strength points.
Be interesting to see who he played with for those points.
Matthews is 5th. in even strength points.

 

[ZEBROA]

I think he's on pace for 110 now, not bad at all. Still leads the team in scoring (which is pretty amazing considering we have M&M playing with each other on the team) and still top 10 in scoring across the league. Yup, not bad at all

Not bad for a 7mill player...
I wonder how many points he would have playing with Marner, dont know how there styles match , it has not been tried out on purpose what i can remember. Not for many games at least.

 

[sunstersun]

He just produces without the best goal scorer this generation as his centre. The only true triple threat option we have on the team.

 

[ACC1224]

He just produces without the best goal scorer this generation as his centre. The only true triple threat option we have on the team.

Triple threat?

 

[sunstersun]

Triple threat?

Shoot, pass, deke/skate around.

 

[I am Canadian]

Performing like a 11.5M player imo.

Always proves his doubters wrong

 

[thusk]

So? Its not his fault Keefe is a horrible coach that cant out coach any of his opponents. He is awful and cant even gain an advantage on home ice half the time. Most common complaint on HFBoards is Keefes lines until Nylander comes up and then he is suddenly the cause and singled out.

Boring lazy uninspired and patently wrong take.

Nylander had been trash against Tampa, its just a fact.

he was most better vs florida and its not even close, its a fact.

he scored only 1 goal in his 21 game at 5v5, its a fact.

we can blame coach all day long and switch coach whatever you want, that will change absolutly nothing until leafs core decide together to carry this team. Leafs gonna need the nylander we saw last night and not the guy whos only appear on pp and 4v4.

how many energy leafs lost when they was trailing and need to double shift your top player because they needed goal and start to cut your bench. start to see player like matthews after 7-8 game drop too much.

Its what making difference in playoff. If everyone player at 100% resulting with leafs allowing less goal, it will be easier to rest leafs core to keep them fresh during the run and everybody will be better.



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[notDatsyuk]

Nylander had been trash against Tampa, its just a fact.

he was most better vs florida and its not even close, its a fact.

he scored only 1 goal in his 21 game at 5v5, its a fact.

we can blame coach all day long and switch coach whatever you want, that will change absolutly nothing until leafs core decide together to carry this team. Leafs gonna need the nylander we saw last night and not the guy whos only appear on pp and 4v4.

how many energy leafs lost when they was trailing and need to double shift your top player because they needed goal and start to cut your bench. start to see player like matthews after 7-8 game drop too much.

Its what making difference in playoff. If everyone player at 100% resulting with leafs allowing less goal, it will be easier to rest leafs core to keep them fresh during the run and everybody will be better.



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Sure, Willy was on for a lot of Tampa's goals, but at least two were situations where he came on for Mitch and had no chance to get involved in the play. +/- is not a great stat, particularly in very small samples.

Of course this is a thread about Willy post-signing, where he's still one of the best players in the league, but I guess you missed that.

 

[thusk]

Sure, Willy was on for a lot of Tampa's goals, but at least two were situations where he came on for Mitch and had no chance to get involved in the play. +/- is not a great stat, particularly in very small samples.

Of course this is a thread about Willy post-signing, where he's still one of the best players in the league, but I guess you missed that.

1-i never said nylander is not a great player or anything like this. He a great player when he was playing like he did last night not how he played most of the time against tampa

2-nylander had been on the ice a 5v5 8 time and 8 at even strenght... 3-4 of those goal nylander cant do nothing. I count 5 of those goal where he could help and avoid it and 4 he was his mistake. 2 of those was lack of work, 2 he did pretty bad read and didn't cover the the right player/ area... 4 goal happened because of his defensive work, he got 2 assist at 5v5 in tampa series. Watch it the way you want, at 5v4 he was not good at all. He was nothing else than a pp specialist with basically a negative impact at 5v5.

thats not making him a bad player but only a player who can bring more to leafs than what he did at 5v5. He cant only start to play in pp, 4v4, 6v5 or after a round if leafs win it.

i just put you an exemple of what im talking about.


Green where he should go on that play
Red where he finally gone ( on 1st one only)and the result on 2nd picture and in red whats thats created. Its exemple of 2 goal who could easily be avoid by Nylander.

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

It was broken down here on HFBoards with data. He stays the exact same for point production in the reg season vs po.

I could point to a lot of things that almost cost us series over the past several years including putting the puck over the boards and drastic drops in production in elimination games by higher paid players.

Nylander should have only been paid between 9-10m but compared to his higher paid peers, he gets what he gets vs the internal comparable

Uh oh...."You know who" just perked up his ears over that part of your post. Expect deft stick handling to commence any minute now....You were warned my friend...you were warned. We never use internal team comparable metrics around here...