NHL, NHLPA begin planning 2024 World Cup UPD pushed to Feb 2025

[LadyStanley]

Daly media availability in Czech Republic for Global Series

 

[varsaku]

Daly media availability in Czech Republic for Global Series

I don't see things changing enough where things return to normal by Feb 2024. The NHL would have to adjust accordingly. Hopefully the NHL doesn't resort to gimmick teams again.

 

[LadyStanley]

Still some outstanding issues with IIHF. And the elephant in the room regarding Russian player participation.

Might be delayed.

Some discussion when NHL in Finland next week.

 

[Jussi]

Still some outstanding issues with IIHF. And the elephant in the room regarding Russian player participation.

Might be delayed.

Some discussion when NHL in Finland next week.

Discussions will be only with NHL and NHLPA. IIHF is not there as they have another engagement elsewhere.

 

[LadyStanley]

From Chris Johnson's Monday email newsletter:

The longer we go without an official announcement about a World Cup of Hockey in February 2024, the less likely it is to happen

 

[LadyStanley]

Monday, Monday, Monday

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[LadyStanley]

Editorial

 

[sh724]

Editorial

Not sure how it stains Bettman, he job is to grown NHL revenues and appease the BOG. The owners are only interested in a best on best tournament if they can make money from it. Just another example of how good Bettman is at his job, he gets blamed while the BOG stay out of the headlines.

Fehr, yes, because the players want to go to the olympics and he has not made it happen. Appeasing the players is his job

 

[LadyStanley]

Fehr is on his way out. There will be a new guy leading union before World Cup

 

[joelef]

MLB is on there 5th wbc with bigger names joining every tournament… the nhl can’t put a tourney on 8 years

 

[LadyStanley]

IIHF still on hold with Russian (and Belarusian) athletes at events.

(Participants in 2024 summer Olympics, no flag, no anthem.)

 

[yada]

After covid wrecking the 2022 Olympics this is pathetic that they cant get a world cup sorted. This should have been an easy make things right, could this potentially be viewed as a violation of the cba since olympics were included in the cba?

 

[Rob]

The NHL has been a great hindrance for international hockey

 

[rojac]

The NHL has been a great hindrance for international hockey

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

 

[rojac]

After covid wrecking the 2022 Olympics this is pathetic that they cant get a world cup sorted. This should have been an easy make things right, could this potentially be viewed as a violation of the cba since olympics were included in the cba?

My understanding is that the CBA agreement allowed the NHL to withdraw from participating in the Olympics, under certain conditions which were met. So I don’t see how it could be considered a CBA violation.

 

[rojac]

MLB is on there 5th wbc with bigger names joining every tournament… the nhl can’t put a tourney on 8 years

I go back and forth as to whether I’m a bigger hockey fan or baseball fan. But as much as I don’t care about NHL players in international tournaments, I care even less about the World Baseball Classic.

 

[Rob]

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

Why do you think it is a good thing?

 

[rojac]

Why do you think it is a good thing?

I have virtually no interest in NHL players playing international hockey. Their complete attention should be on playing for their NHL team. I found it absolutely disgusting in 2002 when Mario Lemieux ok games off from the Penguins so he would be healthy enough to play in the Olympics.

If NHL players really want to go play in the Olympics, they should take a range their contracts so that they aren’t signed to an NHL team for that season.

 

[joelef]

I have virtually no interest in NHL players playing international hockey. Their complete attention should be on playing for their NHL team. I found it absolutely disgusting in 2002 when Mario Lemieux ok games off from the Penguins so he would be healthy enough to play in the Olympics.

If NHL players really want to go play in the Olympics, they should take a range their contracts so that they aren’t signed to an NHL team for that season.

Why do you have such a problem with patriotism

 

[rojac]

Why do you have such a problem with patriotism

I have no problem with patriotism. I just prefer a more focused approach to team sports. For example, I have enjoyed the occasional soccer game, but I have no interest in ever becoming a fan of a team, because of all the international breaks and in-season tournaments.

 

[Rob]

I have virtually no interest in NHL players playing international hockey. Their complete attention should be on playing for their NHL team. I found it absolutely disgusting in 2002 when Mario Lemieux ok games off from the Penguins so he would be healthy enough to play in the Olympics.

If NHL players really want to go play in the Olympics, they should take a range their contracts so that they aren’t signed to an NHL team for that season.

Well disgusted seems to be a strong reaction. To each their own though.

The overwhelming majority of sports fans (especially outside the US) do prefer international competition though.

 

[rojac]

Well disgusted seems to be a strong reaction. To each their own though.

The overwhelming majority of sports fans (especially outside the US) do prefer international competition though.

That’s fine. I’m North American and the NHL is a North America league.

I also enjoy watching the management of a pro sports franchise: drafts, trades, free agents, salary cap management, etc.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

I go back and forth as to whether I’m a bigger hockey fan or baseball fan. But as much as I don’t care about NHL players in international tournaments, I care even less about the World Baseball Classic.

Baseball is a terrible sport for international play. 1-game rounds are terrible reflections of who the better team is, but you would never have a 5 or even 3 game series during it.

You also have fake teams like Italy & Israel made up entirely of Americans in it, it gives it a very exhibition feel.

 

[joelef]

Baseball is a terrible sport for international play. 1-game rounds are terrible reflections of who the better team is, but you would never have a 5 or even 3 game series during it.

You also have fake teams like Italy & Israel made up entirely of Americans in it, it gives it a very exhibition feel.

Italy hockey team is made of canadians