Speculation: Nikolaj Ehlers

[SEALBound]

I look at guys like Bjorkstrand, Toffoli, and Zuccarello who are similar performers they were all bringing back that 2nd + 3rd/4th with maybe a prospect here and there return.

I imagine something like 2 2nds gets it done pretty easy. Might depend on what Winnipeg is hoping to get in terms of roster players too.

Actually, a good comp might be Buchnevich from 2021. Similar numbers. He went for Blais+2nd. Buch was a but younger though. So a younger roster player + 2nd would be about right. I suggest Ponomarov+2nd from the Penguins

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Futures are not going to get it done. The franchise is in compete mode - middling prospects and 2nd round picks don't do anything to help that. If Ehlers goes, it's got to patch a hole in the team.

 

[KrisBeKreame]

Does something around Pulock + Nelson and Pionk + Ehlers work for Islanders fans? Winnipeg would be adding assets. Pulock has 6 years on his contract, and the other 3 players have only 1 year left. This shakes up the Islanders, which is maybe what they need. Their core isn't getting very far. Obviously though NYI are not going to just give Pulock away. He's a good player. The assets coming in the deal would have to make it worth it.

FULL DISCLAIMER - I'm neither a Jets fan or Islanders fan, just a neutral observer.

Nelson has similar if not slightly more value than Ehlers and Pulock has more value than Pionk. Personally I dont wan to see Nelson play anywhere else except the Island. However I could get behind Pionk + Ehlers for Pulock + ???

 

[ctmagic]

Winnipeg won’t use him there.

I heard Ehlers himself likes being on PP2. Something about leading the 2nd unit.

 

[Gurglesons]

Futures are not going to get it done. The franchise is in compete mode - middling prospects and 2nd round picks don't do anything to help that. If Ehlers goes, it's got to patch a hole in the team.

You can move Ehlers for futures and then futures for the piece. Simple work.

 

[Flair Hay]

You can move Ehlers for futures and then futures for the piece. Simple work.

Not typically how our GM has operated. Even if this is a logical solution.

 

[Flair Hay]

Hahaha!!!!! Spinorama hockey, really????They’re so legit.

Even Dreger was just throwing wild speculation out at that point. See someone believes everything they read online.

It's a link to Pierre LeBrun in the Athletic.

I think it's pretty well accepted the Jets were shopping Ehlers back in the 2019 offseason.

Whether it was a good idea or not is much more up for debate.

 

[Scintillating10]

"I fully expect Ehlers to be shopped — and likely moved — between now and the draft.

Winnipeg has gotten a ton of value out of Ehlers’ six seasons at $6 million from 2018-19 to now. He’s third in goals and fourth in points over the duration of his contract, leading all forwards in plus-minus in that six-year span. His underlying numbers are spectacular, suggesting Winnipeg has gotten a ton of benefit from the good things he does at five-on-five, even when accounting for the chaos, but his playoff production has not matched his regular season efficacy. I wonder if the organization is burned by that."

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As a Penguins fan, I would be very intrested in him...what do the Jets want/need?

What would you want from Habs?

 

[Wondercarrot]

Sounds like Dillion is on his way out.
1 yr of Chychrun @ $4.6 for 1 year of Ehlers.

 

[Hunter368]

What would you want from Habs?

He doesnt fit the Habs age range for rebuild and the Jets want win now pieces not prospects, picks or unproven young players.

 

[Scintillating10]

He doesnt fit the Habs age range for rebuild and the Jets want win now pieces not prospects, picks or unproven young players.

Montreal has some young defense can move for him. Harris for Ehlers good matchup

 

[Hunter368]

Montreal has some young defense can move for him. Harris for Ehlers good matchup

Again Ehlers doesn’t fit your rebuild. No interest in Harris.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Montreal has some young defense can move for him. Harris for Ehlers good matchup

These boards value is all over the place. Harris plus jets 1st to move 10 spots has been offered and now the jets are going to trade our 2nd best forward for just Harris?

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

These boards value is all over the place. Harris plus jets 1st to move 10 spots has been offered and now the jets are going to trade our 2nd best forward for just Harris?

Desperation is kicking in for the HF Habs general managers. Harris and Barron are both heading on waivers if they can't make a move before october

 

[Scintillating10]

These boards value is all over the place. Harris plus jets 1st to move 10 spots has been offered and now the jets are going to trade our 2nd best forward for just Harris?

6 million and disappears in playoffs he doesn't hold that kind of value to me.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

Good regular season add. Ghost in the playoffs.

 

[Mrfenn92]

6 million and disappears in playoffs he doesn't hold that kind of value to me.

Then why make a bad faith offer?

 

[Adam da bomb]

6 million and disappears in playoffs he doesn't hold that kind of value to me.

That’s fine. Then the jets will just pass on your offer I think. After all, it doesn’t really matter what value he holds to a fan. I think because of his analytics the jets will be offered more. Also, the whole disappearing in playoffs is predated on making the playoffs which should be a goal for mtl.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Then why make a bad faith offer?

Because you never know. We could be willing to trade Connor for Mesar next.

 

[Scintillating10]

That’s fine. Then the jets will just pass on your offer I think. After all, it doesn’t really matter what value he holds to a fan. I think because of his analytics the jets will be offered more. Also, the whole disappearing in playoffs is predated on making the playoffs which should be a goal for mtl.

Habs only in year 3 of rebuild. Make playoffs next year is very ambitious.

 

[Yepthatsme]

Calgary could be willing to offer something around the Vancouver 1st+ Mangiapane or maybe a Coleman+ style offer. Winnipeg gets the option of a couple playoff style players with differing additions based on who they choose, and Calgary gets an offensive driver who they can give plenty of opportunity to. Calgary’s forward corps begin to look more filled out after with around $18M in cap space to spare:

Ehlers-Kadri-Kuzmenko
Huberdeau-Zary-Sharangovich
Pelletier-Backlund-Mangiapane/Coleman

 

[Adam da bomb]

Habs only in year 3 of rebuild. Make playoffs next year is very ambitious.

I can’t follow your rebuild. I thought you were rebuilding since before 2020, got hot at the right time during Covid went to the finals, but, thought was still a rebuilding team, who had all their young stars and their hot goalie price clicking.

But mtl has all the pieces to compete if Dach works out. 2 great centres, 2 great wingers and and lots of great d. With mailloux, reinbacher, lane, ghule.

 

[Scintillating10]

Again Ehlers doesn’t fit your rebuild. No interest in Harris.

He would make good flip at deadline if Habs retain half. Similar to Monahan.

I can’t follow your rebuild. I thought you were rebuilding since before 2020, got hot at the right time during Covid went to the finals, but, thought was still a rebuilding team, who had all their young stars and their hot goalie price clicking.

No we were in finals three year ago. Lost franchise goaltender and stud defense man to career ending injuries at same time. Forced us into rebuild.

 

[JKG33]

Calgary could be willing to offer something around the Vancouver 1st+ Mangiapane or maybe a Coleman+ style offer. Winnipeg gets the option of a couple playoff style players with differing additions based on who they choose, and Calgary gets an offensive driver who they can give plenty of opportunity to. Calgary’s forward corps begin to look more filled out after with around $18M in cap space to spare:

Ehlers-Kadri-Kuzmenko
Huberdeau-Zary-Sharangovich
Pelletier-Backlund-Mangiapane/Coleman

The Jets would be adding if it's Coleman

 

[Heldig]

The Jets would be adding if it's Coleman

If that was the case Winnipeg would look elsewhere. Jets don't need to get older.