Value of: Nate Schmidt (VGK) at the TDL
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A crazy, way above his average season followed by a steroid suspension?
Probably way too soon to gauge his value right now
Probably way too soon to gauge his value right now
WTFMAN99
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Absolutely, but I outlined the scenario that they can't come to an agreement on an extension and they're out of the playoffs. They could let him walk as they literally try to get as much time as possible to sign him but I am trying to look at it from an asset management stand point. Better to get something than nothing right?
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It's like Tavares. You take the chance of not moving the player to try and keep him. Not trading him may go a long way in showing that the team genuinely wants the player there. It's also an extra 3.5 months to work out the details of a negotiation, which is more than ample time for either party to change their mind.
It would really depend on how the negotiations have gone so far, which at best we'll only know an inkling of. Without knowing those details (how close they are, how much they've talked, the amount of mutual interest, etc.), it's impossible to speculate accurately on the likelihood of being traded.
The only way I see this happening is if Schmidt himself wants to move on, Vegas believes last year was an anomaly, and they try to begin acquiring assets for the future. I'd be quite surprised if this turns out to be the case.
CupInSIX
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Why would he be unwilling to sign? Who values him more than Vegas?
Why would Vegas give up their #1 defenseman for a late 1st?
nonono none of this makes any sense at all
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When Vegas initially grabbed Schmidt in the expansion draft, they tried to go long term and Schmidt turned it down.
If it's let Schmidt walk for nothing and get a late 1st (or a late 1st+something), makes sense to grab something right?
CupInSIX
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They went to arbitration and settled on 2 years. Why would Schmidt commit his UFA years to an organization that just started to exist?
No that makes absolutely no sense. They'd have 3 months after the deadline to talk contract, plus the 8 year option.
Giving up your #1d, who you want to re-sign, is asinine.
If he didn't go and get himself suspended he probably would have been extended by now.
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Okay but rather than go back and forth with this, assume Schmidt has indicated he will not be re-signing. It's literally the entire point of this thread, let's not plug our fingers in our ears and go " la la la la" he's a pending UFA, Vegas hasn't started well, there is a chance he is going to be moved at the deadline, that's a fact. Let's talk about his value at the trade deadline.
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The problem is that is a big assumption to make. It would be akin to assuming Matthews asks for a trade because he's unhappy with Toronto's negotiations and not being named captain. It it unbelievably crazy? No. Is it going to happen? Almost certainly not.
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If a UFA isn't signed at the deadline he should be traded.
For Schmidt I would want a younger D plus in return.
For example Hanifin or Valimaki and additional picks from CGY.
For Schmidt I would want a younger D plus in return.
For example Hanifin or Valimaki and additional picks from CGY.
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He won't be making $925K any longer, his last salary with the Capitals.
The Caps can't easily afford him at what will surely be his rich new contract. The Capitals' top four of Carlson, Niskanen, Orlov, and Kempny is set at $21.35M. They would have to move one of their current top three defensemen to fit him.
Schmidt is going to get paid, probably in the $6M/yr range plus. I tend to think he re-ups with Vegas for $48M or so. He's got them by the short and curlies. It's also been a really good fit for him.
The Caps can't easily afford him at what will surely be his rich new contract. The Capitals' top four of Carlson, Niskanen, Orlov, and Kempny is set at $21.35M. They would have to move one of their current top three defensemen to fit him.
Schmidt is going to get paid, probably in the $6M/yr range plus. I tend to think he re-ups with Vegas for $48M or so. He's got them by the short and curlies. It's also been a really good fit for him.
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Yeah, you know, when you phrase it like that, it was kinda weird that Nate Schmidt just learned how to git gud.
He made $925K base salary when he was a Washington Capital through June 2017, which was a rate at which they could certainly afford him. He was a fantastic player for the Capitals at that salary.
His next contract is going to be well beyond this range, obviously, and well beyond his current two-year salary with Vegas, since he is now a proven No.1 defenseman with Finals experience in that role. Fitting him in at his UFA ask would require the Capitals to move another big salary now, like Oshie or Orlov. Fond memories, but he's outgrown the utility role he had in Washington. Since then, the Caps have replaced him and flourished.
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Not happening. He's going to command far too much money to make that work, and the Capitals re-upped Kempny for the 2LD slot anyway.
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Sure, Hanifin is a pipe dream haha
but Valimaki I don't think so.
Vegas should have drafted Valimaki instead of Suzuki.
