Brad Holland needs to be fired as well. Spare me the "muh analytics". We started with zero analytics literally anything is a level up on that.
That piece of shit Bob Nicholson should be banned from Rogers.
Its playoffs. Skinner has never been the best guy, not either postseason, and not even close and the vast majority of starts he gets goalied by the other guy.
Cmon man you just proved my point. The top line has been garbage so switch it up and put Mcdavid with Drai
Going for a job interview with another team while your current organization and the team you constructed is in an absolute dog fight in the playoffs is kind of a slap in the face imo.
People wonder why I stopped giving this org any of my money decades ago. Its a corrupt org that makes poor decisions with little due process or evaluation.
Not what people would expect me to say but Nuge is playing smarter hockey than McD is. Making better decisions, being more responsible positionally. My critique of Nuge is he can make more of a difference and isn't cashing. But the best player in the world only has 2 goals and is shooting worse and making worse plays and being more out of position, and well, being responsible for more GA.
The other thing is that some team will actually line up and pay the guy to have some GM that looks asleep all the time, this is too old to even care or have all the energy it takes to carefully manage an org. The guys hasn't had it for decades and still gets the big money based on Detroit Halcyon that either did or didn't have a lot to do with him.
I think it's fair to point out that Gretzky had elite forwards Kurri, Messier, and Anderson in the playoffs which gave the defenders more to worry about than just him. McDavid has Drai and no one else who could be considered anything more than average.
I still see lots of fans jumping up and down with excitement but it sure isn't like it used to be.
Exactly. It’s mad disrespectful not only to the fans, but especially to the coaches and the players mainly the core that spent the last 5 years with him believing his bullshit on helping them win a cup.
Hyman just came off a 54 goal season and has 9 in playoffs. Of the two Drai has worse linemates and still produces. Its an excuse. Drai even makes Holloway happen, He makes even McLeod happen, currently he's the only one making Kane happen. Fact of the matter is Drai can get more out of ordinary players than McD can. Nor are Nuge or Hyman ordinary.I think it's fair to point out that Gretzky had elite forwards Kurri, Messier, and Anderson in the playoffs which gave the defenders more to worry about than just him. McDavid has Drai and no one else who could be considered anything more than average.
This season, though, McDavid has become only an assist guy and that's on him. If everyone knows that you're going to pass it's much easier to defend against. He's taking so long to shoot this year that even Skinner could stop him
The damage like what exactly? When Holland arrived we were a perrenial bottom feeder. He turned us into a perennial playoff team. I know which I prefer
We're heavily mortaged our future for what was not even a serious run. We have limiited prospects have given away a lot of futures picks and the team has only gotten old, real old. Oldest NHL team in league at present.
believe whatever narrative or at least claim to believe in any narrative you wish
Holland made a lot of mistakes...some of those mistakes will have long term consequences.
All that being said he did more in 5 years than any GM did in the last two decades. I get the Nurse and Campbell deals are horrid but every team deals with bad contracts every single one. His drafting was absolutely sub par. But again we were a bottom feeder and became a perennial playoff team. We made the WCF once and the second round 3 times. Flashback to 2018 and tell me you wouldn’t take that at the time.
This is true. Gretzky had elite wingers like kurri Anderson Simpson for years. In the entirety of their careers in Edmonton we have 2 years of Zach Hyman for both mcdavid and drai.I think it's fair to point out that Gretzky had elite forwards Kurri, Messier, and Anderson in the playoffs which gave the defenders more to worry about than just him. McDavid has Drai and no one else who could be considered anything more than average.
This season, though, McDavid has become only an assist guy and that's on him. If everyone knows that you're going to pass it's much easier to defend against. He's taking so long to shoot this year that even Skinner could stop him
Of course. To add I've often stated here when our first line has the D pair of Booch and Ekholm to also work off its one of the best 5 man units in hockey. They're getting the gold D pair most of the time.
Quite right, the supporting cast for those Oiler teams back in the 80's was much stronger than what you see today.I think it's fair to point out that Gretzky had elite forwards Kurri, Messier, and Anderson in the playoffs which gave the defenders more to worry about than just him. McDavid has Drai and no one else who could be considered anything more than average.
This season, though, McDavid has become only an assist guy and that's on him. If everyone knows that you're going to pass it's much easier to defend against. He's taking so long to shoot this year that even Skinner could stop him
No Kenny Linesman or Mike Krushelniski either.
