Montreal Canadiens possess good depth and skill at all positions

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The Montreal Canadiens spent the 2013 off-season addressing various holes in their organizational depth chart and now have good balance throughout their system. Montreal's management philosophy is to give their prospects every opportunity to seize a spot on the NHL roster. The organization is not afraid to put rookies into regular season NHL games for evaluation purposes and the approach has worked very well so far.



The Canadiens are seeing concrete results at the NHL level with sophomores, Alex Galchenyuk and Brendan Gallagher playing important roles in the top-nine group, and Michael Bournival seizing his opportunity to stay in the line-up due to injuries.… read more



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sharks9

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The Habs have given the kids the chance...at forward anyway...on D they seem to be much less patient... ( NB and MT )

Defensemen usually take longer to develop though so we just need to be patient with them. They'll get their chances.
 

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The Montreal Canadiens spent the 2013 off-season addressing various holes in their organizational depth chart and now have good balance throughout their system. Montreal's management philosophy is to give their prospects every opportunity to seize a spot on the NHL roster. The organization is not afraid to put rookies into regular season NHL games for evaluation purposes and the approach has worked very well so far.



The Canadiens are seeing concrete results at the NHL level with sophomores, Alex Galchenyuk and Brendan Gallagher playing important roles in the top-nine group, and Michael Bournival seizing his opportunity to stay in the line-up due to injuries.… read more



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All I can say is that an NHL team needs more than nine forwards and five Dmen. It's necessary to rest them. That's when the trouble sets in.
 

sventington

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The Habs have given the kids the chance...at forward anyway...on D they seem to be much less patient... ( NB and MT )

Tinordi just wasn't ready. Once the preseason ended, his physicality disappeared. Meanwhile Bournival has been effective from day 1, so he stayed up.
 

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The Montreal Canadiens spent the 2013 off-season addressing various holes in their organizational depth chart and now have good balance throughout their system. Montreal's management philosophy is to give their prospects every opportunity to seize a spot on the NHL roster. The organization is not afraid to put rookies into regular season NHL games for evaluation purposes and the approach has worked very well so far.



The Canadiens are seeing concrete results at the NHL level with sophomores, Alex Galchenyuk and Brendan Gallagher playing important roles in the top-nine group, and Michael Bournival seizing his opportunity to stay in the line-up due to injuries.… read more



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Yeah, great.
But, the obvious weakness despite the brilliant insights of PJ Stock, Ray Ferraro, and the other geniuses without jobs in hockey, is NOT size; rather, the problem is goal scoring.

We lack, and have for some time, a 40-50 goal scorer--the kind of player who can change a game.

Our team is extremely well-coached, no matter what the tons of Therrien replacements on this and other boards say. We were well-coach under Jacques Martin, as well. That's easy to pinpoint: penalty kill is excellent, power play is excellent and opening periods usually are excellent. These are all down to preparation, coaching and effort. Yet these are the three things that posters here and everywhere--ever wonder why Glenn Healy has no job with a hockey team besides being a master of the obvious, snarky, and talentless--whinge about overwhelmingly, along with size.

Guess what, as games wear on and teams adjust the talent takes over. Our team is sorely lacking in pure talent, especially goal scoring talent!

Want to know why David Desharnais is in the NHL? Look in a mirror! It is our fault. No other team in the league would take a chance on him but our team has no other choice but employ as much talent as they can possibly scrounge, including fringe and, admittedly, small players b/c the Mtl fans and press REGARDLESS OF LANGUAGE would never tolerate a succession of bottom-five finishes, a la Edmonton, Pittsburgh, et al. You can point to Detroit's supposed Euro pipeline but that's a myth. They got lucky twice, and haven't had a decent draft in over a decade. They tanked, got Yzerman and some pieces, signed free agents and got lucky, but that franchise changed b/c of Yzerman and the fruits of sucking for years.

How many of those seasons would we tolerate? We give our team no choice but to scrounge for guys like DD. He wouldn 't exist elsewhere, but it's our fault.
 

mustardnight*

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Yeah, great.
But, the obvious weakness despite the brilliant insights of PJ Stock, Ray Ferraro, and the other geniuses without jobs in hockey, is NOT size; rather, the problem is goal scoring.

We lack, and have for some time, a 40-50 goal scorer--the kind of player who can change a game.

Our team is extremely well-coached, no matter what the tons of Therrien replacements on this and other boards say. We were well-coach under Jacques Martin, as well. That's easy to pinpoint: penalty kill is excellent, power play is excellent and opening periods usually are excellent. These are all down to preparation, coaching and effort. Yet these are the three things that posters here and everywhere--ever wonder why Glenn Healy has no job with a hockey team besides being a master of the obvious, snarky, and talentless--whinge about overwhelmingly, along with size.

Guess what, as games wear on and teams adjust the talent takes over. Our team is sorely lacking in pure talent, especially goal scoring talent!

Want to know why David Desharnais is in the NHL? Look in a mirror! It is our fault. No other team in the league would take a chance on him but our team has no other choice but employ as much talent as they can possibly scrounge, including fringe and, admittedly, small players b/c the Mtl fans and press REGARDLESS OF LANGUAGE would never tolerate a succession of bottom-five finishes, a la Edmonton, Pittsburgh, et al. You can point to Detroit's supposed Euro pipeline but that's a myth. They got lucky twice, and haven't had a decent draft in over a decade. They tanked, got Yzerman and some pieces, signed free agents and got lucky, but that franchise changed b/c of Yzerman and the fruits of sucking for years.

How many of those seasons would we tolerate? We give our team no choice but to scrounge for guys like DD. He wouldn 't exist elsewhere, but it's our fault.

You're getting ahead of yourself.

Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Price and Subban are all difference makers. As in, they have and will continue to make a difference. Pacioretty can be that type of player as well.

You're being pessimistic. As much as the OP says we have "depth", our"depth" barely plays 50 games a season because someone is always injured for an extended period.

If our players keep injuring themselves, the depth we rely on disappears.
 

Monctonscout

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The Habs have given the kids the chance...at forward anyway...on D they seem to be much less patient... ( NB and MT )

Defensemen generally mature later. Forwards can make a mistake and it won't necessarily a cost a goal. last year Gallagher and Galchenyuk were insulated and had good years. Harder to do on defense.
 

S Bah

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The depth the Habs have in their system will only truly be appreciated as the players from our last four drafts begin playing in Montreal. Hopefully the Habs draft some 1st round speed/talent like Vrana/Ehlers while using the 2nd & 3rd round picks to acquire the energy/grit players necessary to keep control over the boards and corners. Didier and Deitz should help Tinordi in the gritty defencemen needed to keep the opposition from owning the Habs like they have in the last two decades.:nod:
 

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