Confirmed with Link: Nichushkin back in assistance program; suspended a minimum of six months

expatriatedtexan

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I like the optimism, but Nuke at 6M is one of the best contracts in the league (when he's not off in the PAP). Losing it to sign Drouin to a bigger contract doesn't make us better
Don't sign Drouin to more. I would offer him Lehky's contract. Yes, he's reestablished himself, but he did so playing next to Nathan MacKinnon. Other GMs will not be offering him 6M contracts. And yes, there is nobody that can replace what Nuke does..especially at his cap hit. But the problem is Nuke can't provide that anymore either. There are multiple ways to build a stanley cup contender and multiple strategies that can win a stanley cup. We've been running the same core and the same game plan for too long now. We've got to get serious about chaning things up if we want to have success.
 
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Don't sign Drouin to more. I would offer him Lehky's contract. Yes, he's reestablished himself, but he did so playing next to Nathan MacKinnon. Other GMs will not be offering him 6M contracts. And yes, there is nobody that can replace what Nuke does..especially at his cap hit. But the problem is Nuke can't provide that anymore either. There are multiple ways to build a stanley cup contender and multiple strategies that can win a stanley cup. We've been running the same core and the same game plan for too long now. We've got to get serious about chaning things up if we want to have success.
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. Drouin at 3-4M and losing Nuke is worse than just having Nuke all things being equal.
 

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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. Drouin at 3-4M and losing Nuke is worse than just having Nuke all things being equal.
Nobody will argue this.

And, having JD at 3 - 4M, trading Rants, and finding new talent is The Way.

Maybe another player in the league wants to reinvigorate their career the way Drouin did? Our Pro scouts are generally quite good at their job.
 

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jaisen73

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The toughest challenge this summer is that its frozen in place. Can't buy him out (so far as I know), can't terminate the contract, etc. A cap strapped team with $7m unknown on LTIR and another $6m in limbo? Ouch.

I do think they make every effort to re-sign Drouin unless his ask is super high. I'd like to think Drouin recognizes that he is in a good spot, that a lot of the success is dependent on the talent around him, etc. Definitely has earned a big raise but if he looking at anything over 3.5-4 million per (the AAV needs to be lower for each year of contract IMO) then you let him walk.
 

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Friedman has said on multiple occasions that the Avs cannot move to terminate Nuke's contract while he's suspended. So the earliest they can do that would be the day he is reinstated, and they would have to be cap-compliant when he is reinstated.
 
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Friedman has said on multiple occasions that the Avs cannot move to terminate Nuke's contract while he's suspended. So the earliest they can do that would be the day he is reinstated, and they would have to be cap-compliant when he is reinstated.
are they obligated to put him back in the roster after he is reinstated? cant they keep him out on LTIR until the end of the season so they only worry about his contract and cap hit next offseason?
 

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are they obligated to put him back in the roster after he is reinstated? cant they keep him out on LTIR until the end of the season so they only worry about his contract and cap hit next offseason?
You can’t keep a healthy player on LTIR. In this case when Nuke is reinstated, he’d be ready to play. They can scratch him but will have to carry his cap hit
 

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are they obligated to put him back in the roster after he is reinstated? cant they keep him out on LTIR until the end of the season so they only worry about his contract and cap hit next offseason?
What is the injury we would use LTIR for him?

No, a succesfull recovery from substance abuse is not an injury
 

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We get into major technicalities here... but Nuke's NMC means he doesn't have to go on waivers to be terminated. Meaning the move to terminate can happen immediately and Nuke would not be on the cap at any point (until the settlement is reached months later)

The plan here will be fairly clear in 6-8 weeks. If the deal is mutually terminated, we probably have the full resolution prior to the draft. We don't have that and the Avs spend to the cap, we will know they have a plan in place to deal Nuke's cap hit... either termination or trade. If the Avs leave room for him, they'll be keeping him or think the case is flimsy to terminate. There is also the ability for the Avs to buyout Nuke completely... Which results in a cap credit next season, then a small cap hit for a year, then $3m for 2, $5m for 2, then 1.7m unti 2036.

IMO All of the situation points to a negotiated termination. The Avs' threaten to terminate the day of reinstatement and Nuke won't get shit. Nuke will say we will see you in court and you'll take the risk of it following through. IMO neither party will want that uncertainty, so they will come to an agreement prior. The Avs will pay some for Nuke to go away. Nuke will get a chance to earn money as soon as Nov 13th and choose Miami as his preferred destination. Avs have a lot of incentive to get this resolved prior to July 1. Nuke doesn't have as much incentive there, but if he plans to play in the NHL again, there is some incentive as it will increase the amount of teams he can go to.
 

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What sort of interest will there be in him from other teams? Who would be desperate enough?
 

Bill Peckerskull

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What sort of interest will there be in him from other teams? Who would be desperate enough?
IMO, if he is a UFA, and willing to play for a smaller cap hit, there will be a lot of teams close to winning The Cup that would come calling. There's almost zero risk if he's signed to a league minimum or $1M cap hit.
 

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Trading Val to another team isn't totally outside the realm of possibility, with San Jose being a key example. First, the Avs woud basically have to be giving him away. Future considerations, mid prospect, maybe a late pick? It would be solely about terminating the relationship. From the Sharks perspective? You get over the cap floor, if he's clean and productive you get a very good player, and if he blows it he is literally done in the league, off their books, etc. and not their headache for at least a year after that point.

You hate to lose a good player for nothing but at this point it is impossible to imagine him being welcomed back in that room. Hell, this goes beyond the level of awkward some in past rooms felt when they signed Brad May. Or how anyone would have felt if they'd taken a run at signing Duchene this past summer after his buyout.
 
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