Blue Jays Discussion: No More AA, Everyone is very Sad (and by Sad, I mean Mad)

[Daisy Jane]

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[Leaf_Crazy]

AA is *****footing around the obvious here

He says that in July he had every expectation that he'd stay here for years, but wont say at all what changed his mind.

That isn't anything new...

 

[WTFMAN99]

That isn't anything new...

Well we heard Shapiro kind of ripped into him about trading prospects...probably just said forget this.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Smad. Everyone is smad.

 

[Sokil]

That isn't anything new...

I know, it's just annoying to hear. What's the point of these calls if they won't say anything?

'The team is great, the fans are great, the new president is great, rogers is great, I want to stay here for ever, I was offered 10 million dollars to stay here, but I'm not - next question'

 

[Eyedea]

the one that needs a GM?

oh, I just sly me

The only ones that are without GMs currently are the Jays and the Marlins (with the assumption that Jennings is already canned).

Ben Cherington didn't even target a job in MLB after his resignation from the Sox GM role. He's now a part of Columbia's Sports Management faculty.

 

[ChiTownLeafer]

Maybe AA knew he couldn't work with shapiro or wanted more power and after the hiring on Shapiro, probably said F it I'm not staying here anymore, let's go all in. Shapiro didn't like it and chewed him off. Spiral effect that was started because of Rogers.

 

[theaub]

AA left on slightly different terms than Cherington.

The second some GM gets turfed next year AA will be at the top of the list.

 

[Menzinger]

Bruce Arthur of the star just tweeted that AA hates the idea of leaving and that many other Jays staffers are "devastated".

Pretty damning of the impact of Shapiro and senior meddling in the running of the club.

Today is not a good day to be a Jays fan.

 

[Gargyn]

The only ones that are without GMs currently are the Jays and the Marlins (with the assumption that Jennings is already canned).

Ben Cherington didn't even target a job in MLB after his resignation from the Sox GM role. He's now a part of Columbia's Sports Management faculty.

A team will make room for AA, let's not pretend they won't. He will be among the most highly sought after free agents.

 

[bobermay]

I cannot help be not believe what AA has been saying. Seems like a very political conference call.

 

[Eyedea]

AA left on slightly different terms than Cherington.

The second some GM gets turfed next year AA will be at the top of the list.

Well if we are to speculate that AA wasn't going to receive the same autonomous powers as he would have with Beeston, then that's essentially the reasons for why Cherington left after Dombrowski was hired as president.

A team will make room for AA, let's not pretend they won't. He will be among the most highly sought after free agents.

Sure, but at this point there isn't room unless he receives a promotion or some org drops the bomb on their GM. I don't know if he's willing to just hop on a team as an advisor. He may not like the options available either.

 

[Giuseppe Sallo]

I believe AA. Maybe Shapiro was aggressive in his stance, AA wasn't expecting it so he bailed.

 

[ChiTownLeafer]

Classy on AA to tell the fans it's all on him. Definitely on Rogers but great for him to steer the conversation.

 

[TootooTrain]

Love how Simmons doesn't even state his name or publication, just goes straight into questioning.

 

[theaub]

Well if we are to speculate that AA wasn't going to receive the same autonomous powers as he would have with Beeston, then that's essentially the reasons for why Cherington left after Dombrowski was hired as president.

And he left with a team that didn't just make it the ALCS.

And he wasn't named 2015 Executive of the Year by his peers either.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I cannot help be not believe what AA has been saying. Seems like a very political conference call.

It's what I expected. AA is trying to shoulder the blame away so Shapiro and Rogers are not the bad guys. Not many are buying it and nor should they IMO.

Needless to say, this summarizes Jays fans feelings from the moment they woke up this morning to hearing this news:

 

[Muston Atthews]

I find it funny how people are running away with Keith Law's speculation (in his own opinion) that the Jays will rebuild. He's heard nothing, he knows nothing about the scenario, and Shapiro isn't even in power yet. There will be a lot of people (including Stephen Brunt) who are going to "speculate" to create views and listeners what will happen even though they know nothing. Calm the **** down.

 

[Morguee]

Classy on AA to tell the fans it's all on him. Definitely on Rogers but great for him to steer the conversation.

I don't understand? I thought he was offered a 5 year contract but turned it down?

 

[theaub]

This is on Rogers

Rogers hired Shapiro and gave him player personnel powers, knowing that it means AA would very likely be out the door.

They made their choice in August. As to whether they regret it now...who knows.

 

[Eyedea]

And he left with a team that didn't just make it the ALCS.

And he wasn't named 2015 Executive of the Year by his peers either.

Cherington was still sought after. There were roles lined up for him that he decided for whatever reason not to pursue. They are obviously different persons, but AA is in a weird state of limbo now that teams have already filled their vacant GM positions.

 

[Menzinger]

I cannot help be not believe what AA has been saying. Seems like a very political conference call.

He likely doesn't want to be known as a guy who criticizes his superiors - hurts his future job prospects.

 

[trellaine201]

Ouch executive of the year and jays can't keep him. Doesn't look good

Sporting news, results from the peers.

 

[Muston Atthews]

Also, its funny how we (the team and Anthopolous) ran a tight lipped ship regarding everything, yet the second the report comes out that AA isn't coming back there is a following report that Shapiro "ripped" AA about trading prospects. So either that report is messed up or AA is extremely petty about the situation and leaked the report like a rat.

 

[JS19]

Smad. Everyone is smad.

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