Confirmed with Link: Nathan Horton to Toronto for David Clarkson

[CBJSlash]

From what I seem to remember in other cases. Once it is waived, it is waived.

 

[Samkow]

The new team has the option of officially reinstating it or not. I can't imagine that happened in this case.

 

[db2011]

Rimer was on the FAN on deadline day, (or Tuesday, can't remember) and he said that Horton had no plans to retire. Given by what we have seen certain media members print this season that's been debunked, I'm not ready to throw the towel in on Horton's career yet. Regardless of whatever outcome, the CBJ (through their own faults) couldnt afford to have sit in stands anymore, even if he somehow manages to be ready to go at some point next season

For Horton's sake, I do hope he recovers and regains his former form.

But of course, that would be just the Jackets' luck

 

[CBJSlash]

If Nathan Horton returns and is anything more than a shell of his former self I would be shocked.

 

[BluejacketNut]

Horton would be stupid to try and play professional hockey again. When you go through the worst months of your life, why would you go back to it only to risk it being even worse? If he's somewhat back to a normal life without the surgery, you dont back to doing what probably caused the issue in the first place. His professional hockey career is done, he could probably still get out there and skate with the guys, but he cant return to a collision sport like professional hockey. I would have no sympathy for him if he tried to return and ended right back where he was, you have to be smarter then that

 

[db2011]

If Nathan Horton returns and is anything more than a shell of his former self I would be shocked.

Oh me too.

So, this being the Jackets, prepare to be shocked

 

[CBJSlash]

Oh me too.

So, this being the Jackets, prepare to be shocked

You realize he was traded to the Leafs? The joojoo cancels out.

 

[db2011]

You realize he was traded to the Leafs? The joojoo cancels out.

Heheh

 

[Morlu]

I bet Clarkson isn't here for the all of his contract. He'll be unprotected in an upcoming expansion draft and the new team will have to take him to get to the salary floor.

I'm sorry but players with full NMC have to be protected. Leaf fans were hoping the same thing.

 

[db2011]

I'm sorry but players with full NMC have to be protected. Leaf fans were hoping the same thing.

He's been moved now, though, would that affect things?

 

[Ar-too]

Earlier in the thread it was stated that once it's waived, it's waived. Did we get confirmation on that?

 

[We Want Ten]

Earlier in the thread it was stated that once it's waived, it's waived. Did we get confirmation on that?

Per the CBA:

11.8 Individually Negotiated Limitations on Player Movement.
(a) The SPC of any Player who is a Group 3 Unrestricted Free Agent under Article
10.1(a) may contain a no-Trade or a no-move clause. SPCs containing a no-Trade or a no-move
clause may be entered into prior to the time that the Player is a Group 3 Unrestricted Free Agent
so long as the SPC containing the no-Trade or no-move clause extends through and does not
become effective until the time that the Player qualifies for Group 3 Unrestricted Free Agency.
If the Player is Traded or claimed on Waivers prior to the no-Trade or no-move clause taking
effect, the clause does not bind the acquiring Club. An acquiring Club may agree to continue to
be bound by the no-Trade or no-move clause, which agreement shall be evidenced in writing to
the Player, Central Registry and the NHLPA, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof.

I didn't see anything about after the clause takes effect, only before.

 

[Dr. Fire]

Poor, poor Clarkson. Sure as hell didn't take him long to fit into the CBJ system.

That would be the medical system!

 

[db2011]

Per the CBA:



I didn't see anything about after the clause takes effect, only before.

So potentially Clarkson isn't as difficult to trade since he has been traded, provided Jarmo didn't agree to keep the NTC/NMC clause intact upon acquiring him? If jarmo had the ability to get out from under those restrictions then I sure hope he did it.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

]So potentially Clarkson isn't as difficult to trade[/B] since he has been traded, provided Jarmo didn't agree to keep the NTC/NMC clause intact upon acquiring him? If jarmo had the ability to get out from under those restrictions then I sure hope he did it.

If the NMC is no longer in force, then, yes, he'll be potentially easier to trade.

About 0.5% easier

 

[We Want Ten]

So potentially Clarkson isn't as difficult to trade since he has been traded, provided Jarmo didn't agree to keep the NTC/NMC clause intact upon acquiring him? If jarmo had the ability to get out from under those restrictions then I sure hope he did it.

Problem is I could only find provisions regarding trades before the NMC/NTC clause took affect, which Clarkson does not fall into. I couldn't find a clause regrading a situation like Clarkson.

I don't think Clarkson waiving his NMC/NTC to come to Columbus means its gone. I'd imagine its still in play. I hope i'm wrong.

 

[BluejacketNut]

Isnt that how we got Carter? His no whichever clause hadnt kicked in yet.

 

[EspenK]

Isnt that how we got Carter? His no whichever clause hadnt kicked in yet.

As luck would have it, I believe you are right.

 

[EspenK]

Per the CBA:



I didn't see anything about after the clause takes effect, only before.

I would think then that the clause stays with the contract. I remember there was some discussion about this involving Gaborik. I'm going to see if I can find it.

 

[1995]

Can't believe we send you guys a perfectly good Clarkson and you break him. Good going guys.

 

[Socks]

Can't believe we send you guys a perfectly good Clarkson and you break him. Good going guys.

We're the Jackets. We would break Superman.

 

[Matthew]

Stinger is kryptonite.