New Book HNIC All-Time Rankings

[IggyFan12]

Just saw a book at chapters today that just came out. Hockey Night In Canada released a book ranking the top players in each position by either original 6 era or modern era. Dont have all the rankings just remember a few.

Goalies (Modern)
1)Brodeur
2)Roy
3)Hasek

Defenceman (Modern)
1)Orr
2)Lindstrom
3)Bourque

Center (Modern)
1)Wayne
2)Mario
3)Yzerman
4)Messier
5)Sakic...
9)Crosby

Right Wing (Modern)

Selanne ahead of Jagr.
Iginla 10th

Left Wing (Modern)
Ovi #1

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[unknown33]

Selanne ahead of Jagr.

Must be a typo right?

 

[Epsilon]

As soon as I saw "HNIC" I knew it was going to be a disaster.

And how hard is it for people (not picking on you specifically) to spell "Lidstrom"? It's a totally phonetic name!

 

[kmad]

Thanks for the warning... I will not be buying this book.

Hey - what's stopping the HoH section from releasing a top 100? Gear it towards the real history-heads instead of pandering to new fans. The write-ups this crew could give would be way more informative.

 

[IggyFan12]

Must be a typo right?

Im afraid not

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Thanks for the warning... I will not be buying this book.

Hey - what's stopping the HoH section from releasing a top 100? Gear it towards the real history-heads instead of pandering to new fans. The write-ups this crew could give would be way more informative.

There has been talk on and off about using the ATD as a jump off point to making a Top 1000 players of all time. Personally, I think that's way too ambitious to ever happen.

 

[tony d]

As someone who's new to the drafts we do on here I'd like to see us do something as it relates to our lists. I can guarantee our list would be better than the Hockey News or CBC list.

 

[seventieslord]

Oh my god, those lists are awful. Some absolute tap-ins (like Jagr over Selanne) and they missed them.

 

[Unaffiliated]

what's with the ellipsis after sakic's name?

Selanne ahead of Jagr.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Oh my god, those lists are awful. Some absolute tap-ins (like Jagr over Selanne) and they missed them.

For once we agree but then again aren't these the same geniuses that let the second national anthem go for peanuts etc.?

 

[Kyle McMahon]

Selanne ahead of Jagr...are we to assume that Teemu's mother helped construct this list?

I know there's a few people in here that will probably agree with it, but Messier sandwiched between Yzerman and Sakic? And those two ahead of Espo?

 

[shazariahl]

And you just knew they were going to rank Brodeur ahead of both Hasek and Roy as well...

 

[seventieslord]

And you just knew they were going to rank Brodeur ahead of both Hasek and Roy as well...

I was expecting this.

The media is canonizing for future generations, something that is just so wrong.

 

[Infinite Vision*]

Ranking Brodeur over Hasek would be nearly the equivalent of ranking Lidstom ahead of Orr. Just plain dumb.

 

[RabbinsDuck]

Ranking Brodeur over Hasek would be nearly the equivalent of ranking Lidstom ahead of Orr. Just plain dumb.

Even worse - considering Hasek has played professional hockey for over 26 seasons now (from the age of 16 to 45... and still going), winning at all levels. Orr only had 9 fullish seasons and a smattering of 3 more.

Hasek gets killed for only having 13 NHL seasons, but consistently fails to get noticed for his play outside of the NHL. Even if you completely ignore international play (which always seems to vault someone like Neidermayer) -- 3 Czech league titles (87, 89, 10); 3-time Czech league player of the year; 5-time Czech goalie of the year; 98 Gold at Olympics and Best Goalie of Olympics; Also awarded best goalie at World Championships (85, 87) and best goalie at World Junior Championships (1982 - at 17) -- Hasek's NHL resume alone does trump Brodeur's at a similar rate of Orr over Lidstrom (less wins, but 2 more Harts and two more 'best at position').

But given Hasek was still playing professional hockey, at an elite level, for at least 13 additional years outside of his 13 seasons in the NHL, I believe Lidstrom is a lot closer to Orr than Brodeur is to Hasek.

 

[BraveCanadian]

It is possible that they also have some strange criteria that influences these rankings too.

It may not be quite as bad as it looks at first glance.






But I wouldn't get my hopes up too much

 

[shazariahl]

It is possible that they also have some strange criteria that influences these rankings too.

It may not be quite as bad as it looks at first glance.






But I wouldn't get my hopes up too much

True, I'd love to see the entire list. But I have the feeling the entire list would just make things worse.

 

[Hardyvan123]

Even worse - considering Hasek has played professional hockey for over 26 seasons now (from the age of 16 to 45... and still going), winning at all levels. Orr only had 9 fullish seasons and a smattering of 3 more.

Hasek gets killed for only having 13 NHL seasons, but consistently fails to get noticed for his play outside of the NHL. Even if you completely ignore international play (which always seems to vault someone like Neidermayer) -- 3 Czech league titles (87, 89, 10); 3-time Czech league player of the year; 5-time Czech goalie of the year; 98 Gold at Olympics and Best Goalie of Olympics; Also awarded best goalie at World Championships (85, 87) and best goalie at World Junior Championships (1982 - at 17) -- Hasek's NHL resume alone does trump Brodeur's at a similar rate of Orr over Lidstrom (less wins, but 2 more Harts and two more 'best at position').

But given Hasek was still playing professional hockey, at an elite level, for at least 13 additional years outside of his 13 seasons in the NHL, I believe Lidstrom is a lot closer to Orr than Brodeur is to Hasek.

I agree with this but guys don't rate Lidstrom that highly in this foroum IMO.

 

[Scott1980]

So Malkin is not on this list, eh? I was wondering about that.

 

[overpass]

Even if you completely ignore international play (which always seems to vault someone like Neidermayer) -- 3 Czech league titles (87, 89, 10); 3-time Czech league player of the year; 5-time Czech goalie of the year; 98 Gold at Olympics and Best Goalie of Olympics; Also awarded best goalie at World Championships (85, 87) and best goalie at World Junior Championships (1982 - at 17) --

Yeah, but how many games did he win for Team Canada?