GAGLine
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Value of: Moving Zibanajad to 2c
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Trading Larkin would make Valterri Filppula our #1 C. So yeah, it's not happening.
zib had a great year, but I don't know why, but something about zib doesn't quite rub me right. I just feel he is too streaky and pots empty points at times
I just think a team with zib as a 1C won't win a cup, but that's my own opinion
I just think a team with zib as a 1C won't win a cup, but that's my own opinion
KingDeathMetal
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Zibanejad is a Top 10 Center, and it's not debatable. He's been great not only last season but the last two seasons, super consistent, and he keeps getting better. He was on pace for almost 60 goals and 100+ pts in an 82 game seasons and would have likely wound up with 50/90 if he finished the season, even after missing 15 games early on. How many other Centers could even get lucky and do that in one season?
Only thing that is keeping Zibby from being a number one center is staying healthy. Not sure what else he could have done last year to be considered a 1C? And the thing people always overlook is his ability to play both ends of the ice and pk very well.
DingDongCharlie
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Zib is absolutely a #1C and with the collection of talent on the wings I don’t see his production dropping anytime soon. Rangers need #2. Not sure who the target should be. Lots of team looking for a top 6c right now but least a #2 is a realistic possibility to add. A better C than Zibby is going to cost you Laf or something similar and that’s if someone even considers a top 1c available for even a talented wing prospect like Laf.
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Even when Johansen broke out offensively many posters on the BJ board questioned his work ethic/motivation. I’ve never once seen anyone mention franchise C and Johansen in the same sentence until now. If someone said it it certainly wasn’t the opinion shared by the majority.
Eric Staal was an insane talent who other than a few different points in his career never played up the level I felt he could. Bergeron is a terrible comparison as he’s always been a gamer and a two way force on the ice. Staal couldn’t even hold a center position his entire career as he’s been shifted to wing also.
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Not sure if serious? Smith and staal = cap dumps. 3 likely late firsts?
Too much NHL 20 for you this quarantine... they get 1 good (?) roster player back for Eichel? In what world
Personally I’m a leafs fan but I would take Tavares over Zib and he’s far from a top 10 centre.
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Staal was a playoff rental. Apples and oranges.
Ryjo is more fair, but
1. not an upgrade over Zib
2. Do you have a Seth Jones equivalent to offer? (And no, ADA isn’t close)
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Why don't you list your top 20 centers and why you feel they're in the top 20.
Jesus Christ, Zibanejad can score 200 points and this board will call him a 2C. What does a bottom 20 1C mean? That's he's not in the top 10? Oh no, he must suck!
mm11
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from a NYI fan perspective, Zibby looks like a #1 center to me. What do I know, I'm some guy tickling 5 irons in NE Florida these days
McDavid
Mackinnon
Crosby
Malkin
Drais
Eichel
Mathews
Kopitar
Bergeron
O’Rielly
Tavares
Seguin
Barzel
Pattersson
Stamkos
Towes
Schifele
Aho
Barkov
There is 20 centres undisputedly better then Zibby imo.
uh... wut?
yeah, no he's not
McDavid, Eichel, Bergeron, Draisaitl, Stamkos, Crosby, Malkin, Point, Matthews, Barkov, Mackinnon, Scheifele are all clearly ahead of Zibanejad at thats already 12 centers, with argument for more
and this is also arguing on behalf of Zibanejad after a career year, which I don't know how sustainable it is for him to continue on scoring at 40 or 50+ goal pace when his previous high was only 30, and he did it only once with previous highs of just 27 and 21 goals
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I like Stamkos, but I'm not sure I have him as a better center than Zibby. Stamkos moving back and forth to wing doesn't just take place because Tampa is loaded with unreal talent, it happens because Tampa had centers playing better.
Kopitar hasn't been a top 20 center the last 2 seasons.
Toews is a hard working center where leadership and prior success has him in your top 20. You can argue he's a more important winning piece, but I don't think he's currently a better center.
I don't trust Scheifele on taking the faceoff. I think if you;'re comparing careers, Scheifele has had more success and has been more established, but Zibanejad has been the better play over the last 2 years. Forget this year, which might not be sustainable, what he was able to accomplish last year with a worse NYR team was incredible.
You also only listed 19 players.
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How does that list change that Zibanejad was a 1c, especially using teams that currently have more than 1 real 1c? Career stats mean what exactly? Currently, Zibanejad is a 1C, until he stops playing like a 1c. Arguing it's not sustainable is fair, but currently he's a 1c. Zibanejad had 40 points in his last 44 or so games last season, while playing a 200 foot game. He didn't just lace them up this season and take off.
