OT: Non-Hockey Sports Thread XII - Heeeeeeressss JJ! (Percy Harvin Edition)

thestonedkoala

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Will Levis? The Titans QB prospect that looked completely pedestrian in the game time that he got? If I'm trading for a QB, it's not going to be for Will Levis.
If you're taking a QB, grabbing Levis might not have been a bad get, especially if you sit him. He also had some injuries at the end of the season that affected his overall record.
 

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Just looking over the stats from the Bucks/Celtics game. The refs swallowed their whistles for that game.
-2 FT attempts total in the game (MIL 2, BOS 0). previous NBA record was 11 FT attempts combined
-MIL committed (was called) only 4 fouls the entire game. Fewest in league history
-BOS getting 0 FT attempts is the first time ever, a couple of teams have had 1 in the past.
-The game was over in under than 2 hours (1:57).
 

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Not holding my beath, but this would be nice

That should never happen. The reference is basically a forced trade. It was #66 from AZ, #94 and a 2024 5th from PHI. (*corrected wording)

There is probably a 0% chance they involve any sort of 1st round picks.
 
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That should never happen. The reference is basically a forced trade. It was #66 to AZ, #94 and a 2024 5th to PHI.

There is probably a 0% chance they involve any sort of 1st round picks.

I agree that the likelihood of swapping picks with ATL is remote. But I would be happy with any draft compensation. More bullets in the gun, especially if they are looking to move up.
 

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I agree that the likelihood of swapping picks with ATL is remote. But I would be happy with any draft compensation. More bullets in the gun, especially if they are looking to move up.
I don’t think that’s how it’ll work. It will likely be that Atlanta loses a pick to the void.
 

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I think swapping the 8 and 11 picks would be a fair, tidy, and elegant, solution. It would be a slap on the wrist for the Facons - they've got their QB, and will still have a choice between a lot of talent at #11, presuming that at least 4 of the picks prior will be QB's- but will sting enough to make them reconsider doing it again. Since the Vikings were the aggrieved party, they get some recompense, but only three spots. It's not like they'll be parachuted into Maye, Daniels, or McCarthy territory.
 

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I think swapping the 8 and 11 picks would be a fair, tidy, and elegant, solution. It would be a slap on the wrist for the Facons - they've got their QB, and will still have a choice between a lot of talent at #11, presuming that at least 4 of the picks prior will be QB's- but will sting enough to make them reconsider doing it again. Since the Vikings were the aggrieved party, they get some recompense, but only three spots. It's not like they'll be parachuted into Maye, Daniels, or McCarthy territory.
Whole bunch of nonsense. Show me a player tampering punishment that resulted in compensation going to the other team.
 
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Whole bunch of nonsense. Show me a player tampering punishment that resulted in compensation going to the other team.
Lance Briggs back in 2008.


Goodell also said the teams will switch picks in the third round of the April 26-27 draft. Chicago, which had the 12th pick, will get San Francisco's seventh pick and the 49ers will get Chicago's choice.

As mentioned before this is kind of unprecedented. It involves such a high profile player at a high profile position. It's the worst kept secret in the NFL and they may finally step in as there are two cases in front of Goddell this off-season.
 

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Lance Briggs back in 2008.


Goodell also said the teams will switch picks in the third round of the April 26-27 draft. Chicago, which had the 12th pick, will get San Francisco's seventh pick and the 49ers will get Chicago's choice.

As mentioned before this is kind of unprecedented. It involves such a high profile player at a high profile position. It's the worst kept secret in the NFL and they may finally step in as there are two cases in front of Goddell this off-season.
If the NFL makes two teams swap top 11 picks due to tampering, it really is a clown league. It’s just not going to happen. A mid round pick swap is the likely solution IF there is one.

It’s really hard to call the vikings a victim when there is absolutely 0 chance they were going to offer Cousins a similar contract and Cousins was going to test free agency no matter what. Them being “surprised” is just theatrical bullshit
 

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If the NFL makes two teams swap top 11 picks due to tampering, it really is a clown league. It’s just not going to happen. A mid round pick swap is the likely solution IF there is one.

It’s really hard to call the vikings a victim when there is absolutely 0 chance they were going to offer Cousins a similar contract and Cousins was going to test free agency no matter what. Them being “surprised” is just theatrical bullshit

ATL should just lose a mid round pick as a "stupid tax" for getting caught.
 

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If the NFL makes two teams swap top 11 picks due to tampering, it really is a clown league. It’s just not going to happen. A mid round pick swap is the likely solution IF there is one.

It’s really hard to call the vikings a victim when there is absolutely 0 chance they were going to offer Cousins a similar contract and Cousins was going to test free agency no matter what. Them being “surprised” is just theatrical bullshit

Swapping the 8th with the 11th is the equivalency of a 3rd round pick.

It doesn't matter if the Vikings are the victims or not. This sort of tampering has been going on way too long and given the situation, the NFL may step in to put an end to it. They already created a tampering period. Cousins should have never opened his mouth and this probably would have been swept under the rug.

Also apparently there are multiple cases of possible tampering by the Falcons this off-season.
 

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Swapping the 8th with the 11th is the equivalency of a 3rd round pick.
The issue is expecting the vikings to get anything at all.

The recent examples are:

Chiefs lost their 3rd and 6th round picks in 2016 for tampering with Jeremy Maclin.

The Dolphins lost their 1st and 3rd round picks in 2022 for tampering with Tom Brady AND Sean Payton’s agent.

Cousins doesn’t warrant Atlanta losing their 1st or 2nd round pick. Thus, making them forfeit a mid round pick (and maybe a late round pick) is the logical punishment.
 
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If the NFL makes two teams swap top 11 picks due to tampering, it really is a clown league. It’s just not going to happen. A mid round pick swap is the likely solution IF there is one.

It’s really hard to call the vikings a victim when there is absolutely 0 chance they were going to offer Cousins a similar contract and Cousins was going to test free agency no matter what. Them being “surprised” is just theatrical bullshit
Why even have a tampering rule if you aren't going to enforce it? All ATL had to do was follow the rules, or at least, if you are going to break them, don't talk about it in the press.

Cousins is a top 10 QB in the QB crazy league. Saying that he isn't valuable is ridiculous.
 

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Why even have a tampering rule if you aren't going to enforce it? All ATL had to do was follow the rules, or at least, if you are going to break them, don't talk about it in the press.
They will. You’re conflating enforcing the rule with giving the vikings compensation. Atlanta will likely lose draft capital.
 

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They will. You’re conflating enforcing the rule with giving the vikings compensation. Atlanta will likely lose draft capital.
You're Packflating.

Anyway, on to more important things, Newcastle somehow destroyed Tottenham 4-0, today. Can't figure out if they were really good, or Tottenham really bad.

If Newcastle can somehow manage to set themselves up for European soccer next season it'd be huge.
 
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