Post-Game Talk: Not good enough.

[BlackDogg]

As we said at the beginning of the season, the team looks like they don't really like each other. Possibly too many misfits.
With that, they have no confidence even when leading a game.

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

Will Knobby make any adjustments to the lineup and bring in fresh blood? Or we continue to roll out the same old, slow, inept lineup (outside of 2 players) that continues to get shit on? Tocchet completely shit on Knobby last night with his lineup changes, his media approach. Got the best out of his star players AND his depth.

I dont think Knobby is the guy to do it in playoffs. Especially the other night when Rishaug asked him about his belief in needing to play physical, and he said he doesn't think it's a priority and that he'd rather have his team check with their "legs and sticks". He's not intense enough or has the right approach to get this team shot out of a cannon and playing balls to the walls. It's been the entire year of it pretty much.

Don't even get me started on management that did nothing to improve this roster from last year, but that's for another day.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Nobody is healthy at this time of year
It comes down to desire and professionalism now

Dude, that depends entirely how hurt you are.

Being professional might as well be sitting because you know someone else will do it better with the condition you're in.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Keep Skinner he can be a good backup.

I’m pretty sour on him. Two playoffs in a row he’s crumbled. I’d prefer for them to roll 1A and 1B. I’d deal him and McLeod to SJ for Blackwood and Kostin and in a separate deal, get a 1A like Merzlikins but if Kenny is gone to Columbus, he won’t trade with Edmonton. The goalie UFA market sucks incredible ass this season but something needs to be done.

It’s by far the weakest link on the team and Holland did nothing to address it the entire time here. I had hopes Campbell was a late bloomer but that blew up pretty fast.

 

[joestevens29]

Keep Skinner he can be a good backup.

I wonder how Skinner looks when he isn't the guy and there is less pressure?

I’m pretty sour on him. Two playoffs in a row he’s crumbled. I’d prefer for them to roll 1A and 1B. I’d deal him and McLeod to SJ for Blackwood and Kostin and in a separate deal, get a 1A like Merzlikins but if Kenny is gone to Columbus, he won’t trade with Edmonton. The goalie UFA market sucks incredible ass this season but something needs to be done.

It’s by far the weakest link on the team and Holland did nothing to address it the entire time here. I had hopes Campbell was a late bloomer but that blew up pretty fast.

Unless Campbell is going the other way I'm not touching a 30 year old Elvis with that contract.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I’m pretty sour on him. Two playoffs in a row he’s crumbled. I’d prefer for them to roll 1A and 1B. I’d deal him and McLeod to SJ for Blackwood and Kostin and in a separate deal, get a 1A like Merzlikins but if Kenny is gone to Columbus, he won’t trade with Edmonton. The goalie UFA market sucks incredible ass this season but something needs to be done.

It’s by far the weakest link on the team and Holland did nothing to address it the entire time here. I had hopes Campbell was a late bloomer but that blew up pretty fast.

Merzlikins is just an older skinner.

 

[joestevens29]

Merzlikins is just an older skinner.

I get the point that Columbus sucks so you can't look at that and say he's no good, but look at the other goalies the past two years.

Nothing suggest to me it's worth the risk of adding that salary and thinking he's an answer for any team

 

[McDeepika]

Granted I'm sure he is dealing with some type of injury but we really need the old McDavid back.

He gets into 2 on 2 situations now and always stops up at the top of the zone and looks for a trailer. We need the McDavid that attacks those situations.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Our deadline looks pathetic when u see what other teams added. Oil fail here hollands time has to be up.

Yup. Pretty much the worst deadline possible. 1 year left for a cup run now.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I wonder how Skinner looks when he isn't the guy and there is less pressure?


Unless Campbell is going the other way I'm not touching a 30 year old Elvis with that contract.

He’s got two years left at 5.4, it’s not terrible in my opinion.

Merzlikins is just an older skinner.

When Columbus had a decent defense, he put up good numbers. Goalies are just as much a product of their environment as anyone else. Look at Gibson in Anaheim…outstanding numbers when the Ducks were still a playoff team. Now that they’re shit and have a shitty defense, he’s getting lit up.

Plus he saw one of his friends die in his arms. He needs a change of scenery.

 

[jukon]

If you told me before the game that:

Kane would score
Janmark would score
Vancouver would be called for five penalties
Pickard would finish with a better save percentage than Silovs

I would have bet my life savings on the Oilers. It's a good thing I don't ever gamble.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

As we said at the beginning of the season, the team looks like they don't really like each other. Possibly too many misfits.
With that, they have no confidence even when leading a game.

lol what are u talking about?

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

The main accusation is hurt, don't think Holland could have predicted that

Henrique was Plan C. Give up a tad more and we get Buch for two years or Guentzel.

Rico wasn't moving the needle that much

 

[CupofOil]

Where's the pushback? Jesus Christ I'm tired of no physical response. Kane, Nurse, Perry, Desharnais. You guys alive?

Oilers are dumb and unlucky but man they look pathetic. Pathetic.

That's the worst of it although I disagree with Kane. If you're going to lose go down swinging, but not only were the Oilers beaten on the scoreboard and in every other hockey metric they were also bullied and were perfectly happy with getting their shit pushed in. TBH, the Canucks have been beating them up physically the entire series with Kane being pretty much the only one with the balls to fight back.

 

[CycloneSweep]

He’s got two years left at 5.4, it’s not terrible in my opinion.

When Columbus had a decent defense, he put up good numbers. Goalies are just as much a product of their environment as anyone else. Look at Gibson in Anaheim…outstanding numbers when the Ducks were still a playoff team. Now that they’re shit and have a shitty defense, he’s getting lit up.

Plus he saw one of his friends die in his arms. He needs a change of scenery.

He has had worse numbers than his backup for the last 2 years.
If you are doing a Campbell Merzlikins swap sure, but thats it.

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

Dude, that depends entirely how hurt you are.

Being professional might as well be sitting because you know someone else will do it better with the condition you're in.

Just excuses.
Champions play through all kinds of ailments without flopping around looking for calls……..dude

 

[CupofOil]

Knobs not a good coach

Mclellan not a good coach, Tippett not a good coach, Woodcroft not a good coach, Knoblauch not a good coach.
When do you guys ever tire of scapegoating the coach? It's always been a GM issue with poor roster construction and a player issue with poor mentality when the going gets tough. Yeah the Oilers always seem to hire passive coaches that make poor adjustments but they've also gotten dealt shitty hands with shallow rosters, poor defense and poor goaltending. Only so much you can do with like 5-6 legit players and a bunch of replacement level guys.
Look at the depth of the rosters of Dallas, Colorado, NYR, Carolina, Florida, Vegas etc. and look at the Oilers. It's not really that close when you go man to man down the line.

 

[Messrules11]

As we saw last night if we’re not going to hit we’re not going to win. Send McLeod into the sun and bring in Carrick.
If we had any other hitters I’d swap out Perry and Brown but we don’t, so f*** Holland once again.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Unpopular opinion on these boards, but you need to play Mcdavid and Drai together.

Mcdavid on his own line was another 5v5 no show. This happened last year vs the Knights in the playoffs.

You ride or die with your big guns and you can cut the mins if needed.

 

[BlackDogg]

lol what are u talking about?

Can't you see it? Its a team full of miscreants lol.
Half the team is worried about their moms.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

He has had worse numbers than his backup for the last 2 years.
If you are doing a Campbell Merzlikins swap sure, but thats it.

I’m just spitballing names, but I really think he’d do well in a new environment with a better team in front of him. He’s pretty frustrated with Columbus too so his give a shit meter is pretty low. I really don’t know who else is out there aside from Markstrom or Ullmark. Ullmark is at the top of my list but I doubt he waives for Edmonton. Maybe we get some history repeating itself and he does waive, then becomes our next Bill Ranford.

Wishful thinking but too many nights the Oilers have the second best goalie on the ice, especially now when the games matter more.

I just want to add Pickard has been awesome these last two games and has not been the problem.

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

McD was shit for sure but to be fair, Nucks had striped help with that

We really can’t pull that out either
We got away with a 5 and a game high stick a couple of games ago plus a pretty decent flop last night
Officiating has be brutal all around in the series

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

It's funny because Ceci played good enough last night. It was Bouchard who single handedly lost us the game.

It was Mcdavid who was bad and did nothing.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Mclellan not a good coach, Tippett not a good coach, Woodcroft not a good coach, Knoblauch not a good coach.
When do you guys ever tire of scapegoating the coach? It's always been a GM issue with poor roster construction and a player issue with poor mentality when the going gets tough. Yeah the Oilers always seem to hire passive coaches that make poor adjustments but they've also gotten dealt shitty hands with shallow rosters, poor defense and poor goaltending. Only so much you can do with like 5-6 legit players and a bunch of replacement level guys.
Look at the depth of the rosters of Dallas, Colorado, NYR, Carolina, Florida, Vegas etc. and look at the Oilers. It's not really that close when you go man to man down the line.

You mean the same GM who can't figure out a roster is hiring good coaches?
McLellan was a good fit at the start, Tippett we dragged out of retirement and didn't have the passion for the game. Woodcroft had potential but like...he tied himself to an awful d coach. Knoblauch is raw and young and maybe good be god but is an awful fit for a team at this point.
He has been awful in the playoffs and maybe he could be better in a couple years but was an awful fit for where we are.

 

[Messrules11]

I wonder how Skinner looks when he isn't the guy and there is less pressure?

I’m guessing about 250lbs