My updated 2012 Draft

[scoutman1]

Here is my top 60 for 2012 NHL draft


1. Mikhail Grigorenko—For—CSKA MHL 6’02/183 27 09 07 16
2. Nail Yakupov—Forward—Sarnia 5’11/168 32 22 25 47
3. Nick Ebert—Defense—Windsor 6’01/190 32 08 18 26
4. Michael Matheson—Defense—Lac St Louis 6’01/170 00 00 00 00
5. Derrick Pouliot—Defense—Portland 5’11/170 35 04 14 18
6. Morgan Reilly--Defence—Moose Jaw 5’11/178 34 04 15 19
7. Ryan Murray—Defense—Everett 6’00/185 36 02 13 15
8. Matia Marcantuoni—F—Kitchener 6’00/180 32 09 15 24
9. Martin Frk—Forward--Halifax 5’11/190 34 11 20 31
10. Griffin Reinhart—Defense—Edmonton 6’04/205 33 04 13 17
11. Alex Galchenyuk—Forward—Sarnia 6’01/180 33 09 24 33
12. Jacob Trouba—Defense—NTDP U17 6’01/183 15 03 03 06
13. Olli Maatta—Defense—JYP Minor 6’01/181 17 01 05 06
14. Sebastian Collberg—F—Mariestad J20 5’11/170 26 17 16 33
15. Filip Forsberg—Forward—Leksand U20 6’00/176 26 14 15 29
16. Matt Dumba—Defense—Red Deer 6’00/172 36 09 03 12
17. Oscar Dansk—Goalie—Shattuck 6’03/183 00 00 2.44 .911
18. Luca Ciampini—Forward—Halifax 5’11/195 22 07 08 15
19. Slater Koekkoek—Defense—Petterborough 6’02/190 33 05 11 16
20. Brendan Gaunce—F—Belleville 6’02/210 35 06 12 18
21. Tomas Hertl—F—HC Slavia Praha U20 6’03/187 18 10 20 30
22. Jordan Schmaltz—D—Souix City 6’02/175 12 01 05 06
23. Niklas Folin—Defense—Frolunda J20 6’00/165 09 00 01 01
24. AJ Michaelson—Forward—Apple Valley 6’00/185 09 13 07 20
25. Henrik Samuelsson—F—NTDP U17 6’02/193 15 03 03 06
26. Jarrod Maidens—Forward—Owen Sound 6’01/170 19 04 03 07
27. Scott Laughton—Forward—Oshawa 6’01/170 31 09 07 16
28. Cody Ceci—Defense—Ottawa 6’02/190 35 01 10 11
29. Zemgus Girgensons--F--Dubuque USHL 6’01/182 18 10 08 18
30. Taylor Burke—Forward—Gatineau 6’00/185 29 03 08 11

31. Adam Pelech—Defense—Erie 6’02/202 29 01 04 05
32. Dillon Fournier—D—Lewiston 6’01/160 32 02 04 06
33. Dominic Poulin—Defense—Chicoutimi 6’01/187 30 01 05 06
34. Marcus McIvor—Defense—Brampton 6’02/190 25 01 03 04
35. Matthew Campagna—F—Sudbury 5’11/165 22 01 05 06
36. Reid Gow—Defense—Spokan 5’11/170 19 02 05 07
37. Dalton Thrower—Defense—Saskatoon 6’00/195 28 02 04 06
38. Mike Winther—Forward—Prince Albert 5’11/170 34 07 00 07
39. Chandler Stephenson—F—Regina 5’09/170 27 04 07 11
40. Julien Leduc—Defense—Val-d’Or 6’00/180 33 02 12 14
41. Francis Beauvillier—F—Lewiston 6’00/165 27 04 06 10
42. Kalle Torniainen—Forward—Djurg U18 5’10/172 10 06 11 17
43. Petr Sidlik—D—HC Dukla Jihlava Minor 5’11/168 14 00 01 01
44. Andrew Ryan—Forward—Halifax 6’02/186 26 05 02 07
45. Brandon Troock—Forward—Seattle 0’00/000 00 00 00 00
46. Erik Karlsson—Forward—Frolunda J20 5’11/154 14 03 06 09
47. Calle Andersson—Defense—Malmo J20 6’02/185 16 02 04 06
48. Gianluca Curcuruto—Defense—SSM 6’01/180 28 00 09 09
49. Charles Hudon—Forward—Chicoutimi 5’08/165 30 08 12 20
50. Brady Skjei—Defense—USA U17 6’01/183 24 03 08 11
51. Jake McCabe—Defense—NTDP U18 5’11/170 52 00 08 08
52. Ryan Olsen—Forward—Saskatoon 0’00/000 27 03 01 04
53. Francois Tremblay—G—Val-d’Or 6’02/194 04 06 4.01 .867
54. Chris Marchese—Forward— Erie 6’00/200 32 03 07 10
55. Matthew Finn—Defense—Guelph 6’00/195 33 02 07 09
56. Frank Vatrano—Forward—USA U17 5’10/214 22 08 07 15
57. Jesse Graham—Defense—Niagra 5’11/145 27 00 07 07
58. Andreas Athanasious—F—London 6’00/165 25 08 04 12
59. Nickolas Latta—Forward—Sarnia 6’00/161 26 06 02 08
60. Miles Koules—Forward—USA U17 5’10/176 24 10 06 16

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[OilerOlli*]

Don't think the team that pick #10 has the luck that Reinhart still will be there.

 

[pouskin74*]

Here is my top 60 for 2012 NHL draft


1. Mikhail Grigorenko—For—CSKA MHL 6’02/183 27 09 07 16
2. Nail Yakupov—Forward—Sarnia 5’11/168 32 22 25 47
3. Nick Ebert—Defense—Windsor 6’01/190 32 08 18 26
4. Michael Matheson—Defense—Lac St Louis 6’01/170 00 00 00 00
5. Derrick Pouliot—Defense—Portland 5’11/170 35 04 14 18
6. Morgan Reilly--Defence—Moose Jaw 5’11/178 34 04 15 19
7. Ryan Murray—Defense—Everett 6’00/185 36 02 13 15
8. Matia Marcantuoni—F—Kitchener 6’00/180 32 09 15 24
9. Martin Frk—Forward--Halifax 5’11/190 34 11 20 31
10. Griffin Reinhart—Defense—Edmonton 6’04/205 33 04 13 17
11. Alex Galchenyuk—Forward—Sarnia 6’01/180 33 09 24 33
12. Jacob Trouba—Defense—NTDP U17 6’01/183 15 03 03 06
13. Olli Maatta—Defense—JYP Minor 6’01/181 17 01 05 06
14. Sebastian Collberg—F—Mariestad J20 5’11/170 26 17 16 33
15. Filip Forsberg—Forward—Leksand U20 6’00/176 26 14 15 29
16. Matt Dumba—Defense—Red Deer 6’00/172 36 09 03 12
17. Oscar Dansk—Goalie—Shattuck 6’03/183 00 00 2.44 .911
18. Luca Ciampini—Forward—Halifax 5’11/195 22 07 08 15
19. Slater Koekkoek—Defense—Petterborough 6’02/190 33 05 11 16
20. Brendan Gaunce—F—Belleville 6’02/210 35 06 12 18
21. Tomas Hertl—F—HC Slavia Praha U20 6’03/187 18 10 20 30
22. Jordan Schmaltz—D—Souix City 6’02/175 12 01 05 06
23. Niklas Folin—Defense—Frolunda J20 6’00/165 09 00 01 01
24. AJ Michaelson—Forward—Apple Valley 6’00/185 09 13 07 20
25. Henrik Samuelsson—F—NTDP U17 6’02/193 15 03 03 06
26. Jarrod Maidens—Forward—Owen Sound 6’01/170 19 04 03 07
27. Scott Laughton—Forward—Oshawa 6’01/170 31 09 07 16
28. Cody Ceci—Defense—Ottawa 6’02/190 35 01 10 11
29. Zemgus Girgensons--F--Dubuque USHL 6’01/182 18 10 08 18
30. Taylor Burke—Forward—Gatineau 6’00/185 29 03 08 11

31. Adam Pelech—Defense—Erie 6’02/202 29 01 04 05
32. Dillon Fournier—D—Lewiston 6’01/160 32 02 04 06
33. Dominic Poulin—Defense—Chicoutimi 6’01/187 30 01 05 06
34. Marcus McIvor—Defense—Brampton 6’02/190 25 01 03 04
35. Matthew Campagna—F—Sudbury 5’11/165 22 01 05 06
36. Reid Gow—Defense—Spokan 5’11/170 19 02 05 07
37. Dalton Thrower—Defense—Saskatoon 6’00/195 28 02 04 06
38. Mike Winther—Forward—Prince Albert 5’11/170 34 07 00 07
39. Chandler Stephenson—F—Regina 5’09/170 27 04 07 11
40. Julien Leduc—Defense—Val-d’Or 6’00/180 33 02 12 14
41. Francis Beauvillier—F—Lewiston 6’00/165 27 04 06 10
42. Kalle Torniainen—Forward—Djurg U18 5’10/172 10 06 11 17
43. Petr Sidlik—D—HC Dukla Jihlava Minor 5’11/168 14 00 01 01
44. Andrew Ryan—Forward—Halifax 6’02/186 26 05 02 07
45. Brandon Troock—Forward—Seattle 0’00/000 00 00 00 00
46. Erik Karlsson—Forward—Frolunda J20 5’11/154 14 03 06 09
47. Calle Andersson—Defense—Malmo J20 6’02/185 16 02 04 06
48. Gianluca Curcuruto—Defense—SSM 6’01/180 28 00 09 09
49. Charles Hudon—Forward—Chicoutimi 5’08/165 30 08 12 20
50. Brady Skjei—Defense—USA U17 6’01/183 24 03 08 11
51. Jake McCabe—Defense—NTDP U18 5’11/170 52 00 08 08
52. Ryan Olsen—Forward—Saskatoon 0’00/000 27 03 01 04
53. Francois Tremblay—G—Val-d’Or 6’02/194 04 06 4.01 .867
54. Chris Marchese—Forward— Erie 6’00/200 32 03 07 10
55. Matthew Finn—Defense—Guelph 6’00/195 33 02 07 09
56. Frank Vatrano—Forward—USA U17 5’10/214 22 08 07 15
57. Jesse Graham—Defense—Niagra 5’11/145 27 00 07 07
58. Andreas Athanasious—F—London 6’00/165 25 08 04 12
59. Nickolas Latta—Forward—Sarnia 6’00/161 26 06 02 08
60. Miles Koules—Forward—USA U17 5’10/176 24 10 06 16

i think you should take a look at Nikolai Prohorkin 1993 and born same day with Ovechkin very skilled and sized( 6.2 and 180) with good stats in MHL. i think its not fare that we dont see him among TOP 60

 

[JeromeHP]

Little bit surprised to see Matheson at 4 but no doubt he's a great talent

btw here his stats 25gp-11g-18a-29pts-62pim with Lac St-Louis

 

[cheerupmurray]

Scoutman1 whats your opinon on Pontus Åberg (lateborn 93)? He seems to be rare kind of swedish player, a true sniper. Was very impressive in the Ivan Hlinka tournament. Other lateborn 93 swedes that migh be in the mix 2012 is Mikael Vikstrand (Mora) and to a lesser degree Emil Lundberg (Södertälje). Vikstrand looks super solid and allready plays against men in SEL-2, Lundberg is really big (6´3) and produces well on a crappy team in Superelit, but might have an issue with his skating.

 

[R S]

Reinhart needs to be higher. In my mind he is right there with Ryan Murray in regards to WHL defenders. And both of them should be higher on your list.

 

[The Saw Is the Law]

Nice to see only -94 born player in WJC noticed in list.

13. Olli Maatta—Defense—JYP Minor 6’01/181 17 01 05 06

 

[4Isles4*]

Keep hearing its all Yakapov and Ebert so far.....what is Eberts scouting report...thanks

 

[scoutman1]

I have never seen Pontus play in my life so I can not give you anything on him...

I put Matheson so high because of his skating and puck carring ability, people do not really know too much about him yet, but his skating is better than anyone I have seen in a long time, he is IMO just as skilled as Derrick Pouliot but a way better skater, bigger and more poised.....

Also I have some guys ahead of Murray because I have seen them all play, and to me after Reilly, Pouliot get another year under there belts in the CHL I think they might take a step ahead of Murray, that is just my take on it.

I have Reinhart lower for no reason, he is an amazing talent, I would like to see him improve his skating a bit more, and the games I did see of him I would like to see him use his size and physical play more.

Ebert I have 3rd because to me he is everything, the most offensivly gifted dman in the draft and a very good in his own zone and strong too...I think he is a super skilled player, and a potential franchise dman in the making, with Grigorenko being Russian and Yakupov and teams might not want to chance on them too...I would not be shocked to see Ebert go 1st overall if teams get scared of the russian factor.

 

[S E P H]

I have never seen Pontus play in my life so I can not give you anything on him...

I put Matheson so high because of his skating and puck carring ability, people do not really know too much about him yet, but his skating is better than anyone I have seen in a long time, he is IMO just as skilled as Derrick Pouliot but a way better skater, bigger and more poised.....

Also I have some guys ahead of Murray because I have seen them all play, and to me after Reilly, Pouliot get another year under there belts in the CHL I think they might take a step ahead of Murray, that is just my take on it.

I have Reinhart lower for no reason, he is an amazing talent, I would like to see him improve his skating a bit more, and the games I did see of him I would like to see him use his size and physical play more.

Ebert I have 3rd because to me he is everything, the most offensivly gifted dman in the draft and a very good in his own zone and strong too...I think he is a super skilled player, and a potential franchise dman in the making, with Grigorenko being Russian and Yakupov and teams might not want to chance on them too...I would not be shocked to see Ebert go 1st overall if teams get scared of the russian factor.

Do you see this being the best draft since 2008?

 

[Daneurism]

Seeing that you have Marcantuoni above Galchenyuk, can you give a brief reasoning as to why?

(No sass from my end, just seems that Galchenyuk has gotten the vast majority of the hype and Marcantuoni hasn't received much pres)

 

[scoutman1]

Seeing that you have Marcantuoni above Galchenyuk, can you give a brief reasoning as to why?

(No sass from my end, just seems that Galchenyuk has gotten the vast majority of the hype and Marcantuoni hasn't received much pres)

I like Marcantuoni's speed, physical play, and all around play, he is a great all around player with explosive offensive ability, Galchenyuk is imo amazing hockey player himself and could vary well pass Marcantuoni in the long run, I love both players, I just like watching the all around game of marcantuoni and how he is able to play in any situation on the ice with explosive speed and offensive ability. Galchenyuk like I said there is nothing wrong with him as a player I think he is a future star player with excellent hands with the puck, shooting ability and good playmaking.


to another quote above I do see this being a great draft like 2008...and people will think this guy should be ahead of this guy like Reinhart should be higher but IMO sometimes it is hard to move a player up who in other drafts would be higher because the guys ranked in front of him are just as good IMO.

 

[IFK]

Nice to see only -94 born player in WJC noticed in list.

I think this is or could be the all time best defender age group what we have had ever in Finland.

Yes it is and he is not the only one -94 born Finnish defender who has potential to be in 1-2 round pick. There is also at least Ville Pokka 182 cm/6'0" tall and weight is 85 kg/187 lbs. He play regular in Kärpät Jr. A SM-liiga and have made points 22 game 1+11=12 which are best point in every under 18 defender's point in that league. He has also play 1 game in FNL against men and Mestis (second highest league in Finland) 3 game and have made points 0+3=3. Now he plays international tournament in Finnish U17 team. Ville Pokka

Then we have at least:
Mikko Lehtonen
Mikko Vainonen
Markus Kojo
Otso Rantakari

And 2013 draft:
Rasmus Ristolainen
Jimi Kuronen

 

[Garyboy]

Jesse Graham will go much higher.

 

[GetThePuckOut]

Matt Dumba will go top ten.

 

[R S]

Matt Dumba will go top ten.

The one "big name" WHL defenseman for 2012 that I haven't seen live yet. Sounds like a real player.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Jesse Graham will go much higher.

I agree, next season they will be talking about him being a Ryan Ellis clone. The way this kid can skate and move the puck is unreal. Once he puts on some strength/weight to improve hit shot and physical game, he will shoot up the rankings.

 

[GetThePuckOut]

The one "big name" WHL defenseman for 2012 that I haven't seen live yet. Sounds like a real player.

4 assists tonight against the USA.

The kid is built like a brick house, is mean and has a lot of skills. The kind of package GM's love.

 

[R S]

4 assists tonight against the USA.

The kid is built like a brick house, is mean and has a lot of skills. The kind of package GM's love.

Wow.

I have been blown away by Griffin Reinhart and Ryan Murray in the WHL this year, so it will be very very tough for Dumba to get ahead of those two in my books. But it sounds like he is up for the challenge.

 

[PGCougarsDynasty]

Troy Bourke is a player that seems to be overlooked. Watching him in games this season he's been a solid contributor for the cougars ( 21 points in 34 games and a +8). I believe he has five points in five games for Pacific. He isn't really that small for his age; he will most likely grow at 5'10 170. I would go so far as to say he is just as good as Brett Connolly at 16', but with a better defensive game.

 

[Bure]

Yakupov could be drafted this year , simply on what hes already done, i cant wait to see what he can do in the NHL

 

[BigD66]

Matt Dumba will go top ten.

Another 2 assists for Dumba today against Quebec. Finishes the tourney with 12 points.

According to the Hockey Canada website he finishes 1st in points for all skaters

 

[Torts]

Alex Galchenyuk
Matia Marcantuoni
Henrik Samuelson
Scott Laughton
Brendan Gaunce

all great players

 

[Rshields]

I can’t comment on any but the Dud players as I haven’t seen much of the others except Koekkoek. I think you have the Dub dmen right for now even with Dumba’s big numbers at the U-17. Reilly has the biggest upside, but seems to disappear at times. He was the same at Notre Dame but got better late in the season. He has some great games and then looks pretty ordinary in some.
Do you realize you have Winther as the top forward in the west? Good luck on that one.

 

[bberry]

In my opinion Reilly probably has the least pro upside of the "big four". (Reinhart, Reilly, Dumba, Pouliot) and Ryan Murray leads that crop at this point.