Nosek picked by Las Vegas

[Wingsfan 4 life]

Nosek has to clear waivers, so there's probably a good chance he ends up back here at some point. Like Frk.

 

[Dotter]

Wait, they didn't take the $4million backup goaltender?

Nope, guess they didn't feel like flipping Petr the Great for four 1st round draft picks. They chose Nosek instead.

 

[Avery Rule]

heh Nosek it is

 

[edmundbenz]

Indeed.

 

[Sparkzuk]

and he gets to be back with his GR matey Pulkinen

 

[Reddwit]

Could be Sbisa switched to Skille from Vancouver, or something more meaningless.

Skille makes $0, Sbisa makes $4.6M ($3.6M salary + $1M bonus). I highly doubt they'd flip a $5M switch like that on an oopsie daisy.

Nosek in for XO actually makes sense - similar salaries, age, and potential outlook.

 

[Martinez]

Skille makes $0, Sbisa makes $4.6M ($3.6M salary + $1M bonus). I highly doubt they'd flip a $5M switch like that on an oopsie daisy.

Nosek in for XO actually makes sense - similar salaries, age, and potential outlook.

And skating

 

[Henkka]

Skille makes $0, Sbisa makes $4.6M ($3.6M salary + $1M bonus). I highly doubt they'd flip a $5M switch like that on an oopsie daisy.

Nosek in for XO actually makes sense - similar salaries, age, and potential outlook.

They already said the changing decision was made with the Buffalo pick.

 

[Reddwit]

They already said the changing decision was made with the Buffalo pick.

Ok. Still definitely wasn't the massive gap between Skille and Sbisa.

 

[Mlotek]

He is already light years better than our current bottom six and one of the few bright spots of hope for the future. Just watch, gonna be another Jarnkrok situation.

Or Janmark.

 

[RedWingsfan55]

Helene St. James‏Verified account @HeleneStJames

Hearing Tomas Nosek going to Vegas. If so, quite an indictment on some of NHLers Red Wings made available.

Really?! No ****. The wings are terrible and lost a 4th line nhler at best.

 

[Shoalzie]

Seems like it worked out as good as could've been for the Wings. Nosek could've been a player for them but they don't lose any of the defensemen and they still can decide on what to do with Mrazek as a trade piece.

 

[izlez]

Let's open this thread back up when he's centering the 3rd line in Vegas by mid-season.

So, you're gonna act all upset about this...and then in the end, in your mind he is a 3rd line guy on an expansion team?


And people complaining about this by comparing it to losing Jarnkrok and Janmark like that means something?
Jarnkrok and Janmark are 3rd/4th line forwards. We have about 20 of those in the organization. Lack of 3rd and 4th line forwards is not the issue here.

 

[DeYarmond Edison]

Would have been nice to see Nosek, but we don't have any real center spots available.

These are kind of locks.

----- Zeta ---
---- Larkin ---
--- Nielsen ---
-- Glendening --

(spare parts: Helm, Sheahan)

Would rather have Nosek up there in 4 tbh.

Oh well, he plays for my new favorite team now!

 

[HockeyinHD]

Well the real indictment is that the Wings didn't have enough players worth protecting.

Most teams don't.

 

[chris05]

"Tomas Nosek had a pretty good age 24 season in the AHL. When Riley Sheahan was 24, he was finishing up his 3rd season in the NHL."
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Good joke........Mantha started the season in the AHL....Larkin started the season in the NHL. ..(a bigger joke)

It took Nosek about 5 to 6 games to get his first NHL goal. The way you keep 25 year playoff streaks alive is by playing players who can contribute to team wins. Team sponsors and season ticket holders were hosed big time by managements decisions.

 

[HockeyinHD]

Detroit drafts Nosek's all the time. A big part of their problem is that they draft so many Nosek's it clutters the prospect pipeline. If there were a few less Nosek's, the Nosek's remaining would have more room to stretch at the AHL level and perhaps show a little bit more than Nosek's typically do.

 

[izlez]

It took Nosek about 5 to 6 games to get his first NHL goal. The way you keep 25 year playoff streaks alive is by playing players who can contribute to team wins. Team sponsors and season ticket holders were hosed big time by managements decisions.

Are you saying that players like Nosek are they ones that keep playoff steaks alive and keep sponsors and fans happy?



because if so... that is very dumb

 

[Winger98]

Are you saying that players like Nosek are they ones that keep playoff steaks alive and keep sponsors and fans happy?



because if so... that is very dumb

I don't think that's what Chris is saying at all. I think the point is that spots should go to guys who earn it day in and day out and not gifted because they are vets or whatever, something that may have been a bit of an issue in the past with the likes of Bert, Sammy, Cleary, Miller, arguably Sheahan last year.

I'm not sure who we'll have around this year to play that role, though. Maybe we'll sign someone.

 

[Dotter]

I don't think that's what Chris is saying at all. I think the point is that spots should go to guys who earn it day in and day out and not gifted because they are vets or whatever, something that may have been a bit of an issue in the past with the likes of Bert, Sammy, Cleary, Miller, arguably Sheahan last year.

I'm not sure who we'll have around this year to play that role, though. Maybe we'll sign someone.

Tyler Bertuzzi is projected to be part of the future. Tomas Nosek was not. Wings could afford to lose him or Glendenning.

 

[njx9]

Well, this was pretty high on the likely-best-case list. I had an, I think, reasonable hope that they'd take Helm, but that was about the only ugly contract that had any chance of being moved.

It's unfortunate they didn't like Sheahan, but only because I think there's no chance he gets traded, and a very, very high chance he's the next multi-year, multi-million-dollar extension that Holland saddles the team with.

It's unfortunate they didn't take Mrazek, now that the organization has seemingly given up on him. I don't think there's any real chance he stays in Detroit long term, no matter how well he plays this year or next year. That said, it seems clear that he has essentially no trade value (real shocker, there), so fans can hope he plays like a Vezina-caliber goalie this year to rebuild that, but otherwise a second (or even a third, really) is an absurd pipe dream.

 

[HockeyinHD]

It's unfortunate they didn't like Sheahan, but only because I think there's no chance he gets traded, and a very, very high chance he's the next multi-year, multi-million-dollar extension that Holland saddles the team with.

Heh.

If Sheahan bounces back and scores in the teens he'll probably get a 3-4 year RFA deal in the low 2's. If he doesn't, he won't. He'll probably get a tender, depending on how he does, but not much beyond that. More likely he'd get moved.

It's unfortunate they didn't take Mrazek, now that the organization has seemingly given up on him. I don't think there's any real chance he stays in Detroit long term, no matter how well he plays this year or next year. That said, it seems clear that he has essentially no trade value (real shocker, there), so fans can hope he plays like a Vezina-caliber goalie this year to rebuild that, but otherwise a second (or even a third, really) is an absurd pipe dream.

Agree. Right now Mrazek at 4mil has 0 value. If he has a strong year he'll be tradeable, probably for a 3rd, but at this point I don't see either Holland extending another multi-year to Mrazek or Mrazek signing it if he did.

 

[Mlotek]

So, you're gonna act all upset about this...and then in the end, in your mind he is a 3rd line guy on an expansion team?


And people complaining about this by comparing it to losing Jarnkrok and Janmark like that means something?
Jarnkrok and Janmark are 3rd/4th line forwards. We have about 20 of those in the organization. Lack of 3rd and 4th line forwards is not the issue here.

Jarnkrok and Janmark are 2nd/3rd line forwards. I don't know where you get 4th line material from.

4th liners generally player under 11 minutes a game (sometimes 12 if team takes tons of penalties). Find me a forward on Detroit who put up 30 points playing under 11 minutes a game.

 

[njx9]

Heh.

If Sheahan bounces back and scores in the teens he'll probably get a 3-4 year RFA deal in the low 2's. If he doesn't, he won't. He'll probably get a tender, depending on how he does, but not much beyond that. More likely he'd get moved.

I'm far more pessimistic, since he seems to have gotten the 'lifer' treatment (with regards to playtime with no expectations around quality of play), but I'm perfectly willing to accept that it's nothing more than pure, unbridled pessimism and disillusionment.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Really?! No ****. The wings are terrible and lost a 4th line nhler at best.

It's funny to hear that from St. James. Isn't she usually a mouthpiece for the organization?

Maybe this was Holland's plan all along. Stick a bunch of players on bad contracts so he won't have to protect them in the expansion draft.