NHL.com 2008 Re-Draft Up

[Legionnaire]

Where is Colton Teubert?

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

This one's even worse imo.

1. Steven Stamkos, C, Tampa Bay Lightning (1)
2. Drew Doughty, D, Los Angeles Kings (2)
3. Erik Karlsson, D, Ottawa Senators (15)
4. Roman Josi, D, Nashville Predators (38)
5. Braden Holtby, G, Washington Capitals (93)
6. John Carlson, D, Washington Capitals (27)
7. Alex Pietrangelo, D, St. Louis Blues (4)
8. Josh Bailey, RW, New York Islanders (9)
9. Jordan Eberle, C, Edmonton Oilers (22)
10. Cam Atkinson, RW, Columbus Blue Jackets (157)
11. Adam Henrique, C, New Jersey Devils (82)
12. Jake Allen, G, St. Louis Blues (34)
13. Derek Stepan, C, New York Rangers (51)
14. Jared Spurgeon, D, New York Islanders (156)
15. Justin Schultz, D, Anaheim Ducks (43)
16. Tyler Myers, D, Buffalo Sabres (12)
17. Jake Gardiner, D, Anaheim Ducks (17)
18. Gustav Nyquist, RW, Detroit Red Wings (121)
19. Mikkel Boedker, LW, Arizona Coyotes (8)
20. Travis Hamonic, D, New York Islanders (53)
21. TJ Brodie, D, Calgary Flames (114)
22. Michael Del Zotto, D, New York Rangers (20)
23. Marco Scandella, D, Minnesota Wild (55)
24. Luca Sbisa, D, Philadelphia Flyers (19)
25. Zach Bogosian, D, Atlanta Thrashers (3)
26. Colin Wilson, C, Nashville Predators (7)
27. Matt Martin, LW, New York Islanders (148)
28. Tyler Ennis, LW, Buffalo Sabres (26)
29. Zack Smith, LW, Ottawa Senators (79)
30. Jason Demers, D, San Jose Sharks (186)

Top 3 is backwards. Pietrangelo after Carlson? 4 Inconsistent second line wingers and a poor goalie before 1bC Stepan? Scandella's position is a crime. Lot's of bad decisions, too many to go through. At least they didn't leave anybody deserving out of the first round.

But on a more positive note, what a draft right? 3 franchise players. 5 Norris threats and ridiculous D depth. In a proper redraft, it'd be only top top 6ers and top4ers through the top like 20.

Josi and Carlson over Pietrangelo. I weep for the world.

 

[boredmale]

Josi and Carlson over Pietrangelo. I weep for the world.

Seems like whoever did the redraft has a bad case of recency bias

 

[Schenn]

Where is Luke Schenn?

 

[BleedBlue14]

I almost got mad when I saw Pietrangelo being criminally underrated. And then I go to 12 and saw whoever made this list believes that Jake Allen would go 12, which makes a lot of sense.

Whoever made this list is a moron.

 

[BlueDream]

Never really realized that this draft class overall wasn’t very good. It was defensemen heavy but even a lot of those guys have disappointed.

 

[Voodoo Child]

Stamkos goes first still, he's a franchise center.

Switch Doughty and Karlsson, and petro is the next best D so he's the number four pick.

Atkinson had one amazing season and one very good one, but career wise has he been better than Derek Stepan? Brodie behind Hamonic? Matt Martin even in the first round? Demers not about five to ten spots higher? I probably bring in another goalie (Markstrom?) at the end of the first round.

Edit: in hindsight 2008 was a very good year. We drafted franchise D, and number 2Cs and long term goalies, in 2008.

 

[zizbuka]

where's luke schenn tho

Somehow worse than Luca Sbisa

 

[Oberyn]

Pietrangelo is too low and Allen is way way way too high.

 

[OVrocks]

I would take Doughty and Karlsson over Stamkos any day of the week.

 

[Brent Burns]

Also, lol to anybody putting Karlsson above Doughty. Doughty has arguably been the best defenseman in the league for years now.

 

[Romkey]

Umm why is Luke Schenn not on this list?! Definitely should be 5th still.....lol

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Merits of PlusMinus aside, how can the "best" defenseman of a generation be -40?

 

[tony d]

Maybe a homer reaction (for now) here but Karlsson should be #1 here. Stamkos, Doughty, Josi and Holtby to round out my top 5.

 

[SensNation613]

1. Erik Karlsson, D, Ottawa Senators (15)
2. Drew Doughty, D, Los Angeles Kings (2)
3. Steven Stamkos, C, Tampa Bay Lightning (1)
4. Alex Pietrangelo, D, St. Louis Blues (4)
5. Roman Josi, D, Nashville Predators (38)
6. Braden Holtby, G, Washington Capitals (93)
7. John Carlson, D, Washington Capitals (27)
8. Derek Stepan, C, New York Rangers (51)
9. Jordan Eberle, C, Edmonton Oilers (22)
10. Josh Bailey, RW, New York Islanders (9)
11. Cam Atkinson, RW, Columbus Blue Jackets (157)
12. Jared Spurgeon, D, New York Islanders (156)
13. Justin Schultz, D, Anaheim Ducks (43)
14. Adam Henrique, C, New Jersey Devils (82)
15. TJ Brodie, D, Calgary Flames (114)
16. Tyler Myers, D, Buffalo Sabres (12)
17. Jake Gardiner, D, Anaheim Ducks (17)
18. Gustav Nyquist, RW, Detroit Red Wings (121)
19. Travis Hamonic, D, New York Islanders (53)
20. Marco Scandella, D, Minnesota Wild (55)
21. Vyacheslav Voynov, D, Los Angeles Kings (32)
22. Jake Allen, G, St. Louis Blues (34)
23. Mikkel Boedker, LW, Arizona Coyotes (8)
24. Michael Del Zotto, D, New York Rangers (20)
25. Jason Demers, D, San Jose Sharks (186)
26. Zach Bogosian, D, Atlanta Thrashers (3)
27. Colin Wilson, C, Nashville Predators (7)
28. Tyler Ennis, LW, Buffalo Sabres (26)
29. Zack Smith, LW, Ottawa Senators (79)
30. Michael Stone, D, Arizona Coyotes (69)

 

[McKappa]

They are - which just goes to show how ****ing ridiculous this draft is in top-end talent. Two Norris winners, a guy who was at one point a top 3 player in the league and PPG for his career (not to mention second-best goalscorer of his generation), and numerous other #1 Ds who are Norris caliber if not winners...

Best post-lockout draft for top talent?

Certainly, although I think 2015 will give 2008 a run for it's money

 

[kerrabria]

Merits of PlusMinus aside, how can the "best" defenseman of a generation be -40?

1) You can't put the merits of +/- aside when using it to critique a player. That's like saying, "relevance of altitude aside, how can the Himalayas be so cold when they are in a subtropical zone?"

2) To answer your question, Karlsson has played on an incredibly mediocre team with (until recently) questionable goaltending his entire career.

3) I don't think anybody is saying that Karlsson is the best d-man of his generation...just of this draft. I personally think Hedman is very close to overtaking him for that honor.

4) Nobody pretends that Karlsson is some type of a shutdown ace. He's a generational talent in terms of producing offense form the blueline, but plays the defense of an average top pair guy. We don't have any all time greats playing defense in the league right now, so yes, Karlsson is often considered to be a top 2 defender of the 2010s.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Wow... some of these prospects hit a brick wall.

The only one I still have faith for, if anything, is Colin Wilson.

 

[joe dirte]

Also, lol to anybody putting Karlsson above Doughty. Doughty has arguably been the best defenseman in the league for years now.

Well if it's "arguably" then you shouldn't really laugh at someone making an argument.

But I agree, doughty is the easy number 1 pick for me. No other player in the draft can control the game at every area of the ice like he can. He's the kind of player you build Stanley cup and Olympic gold medal winning teams from.

 

[kmo429]

Doughty ahead of Karlsson and Carlson ahead of Pietrangelo is just rough. Also, Henrique top 10? In what fantastical world is Stepan worse than Henrqiue.