NHL & Vegas Part Deuces Wild: Betting it all on Black (Knights)
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yeah, same way Florida ruins it for me. Not many people give a crap about teams with no rivalries, history or some sort of tradition. Sorry but it is true.
EchoesoftheEighties
HF Oil's Unofficial Shitposter
15 years ago you could've said the same about LA. How are teams supposed to develop rivalries or history etc. if they're not even given a shot?
Tom ServoMST3K
In search of a Steinbach Hero
Lets not pretend that Vegas isn't getting a push from the media, for the same reason Vegas would be popular with players.
Voight
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Money Mayweather and Dana White have put down deposits. Good to have celebrities endorsing the team.
I think it'll work a lot better then Seattle will, not to get OT.
I think it'll work a lot better then Seattle will, not to get OT.
AdmiralsFan24
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If I lived in Vegas I would put down a $300 deposit so fast for the P5 section.
Not really sure why P4 is more expensive than P5 unless P4 is going to be an all-you-can-eat section or something like that.
EchoesoftheEighties
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BattleBorn
50% to winning as many division titles as Toronto
I called before I put my deposit down. According to the agent, the balcony is a lot closer to the ice than the upper levels. However, the Thunderbirds (now my preferred name for the team) will shoot twice towards the P6 section based on what has been decided at this point, so the closeness is a moot point in my mind.
I am not saying no one should be given a shot. My point is, as a hockey fan, Vegas is the LAST spot I would want a team. Seattle, Québec and Hamilton would all be before. I am sure the 5 hockey fans in Vegas will be happy when they expand.
AdmiralsFan24
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That's still weird because I'd much rather be more towards center ice than behind the nets.
Interesting that P6 is the home net twice. I definitely thought that was the net they would shoot at once and why the prices were lower.
IU Hawks fan
They call me IU
Why? Seattle is sports crazy. Look how well they can support a Minor League Soccer team.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
History requires time. Tradition requires establishment.
I suppose you would have been against the Rangers coming into the league when it happened too.
Why Not Baseball?
Just curious. Wouldn't baseball be a better fit for Vegas than hockey? Baseball often plays day games (the Cubs didn't even have night games until the 80s) so they could play a primarily day schedule which would cater to both industry people and tourists. Also a 40K seat dome would also be a great venue for events bigger than what an arena would hold.
Just curious. Wouldn't baseball be a better fit for Vegas than hockey? Baseball often plays day games (the Cubs didn't even have night games until the 80s) so they could play a primarily day schedule which would cater to both industry people and tourists. Also a 40K seat dome would also be a great venue for events bigger than what an arena would hold.
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Three reasons - the Black Sox and Pete Rose, and the Strip.
Vegas has a minor-league team already - the 51s - but I'd have to think that MLB is incredibly leery of putting a franchise smack dab in the gambling mecca of North America. And as for the third bit, the hockey arena will work precisely because of its location; I don't think there's enough space downtown for a proper ballpark, and even if there was ballgames last at least 3 hours or more. That's a lot of scheduling gray area that hockey doesn't suffer from (thanks to the shootout).
Anyway, a hockey arena (or NBA arena for that matter) is a more desirable facility in terms of multipurpose use - the giant stadiums like domed/roofed ballparks and new football stadiums are more expensive to build, operate, and reconfigure for events that don't draw 40,000 or more people.
Plus, if there IS an event that requires that much seating, there's always the Las Vegas Motor Speedway just past North Las Vegas that can handle that traffic.
BattleBorn
50% to winning as many division titles as Toronto
Baseball requires a larger market than almost any sport. With all the concerns people have with Vegas selling tickets to a 41/43 game schedule in a 17,500 person arena, the idea of selling 81 games for a 40,000 park is almost insane.
Schedule-wise it would likely work out better, but I think the work schedule issue here is a bit overblown. Plus, baseball doesn't really like day games much, either.
MLS is not minor league soccer though. If you want to call soccer league minor then you need to look at the lower US soccer divisions like NASL or USL
The Camera Eye
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Please, some respect for MLS. It's a growing league with plenty of talented players. Kudos to Seattle for mega support for their team, which other cities with MLS teams should replicate.
BattleBorn
50% to winning as many division titles as Toronto
I read an article a few days ago, I'll see if I can find it and will edit and link here when I do, that stated that Las Vegas is the 9th largest US television market for hockey in the US. 3rd largest without a team. Sure, we're non-traditional, but to say there's five fans here is pretty dumb. Our IHL team did really well here before they were booted from the Thomas and Mack Center.
Colin226
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Absolutely true. Speaking for my Devils, we've been here over 30 years and are still growing the fan base. Why?
The team was putrid, a joke for the first 6 seasons. Only people to become Devils fans were Rangers fans, as well as some other folks, from NJ who liked that the state finally had a team. Fast-forward to 1994, Rangers beat the Devils in the ECF and go on to win the Cup. Devils are rumored to possibly be moving, and still haven't won anything worth talking about. Huge numbers of people in the area hop aboard the Rangers bandwagon, not to mention they already have 3rd and 4th generation fans.
Devils go on to win 3 Cups in 9 years, captivating a younger audience who get into hockey for the first time. I was 6 when the Devils won their first Cup (parents didn't follow hockey so I was never pushed to one team), and at 25 I'd say I'm pretty young to have season tickets.
Many more like me are jumping on board but the majority of the Devils fan base is still in the 15 to 30 year range, and in this economy, luxuries like season tickets are not easily come by for many (especially with how expensive everything in NJ is).
My point being, even the Devils are still growing a fan base and niche in this 3 team market. Like you said, it takes a lot of time. There aren't many second generation Devils fans, and certainly none of them can afford season tickets on their parents' weekly allowance lol. But it, like hockey participation in NJ, is growing and just needs more time.
AdmiralsFan24
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The problem with baseball is you almost have to have a guarantee that you're getting a team, because nobody is building a major league sized baseball stadium without the assurance that they're getting a team, because it's going to sit empty if there is no team.
And baseball doesn't play that many day games. I'm looking at my teams schedule and 70% of their home games are at night, which seems about right for an MLB team.
And you're going to have the extra cost of either a dome or retractable roof for a stadium, because I don't care how dry the air is. 110-120 degrees is oppressive heat and I don't think fans would come out to watch a game in that weather without a roof.
[mod]There's more than 5 hockey fans just in my astronomy class.
This is just for an ECHL game:
If that's not enough, Vegas Wants Hockey's FB page has 12,000+ likes right now
https://www.facebook.com/vegaswantshockey?ref=br_tf
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