Most off-the-board pick of all-time

[Moose Lips]

Alexander Daigle at #1

Any team at that time with the 1st pick would have easily chosen him. It would have been an off-the-board pick if someone was picked before him though.

 

[Lobstertainment]

The japanese guy is deffintly most off the board.

all these other off the board picks have at least played hockey.

 

[12# Peter Bondra]

Salei being picked 9th OA despite being 22 years old at the time seems a bit strange.

If he was so good, why wasnt he drafted earlier?

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Salei being picked 9th OA despite being 22 years old at the time seems a bit strange.

If he was so good, why wasnt he drafted earlier?

re-entry maybe?

 

[helicecopter]

I would guess Pavel Bure in 1989

 

[Jumptheshark]

Nucks with Libor Polasek

all his reports were based on two games the scouts saw

Tony Hand by the oilers

 

[john g]

Most successful off-the-board pick -- Pavel Bure

Kudos to the 'Nucks for doing due diligence

 

[GKJ]

Pretty much.

They felt he was the most skilled/talented player in the entire draft (which really wasn't a stretch as the guy has incredible natural skill).

He missed the whole year before due to a torn abdominal muscle, if I remember correctly and has had problems with that and other injuries ever since.

There is probably not a SINGLE PICK in the history of the draft as bizarre as the selection of Foster (at least as a 1st round pick).

I remember watching that pick, there was a long delay because not only was he not even ranked, but the CSB didn't even have him in their database. The Devils knew they were taking him because they told him to be at the draft.

 

[hototogisu]

Most successful off-the-board pick -- Pavel Bure

Kudos to the 'Nucks for doing due diligence

I think some people here are confused as to the meaning of "off the board". It doesn't mean getting a steal in the later rounds of a draft, it means picking a player well before he was expected to be drafted, regardless of how well that player actually turns out. Pavel Bure was a steal, but he wasn't an off the board pick.

 

[Form and Substance]

I remember the Foster pick very well, not only was it off the board but it was his second year of eligibility as well. The guy literally averages about 12 games a year.

 

[SomeDude]

I think some people here are confused as to the meaning of "off the board". It doesn't mean getting a steal in the later rounds of a draft, it means picking a player well before he was expected to be drafted, regardless of how well that player actually turns out. Pavel Bure was a steal, but he wasn't an off the board pick.

Well, seeing as it was thought he was going to be drafted in 1990, it was off the board. Kind of similar to what Florida tried with Ovechkin, except Vancouver actually pulled it off.

 

[Fire Everyone]

I think some people here are confused as to the meaning of "off the board". It doesn't mean getting a steal in the later rounds of a draft, it means picking a player well before he was expected to be drafted, regardless of how well that player actually turns out. Pavel Bure was a steal, but he wasn't an off the board pick.

It was expected Bure would be drafted the next year. He wasn't even thought to be eligible for that draft. It was an off the board pick.

 

[john g]

Well, seeing as it was thought he was going to be drafted in 1990, it was off the board. Kind of similar to what Florida tried with Ovechkin, except Vancouver actually pulled it off.

exactly my point -- he wasnt overlooked, Vancouver did their research and did not accept what data was presented to them as to his eligibility. his pick is more akin to Dovgan, rather than Ovechkin (leap year I think was FLA's claim). in Dovgan's case it was an age miscalcuation and Bure's was games eligibility

 

[helicecopter]

Well, seeing as it was thought he was going to be drafted in 1990, it was off the board. Kind of similar to what Florida tried with Ovechkin, except Vancouver actually pulled it off.

Obviously that's what i meant..

I think some people here are confused as to the meaning of "off the board". It doesn't mean getting a steal in the later rounds of a draft, it means picking a player well before he was expected to be drafted, regardless of how well that player actually turns out. Pavel Bure was a steal, but he wasn't an off the board pick.

hey dude, are you saying me you were thinking Bure was known to be available for everyone in the '89 draft and being selected in the 6th round he went well before than expected?!?
cause that's someone i would call 'confused' !

 

[hototogisu]

You guys are right, I totally forgot about the year loophole thing that allowed Bure to be drafted a year earlier. Although because it happened in the sixth round, it's still not really off the board. Maybe if they had tried in round one or two...

 

[discostu]

yeah. haha. they did. it allmost worked too.

By almost worked, you mean the league simply outright refusing the owner's attempt to re-define the entire concept of age, on a move that was so outrageous, that even Rick Dudley was embarrassed by it.

 

[Inside McKenzie]

now thats off the board, lol.


i just looked at he's stats. he played 5 games in hes draft year, 27 the year after that. and in he's first year as a pro he played 9 games. then he actually played some games, 44 games followed by 51. and then it was back to the usuall. 8 games in 05/06 and 10 games this season.

whats up with him?? is he the most injury prone player ever??

The most off the board pick was from the Calgary Flames in 1987 - they drafted a player who had died in a car accident 3 months prior to the draft.

 

[john g]

The most off the board pick was from the Calgary Flames in 1987 - they drafted a player who had died in a car accident 3 months prior to the draft.

who?

looking at their picks from '87 they all played past that year. I think that was a CFL pick

 

[sk84fun_dc]

The most off the board pick was from the Calgary Flames in 1987 - they drafted a player who had died in a car accident 3 months prior to the draft.

Are you referring to Pelawa, a 1986 pick? I believe the accident occurred later in the summer after he was drafted by Calgary.

 

[Natey]

The most off the board pick was from the Calgary Flames in 1987 - they drafted a player who had died in a car accident 3 months prior to the draft.

You're referring to George Pelawa.. who was a 1st Round Pick in 1986. He died three months AFTER the draft, just prior to Training Camp.

However, in 1988, Calgary did draft a player by the name of, Stefan Nilsson, who was in fact dead before the Draft happened.

Apparently, Calgary didn't have a scout full-time in Sweden, and they screwed up the team name. There were two Stefan Nilsson's in the draft, and Vancouver 5 rounds later selected the one who was alive.

A are a few other times a dead player has been selected. It happened once in the NBA Draft (I read a book once, he was picked second to last..).. and it happened once to the Ottawa Roughriders(Renegades) in the CFL.. but I can't find the link.


BTW: The most recent off the board pick would be Devin Setoguchi wouldn't it? Actually trading up so to get him?

 

[sk84fun_dc]

You're referring to George Pelawa.. who was a 1st Round Pick in 1986. He died three months AFTER the draft, just prior to Training Camp.

However, in 1988, Calgary did draft a player by the name of, Stefan Nilsson, who was in fact dead before the Draft happened.

Apparently, Calgary didn't have a scout full-time in Sweden, and they screwed up the team name. There were two Stefan Nilsson's in the draft, and Vancouver 5 rounds later selected the one who was alive.

A are a few other times a dead player has been selected. It happened once in the NBA Draft (I read a book once, he was picked second to last..).. and it happened once to the Ottawa Roughriders(Renegades) in the CFL.. but I can't find the link.


BTW: The most recent off the board pick would be Devin Setoguchi wouldn't it? Actually trading up so to get him?

???

http://www.eurohockey.net/players/show_player.cgi?serial=236

 

[Danrik]

6th Round, 113th overall... Pavel Bure


That shocked a lot of people.

 

[MS]

Pretty much.

They felt he was the most skilled/talented player in the entire draft (which really wasn't a stretch as the guy has incredible natural skill).

He missed the whole year before due to a torn abdominal muscle, if I remember correctly and has had problems with that and other injuries ever since.

There is probably not a SINGLE PICK in the history of the draft as bizarre as the selection of Foster (at least as a 1st round pick).

It wasn't nearly as off the board as the guys on TV doing the draft made it out to be, and there was absolutely no excuse for him not to be in the NHL computers.

Foster was very well known, and was talked to death on this board leading into the 2001 draft. As you say, outstanding natural skill - was pretty much on the same level as Heatley when they played together in 1999 despite being a year younger.

He'd looked very good in his brief WHL stint that year, and everyone knew he'd be drafted relatively high. Some people said 4th-5th round, some people said 3rd round. I said he'd go between 40-60, which didn't end up being far off at all. And it turned out that there were a few teams (Philly was one mentioned) who were going to snap him up in the 2nd round if NJ hadn't nabbed him where they did.

 

[Ruckus007]

It's gotta be Foster, right? There are some good suggestions but none really come close to that pick.

 

[TheTruth]

Nucks with Libor Polasek

all his reports were based on two games the scouts saw

Tony Hand by the oilers

I read a story on Hand in THN a couple issues back. Seems like he could have been a good one had he been willing to spend a couple years in the minors for seasoning.