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Playmaka
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It's amazing how S.Smith seems to get these guys to play good D no matter who is on what pair. Rod obviously helping in the dots and you can see Peters system in place....who is in charge of offense PP? Maybe we need a 4th coach?
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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It's amazing how S.Smith seems to get these guys to play good D no matter who is on what pair. Rod obviously helping in the dots and you can see Peters system in place....who is in charge of offense PP? Maybe we need a 4th coach?

Brindy is in charge of the pp. Maybe the just need more skill
 

VoodooChile

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At least they got featured on the front page.

Not the best of publicity -- seems like a little stunt of sorts. But it's publicity.
 

Burrowsaurus

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What's up. Sens fan here. Gonna admit guilty of not see many of your games this year. Wondering about Jeff skinner. Is he available at all? Or is he untouchable right now. Noticed he's having a pretty good year
 

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What's up. Sens fan here. Gonna admit guilty of not see many of your games this year. Wondering about Jeff skinner. Is he available at all? Or is he untouchable right now. Noticed he's having a pretty good year

23 yr old shifty goalscorer who has improved his defensive game (via takeaways and stickplay) and his passing has improved....our offensive prospects are not so hot...no real reason to trade him.
 

tarheelhockey

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The N&O article is actually pretty legit from a journalistic standpoint, with lots of good info and relevant quotes.

Just a weird time to publish it, with the news around the team mostly positive. Seems almost like a cheap shot to run it on the front page the day after a big win.
 

Burrowsaurus

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23 yr old shifty goalscorer who has improved his defensive game (via takeaways and stickplay) and his passing has improved....our offensive prospects are not so hot...no real reason to trade him.

Yeah Guess that's what i thought. We are looking for a young top 6 winger and I thought he had gone a bit cold last season and a bit. I was wrong.

How's hanifin been? He was my favorite 2015 draftee after the big 2.
 

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The N&O article is actually pretty legit from a journalistic standpoint, with lots of good info and relevant quotes.

Just a weird time to publish it, with the news around the team mostly positive. Seems almost like a cheap shot to run it on the front page the day after a big win.

It was a very cheap shot. I think since the Panthers just had a historic year, they took that as an opportunity to take a shot at the Hurricanes. The Hurricanes are the only NC pro team to win a championship, so does that make the Panthers & Hornets irrelevant?
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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While on the surface, it seems like a cheap shot and bad time to publish it, from a business standpoint, it's probably the perfect time to publish it. It's kind of a deadzone in sports right now. Football is over, baseball is still months away, Nascar doesn't kick off "officially" for another week and Basketball is about 2/3rds into the season and won't get "meaningful" for another month or so.

With the cup celebration and the Canes playing well for a couple of months and playing meaningful games this late in the season for the first time in years, there is probably more interest in the Canes now than there has been in a long time. Newspapers are becoming dinosaurs in that they are struggling to maintain relevancy themselves so if you want people to read and react to your story, this was probably the best time to put it out there.
 

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While on the surface, it seems like a cheap shot and bad time to publish it, from a business standpoint, it's probably the perfect time to publish it. It's kind of a deadzone in sports right now. Football is over, baseball is still months away, Nascar doesn't kick off "officially" for another week and Basketball is about 2/3rds into the season and won't get "meaningful" for another month or so.

With the cup celebration and the Canes playing well for a couple of months and playing meaningful games this late in the season for the first time in years, there is probably more interest in the Canes now than there has been in a long time. Newspapers are becoming dinosaurs in that they are struggling to maintain relevancy themselves so if you want people to read and react to your story, this was probably the best time to put it out there.

It was the perfect time, except that it led me to finally get off my ass and cancel my subscription. **** them.
 

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The N&O article is actually pretty legit from a journalistic standpoint, with lots of good info and relevant quotes.

Just a weird time to publish it, with the news around the team mostly positive. Seems almost like a cheap shot to run it on the front page the day after a big win.
Agreed on the first part and the timing wasn't arbitrary given the anniversary weekend. Fairly basic then and now reflective piece and it didn't stray from the facts.

I didn't see it as cheap shot, and it was a feature piece scheduled to run regardless of whether the Canes had a good weekend or not. Getting 3 of 4 points doesn't make them relevant regardless of a temporary, manufactured shot of enthusiasm for the fan base.
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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It was the perfect time, except that it led me to finally get off my ass and cancel my subscription. **** them.

:laugh: True. I suspect you are probably the exception and not the rule though for their subscription base (unfortunately), but even so, newpapers really can't afford to lose any subscriptions right now.
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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Isn't the N&O Parent company, and much of it's content, editing, etc. actually done out of Charlotte anyway?

I thought their parent company was headquartered in California. Not sure about where any editing is done though.

EDIT: Yep, McClatchy Company says it's HQ is Sacramento.

Indicative of the entire newspaper industry, take a look at their stock. Reached a high of $75 about 10 years ago and gave a regular quarterly dividend up until 2009. Now, it trades at $0.90.
 
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RodTheBawd

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The article itself wasn't that bad, but front page with that headline? It's like clickbait gone physical.
 

Stickpucker

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Yeah Guess that's what i thought. We are looking for a young top 6 winger and I thought he had gone a bit cold last season and a bit. I was wrong.

How's hanifin been? He was my favorite 2015 draftee after the big 2.

Hanny has been skating really well and showing signs of trying to develop his offensive game.

He looks a little frustrated at times but i won't speculate as to why.
 

Joe McGrath

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Hanny has been skating really well and showing signs of trying to develop his offensive game.

He looks a little frustrated at times but i won't speculate as to why.

It's probably frustrating to not be the best player on the ice every time you are out there when you have been 99.9% of the time your entire life.
 

Navin R Slavin

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:laugh: True. I suspect you are probably the exception and not the rule though for their subscription base (unfortunately), but even so, newpapers really can't afford to lose any subscriptions right now.

I can tell you that it was exceptionally satisfying.

"But you've been a customer for 16 years!" "Yeah, that was my mistake."
 

Novacane

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I'm kind of sad about newspapers going out because I'm much more likely to read a physical copy of something than anything I see online
 

tarheelhockey

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Agreed on the first part and the timing wasn't arbitrary given the anniversary weekend. Fairly basic then and now reflective piece and it didn't stray from the facts.

I didn't see it as cheap shot, and it was a feature piece scheduled to run regardless of whether the Canes had a good weekend or not. Getting 3 of 4 points doesn't make them relevant regardless of a temporary, manufactured shot of enthusiasm for the fan base.

Yeah, the more I think about it, I think we're just reacting emotionally as fans here. It's not like it was a fluff piece, the reporter did a good job on the topic and it was as relevant now as it would have been a month ago or a month in the future.
 

Finnish Jerk Train

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I agree that it was mostly factual. The only quibble I have from that perspective is the headline: the use of the term "relevant" in this context is pretty subjective and basically immeasurable. Ticket sales can and have been affected by other factors, as mentioned in the article. Of course, the article writer isn't usually the headline writer (or so I've heard), so I can forgive him for that. The guy didn't inject opinions or make any unsubstantiated leaps. You could say that bringing up relocation insinuates that it might happen, fairly or not. But it is a rumor that has swirled from time to time, so it's not out of line to mention it in this kind of piece.

Basically, I thought it was a good read for people who haven't been paying attention over the last few years. It gets them up to speed on the team's fortunes (or lack thereof) since the Cup run. However, those are the only people who would have learned anything they didn't already know. There was no real news anywhere in the article.

Furthermore, the timing and manner in which it was published definitely represents a calculated move on the N&O's part. There was nothing in the article that could be considered front-page news; it was a report written by a business writer on how the facts and figures of the team have changed in the last 10 years. That kind of piece could have been published at any old time on page 6 of pretty much any section of the newspaper. Putting it on the front page during a big event celebrating past success was a deliberate jab; I'm just not sure what their angle is.
 

Navin R Slavin

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Yeah, the more I think about it, I think we're just reacting emotionally as fans here. It's not like it was a fluff piece, the reporter did a good job on the topic and it was as relevant now as it would have been a month ago or a month in the future.

Nope. The headline was a deliberate cheap shot and it was placed on the front page ABOVE THE FOLD. Note that they actually softened the headline of the online version after they got called out.

This was real life click bait, targeted to the old fossils that still *might* buy their ****** fish wrap.

**** them.
 

Clark Gillies

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It was a very cheap shot. I think since the Panthers just had a historic year, they took that as an opportunity to take a shot at the Hurricanes. The Hurricanes are the only NC pro team to win a championship, so does that make the Panthers & Hornets irrelevant?

I hadn't realized that they were no longer the Bobcats, so I guess they are irrelevant.
 

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