NHL now officially tracking advanced stats

[Brainiac]

I don't know if it's been discussed elsewhere, but the website seems to be live:

http://www.nhl.com/stats/advancedstats

Good thing they renamed them. Corsi is now SAT (shot attempts) and Fenwick is USAT (unblocked).

Just for fun, I looked at our Habs:

http://www.nhl.com/stats/advancedstats?season=20142015&gameType=2&team=MTL

Subban is ahead of everybody in basically all situations.

Click to read more...

 

[Habit11]

I don't know if it's been discussed elsewhere, but the website seems to be live:

http://www.nhl.com/stats/advancedstats

Good thing they renamed them. Corsi is now SAT (shot attempts) and Fenwick is USAT (unblocked).

Just for fun, I looked at our Habs:

http://www.nhl.com/stats/advancedstats?season=20142015&gameType=2&team=MTL

Subban is ahead of everybody in basically all situations.

For the Habs' they should just have a picture of PK smiling and that is all. No need for all the numbers, we already know

 

[ThaDevilGirl]

I still don't know what all these fancy stats mean.

 

[rockjngo]

Track all you want to. From the stats, Montreal has the least goal against, it does not mean the have the best defense, it just means we have one hell of a goalie and the worst defensive group in the league.

 

[Hope Of Glory]

Just by that you can see that some players ared used heavily in defensive situation. Plekanec, Eller, Sekac..... Malhotra at -230

 

[bcv]

I still don't know what all these fancy stats mean.

If you hover over the acronyms, it will tell you what it is.

 

[Lebowski]

I like it.

Subban truly is having an underrated season by many.

 

[Andy]

Ouch, when the game is even, Habs SAT is 22nd in the league. Their SAT against is 23rd in the league.

When they are behind they are 6th. So they clearly have the ability to play a possession game, but only do so when their backs are against the wall.

 

[ThaDevilGirl]

If you hover over the acronyms, it will tell you what it is.

Oh, thanks.

So many stats...

 

[MathMan]

Ouch, when the game is even, Habs SAT is 22nd in the league. Their SAT against is 23rd in the league.

When they are behind they are 6th. So they clearly have the ability to play a possession game, but only do so when their backs are against the wall.

SAT stats (aka Corsi) on the site for the Habs are exceedingly weird to me because they do not match the numbers I collected nor the numbers collected by independent sites such as war-on-ice (my numbers and theirs matched exactly).

I would like to know where the discrepancy comes from because it's pretty significant whether the Habs are 22nd in the league in Corsi/SAT close (and below 50%), or whether they are 10th (and over 51%)!

 

[Brainiac]

Ouch, when the game is even, Habs SAT is 22nd in the league. Their SAT against is 23rd in the league.

When they are behind they are 6th. So they clearly have the ability to play a possession game, but only do so when their backs are against the wall.

Good point, it jumped at me too. I mean, of course we see the game and how it usually unfold, but numbers kinda agree too. There's two Habs teams: one when the score is even or we lead, and a completly different team when we're trailing.

And the Kings are still top of the league for SAT... They are so getting into the playoffs.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Interesting, I'll have to take a look at these.

 

[Haburger]

I still don't know what all these fancy stats mean.

get sum math and science in ya!!!they are just another of hundreds of tools people use to analyze the game.

 

[Mario le Magnifique]

Wow Christian Thomas is a Corsi beast (ohh well, SAT).

We can all see the relevance of those stats. /pwnd

Apparently, SAT is a strong indication if our coach is good or bad.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

I have a question about SAT Rel.

It says:

shot attempts for player - shot attempts for team when not on the ice

Unless I'm misreading, doesn't this type of stat favor players who play more?

 

[DAChampion]

Wow Christian Thomas is a Corsi beast (ohh well, SAT).

We can all see the relevance of those stats. /pwnd

Apparently, SAT is a strong indication if our coach is good or bad.

Corsi is not meaningful for people who barely play.

 

[ThaDevilGirl]

get sum math and science in ya!!!they are just another of hundreds of tools people use to analyze the game.

I don't analyze the games, I watch them. Much more enjoyable.

 

[JayKing]

Overpaid amirite

 

[Brainiac]

I have a question about SAT Rel.

It says:

shot attempts for player - shot attempts for team when not on the ice

Unless I'm misreading, doesn't this type of stat favor players who play more?

Depends on the team. If I play one shift for Buffalo and get 10 shots against (because I'm bad at hockey), my SAT Rel would be around 1300, first in the league.

SAT Rel can lead to strange results. Not sure it's that useful to look at it league wide. Depends on a lot on the team.

But yes, you are right, on a good team, it will help if you play more.

 

[SaskRinkRat]

I don't analyze the games, I watch them. Much more enjoyable.

Imagine if you could do both. What kind of world would that be?

 

[MathMan]

I have a question about SAT Rel.

It says:

shot attempts for player - shot attempts for team when not on the ice

Unless I'm misreading, doesn't this type of stat favor players who play more?

No -- this is basically the team's SAT while the guy is on the ice, minus the team's SAT while the guy is on the bench.

In a very, VERY rough way it shows the impact of a player on his team's SAT, but keep in mind that this is heavily impacted by usage, teammates, matchups, and etc. Use with a lot of caution. But it's a pretty good clue that Subban is really good.

EDIT: Or are they not prorating by icetime? If not then yeah, that's pretty useless.

 

[Nicko999]

DD leads all forwards in secondary assists. Have fun with this guys.

Patches leads all forward in primary assists (15).

Subban and Markov lead the team in primary assists with 16 and 15 respectively.

 

[LaP]

We are 6th in the league for SAT for - SAT against when behind in the score.

We are 10th for SAT for - SAT against when the game is close (1 goal difference).

 

[LaP]

Subban leading the team for SAT for - SAT against anyone surprised?

 

[ThaDevilGirl]

Imagine if you could do both. What kind of world would that be?

I would spend my time debating with other HF posters about a myriad of stats just so we concluded that Carey is the team, DD sucks, and MT should be fired?