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Marc Bergevin

Marc Bergevin

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I think my team needs a good 2nd line RW to play with Poehling and Droin but there is no one in my team today that could take that role in 2 or 3 years...please guys give me some ideas and proposal... ( Young players please )

1: Domi----------Kotkaniemi----------Suzuki
2: Drouin--------Poehling--------------?
3: Tatar----------Danault--------------Gallagher
4: Lehkonen---*Prospect-------------Armia

1: ---?-----------------Weber
2: Mete---------------Brook
3: Reilly--------------Juulsen
Extra : Cale Fleury

1: Price
2: Primeau

*Prospect for 4th center : Jake Evans, Jacob Olofsson

We need a 2nd RW and a 1rst LHD
Player available or picks :
NHlers : Petry, Hudon, Agostino, Deslaurier, Byron, Shaw, Schlemko, Benn, Kulak, Lindgren, Niemi
Prospects : Joni Ikonen, Cam Hillis, ( Romanov ( not sure, he seems to be good ) ), Jesse Ylonen, 2019 first round pick, 2019 (2) 2nd round pick, 2019 others round picks, 2020 first round pick and 2020 others round pick

Make proposal for Young LHD and good 2nd line RW
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Mackiaveli

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Marc Bergevin said:
I think my team needs a good 2nd line RW to play with Poehling and Droin but there is no one in my team today that could take that role in 2 or 3 years...please guys give me some ideas and proposal... ( Young players please )

1: Domi----------Kotkaniemi----------Suzuki
2: Drouin--------Poehling--------------?
3: Tatar----------Danault--------------Gallagher
4: Lehkonen---*Prospect-------------Armia

1: ---?-----------------Weber
2: Mete---------------Brook
3: Reilly--------------Juulsen
Extra : Cale Fleury

1: Price
2: Primeau

*Prospect for 4th center : Jake Evans, Jacob Olofsson

We need a 2nd RW and a 1rst LHD
Player available or picks :
NHlers : Petry, Hudon, Agostino, Deslaurier, Byron, Shaw, Schlemko, Benn, Kulak, Lindgren, Niemi
Prospects : Joni Ikonen, Cam Hillis, ( Romanov ( not sure, he seems to be good ) ), Jesse Ylonen, 2019 first round pick, 2019 (2) 2nd round pick, 2019 others round picks, 2020 first round pick and 2020 others round pick

Make proposal for Young LHD and good 2nd line RW
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Habs likely end up drafting Caufield barring some insane playoff run, or some monstrous tanking. Leason, Beaucage and Grewe are likely to be a great look in the 2nd round as well.

Ikonen, Ylonen, and Romanov are all going to be NHL caliber prospects.
 

Stripper

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Is Poehling projected to be "that" good? A top 6 role in 2 years? Suzuki first line right wing... Seems like wishful thinking to me...
 
crackdown44

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Stripper said:
Is Poehling projected to be "that" good? A top 6 role in 2 years? Suzuki first line right wing... Seems like wishful thinking to me...
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Seems like standard HF prospect overrating to me. Nothing to see here
 

Mackiaveli

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Stripper said:
Is Poehling projected to be "that" good? A top 6 role in 2 years? Suzuki first line right wing... Seems like wishful thinking to me...
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Within 2 years? probably not; but Poehling is going to be an elite 3C/great 2C through his career; similar to a Krejci type, not necessarily as good though.

Suzuki similarly is looking like an elite prospect; and his size and skillset suggests he is going to be a lot better on the wing than down the middle; though it's tough to say. He isn't a big enough upgrade over Byron/Armia/Lehkonen currently to justify stunting his growth by putting him in a bottom 6 role here as opposed to letting him run rampant in the O.

Both guys should be with Laval next year to spend a bit of time with Ducharme, and likely join the team in 2020 both in middle 6 roles.

Prairie Habs said:
2RW is definitely not an area of need for us.
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I adamantly disagree; the right wing is our second weakest position after LD. Gallagher, Drouin and Tatar are solid bonafied top 6 wingers, Lehkonen has shown flashes of brilliance but he is incredibly inconsistent to the point we can't just call it bad luck anymore.

Patches is the best pure goal scorer this team has had since Kovalev; and we need one. We are an all-lines effort team that scores from the gritty areas, but we desperately need an elite goal scorer. Was honestly hoping we ended up tanking out for Kakko, but it is what it is.
 

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crackdown44 said:
Seems like standard HF prospect overrating to me. Nothing to see here
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Been there, done that. Would be fun if all the players ended up obtaining their potential, but it's just not realistic.
Kaperi Spacey said:
Poehling is a futur 3rd liner, imo. But some fans are high on him.
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A third line center is more plausible... But even then, wasn't McCaron supposed to be the second coming of Lucic? I expect Poehling to be burning the AHL in two years, unless he has an impressive camp and rightfully deserves a spot in the top 9.
 

Mackiaveli

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On topic however, the pieces we have that are movable for assets are Petry, Shaw (as of late he has upped his stock tremendously), Byron and our picks/prospects. Nothing else should be made available outside of insane over-payments (Drouin/Domi/Kotkaniemi/Gallagher should be the absolute untouchables)

Unless we're adding a talent that makes us better now, and is under ~24 we shouldn't be making moves for players.
 

Mackiaveli

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But even then, wasn't McCaron supposed to be the second coming of Lucic?
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Mike's problem was his game doesn't work in today's NHL; he was a big physical player who didn't have the speed and stick skill it takes to be successful in 2015+. It's the same issue as Tinordi had; the Habs spent a few years drafting size because the biggest criticism of the team was how small they were. Lucic is suffering from a lot of the same issues; but he has a bit more footspeed to him so that's why he can make it work.

Stripper said:
expect Poehling to be burning the AHL in two years
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Yep, the kid is going to be playing on the top line with Suzuki under D.D

Stripper said:
unless he has an impressive camp and rightfully deserves a spot in the top 9.
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Unless we move out Danault, Poehling will be our 4C learning the defensive side of the game at the NHL level. He is one of the few players I do hope Claude is still around for (I'd rather Coach Q but oh well) because Claude helped shape Bergeron, and if Poehling can find the offensive flare he has the personality, build, and playstyle to fit the Bergeron mold. I think realistically he tops out as our 2C behind Kotkaniemi.
 

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Domi is almost a point per game player (35 in 37) who is playing center. Why convert him to the wing?

Just roll with Domi, Kotkaniemi, Poehling down the middle in the long term future. If Kotkaniemi passes Domi then it is an even bigger plus.

Then figure out the fourth line center when need be. It can be Danault, some prospect or a UFA. That is the easy one to fill out.
 
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Nick Bjugstad for Juulsen straight up or Fleury + one of your 2019 2nd round picks

Could be used as a middle six C or RW option, big body along the boards and down low. 2nd PP/PK capability as well.
2.5 years left with 4.1 million caphit, FLA could retain a bit if need be to increase his value.
 

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Mackiaveli said:
Unless we move out Danault, Poehling will be our 4C learning the defensive side of the game at the NHL level. He is one of the few players I do hope Claude is still around for (I'd rather Coach Q but oh well) because Claude helped shape Bergeron, and if Poehling can find the offensive flare he has the personality, build, and playstyle to fit the Bergeron mold. I think realistically he tops out as our 2C behind Kotkaniemi.
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I'd rather see Poehling piling up points in the AHL and play around 19 minutes per night than him being on the 4th line playing for 6. As for the Bergeron comparaison... too soon to tell. Bergeron is elite in his own way and was having a career year until the accident.

For now, I'll be happy if Peohling becomes a NHL player, period. What line he ends up on will depend on him and a little luck.
 
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ThePatientPanther said:
Nick Bjugstad for Juulsen straight up or Fleury + one of your 2019 2nd round picks

Could be used as a middle six C or RW option, big body along the boards and down low. 2nd PP/PK capability as well.
2.5 years left with 4.1 million caphit, FLA could retain a bit if need be to increase his value.
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No need of Bjustad in Montreal... Wont give up young players for him..
 
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cave troll said:
W8, Do I see Domi and Drouin separated and Domi on wing? Why is that?
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Honestly think it might happen in the future and i got nothing against it. an other top 10 pick Center, Kotkaniemi, poehling panning out, could mean Domi back to the wing and i think he could do as well or even better offensively there!
 
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Kaperi Spacey said:
Poehling is a futur 3rd liner, imo. But some fans are high on him.
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Most likely, Kotkaniemi will be a 2nd liner and Poehling a 3rd.

In my team, we're just screwed anyway and still have low level center on the top 6 for years to come.

... and Jake Evans should be the name on the 4th line
 
Marc Bergevin

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bleuetbio said:
Most likely, Kotkaniemi will be a 2nd liner and Poehling a 3rd.

In my team, we're just screwed anyway and still have low level center on the top 6 for years to come.

... and Jake Evans should be the name on the 4th line
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KOTKANIEMI WILL BE OUR 1RST CENTER POINT ! Stop saying that he is 2nd line... He got the talent to be number one !!! Ouf I have enough of these fake HABS fans
 
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bleuetbio said:
Most likely, Kotkaniemi will be a 2nd liner and Poehling a 3rd.

In my team, we're just screwed anyway and still have low level center on the top 6 for years to come.

... and Jake Evans should be the name on the 4th line
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Kotk is already the Habs second line centre. There's very little chance that he has zero progression over the next 5 years.
 
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