GDT: Montreal Canadiens @ Detroit Red Wings - MON 7:30PM - RDS/SNE

[CH25]

Rather Sekac in the lineup than Bournival or Thomas

I hope he puts him back and sits Malhotra.

 

[Smokey Thompson]

I disagree with you. Come on now...

Since when is a team atop a conference not a contender?

Before this team and the DD bashing, when was the last time it happened?

All those times Anaheim finished a top the Western conference I had them as underdogs to win and definitely not contenders because of huge flaws with their roster. They always had pretty weak centre depth and D depth. They'd finish at the top of the West because they were so top heavy and because Perry-Getzlaf can singlehandedly win games against half the teams in the league. Put Getzlaf against a Zetterberg / Toews / Kopitar for 7 games and his team will lose pretty easily. (they have Kessler now but I'm talking about the past few seasons)

Being first in the conference does not make you a contender. And the poster you quoted presented a pretty glaring flaw that can't be ignored.

 

[CH25]

I disagree with you. Come on now...

Since when is a team atop a conference not a contender?

Before this team and the DD bashing, when was the last time it happened?

He's right. No way this team wins a cup with DD at #1 C.

 

[Tabarouette]

All those times Anaheim finished a top the Western conference I had them as underdogs to win and definitely not contenders because of huge flaws with their roster. They always had pretty weak centre depth and D depth. They'd finish at the top of the West because they were so top heavy and because Perry-Getzlaf can singlehandedly win games against half the teams in the league. Put Getzlaf against a Zetterberg / Toews / Kopitar for 7 games and his team will lose pretty easily. (they have Kessler now but I'm talking about the past few seasons)

Being first in the conference does not make you a contender. And the poster you quoted presented a pretty glaring flaw that can't be ignored.

we actually had a GREAT run in the playoff last year, what is so different about the team this year that makes you say we won't have the same kind of run?

Gionta, Brière, Budaj and Gorges weren't exactly key factors in post-season... And Vanek was straight up useless in the playoffs. DD was our #1 center for that run too and it worked, eventhough he's a terrible first center

 

[Ezpz]

I disagree with you. Come on now...

Since when is a team atop a conference not a contender?

Before this team and the DD bashing, when was the last time it happened?

Last year Colorado weren't a contender. Rangers in 2012 weren't. Washington weren't in 2011. Habs weren't in 2008.

 

[Smokey Thompson]

we actually had a GREAT run in the playoff last year, what is so different about the team this year that makes you say we won't have the same kind of run?

Gionta, Brière, Budaj and Gorges weren't exactly key factors in post-season... And Vanek was straight up useless in the playoffs. DD was our #1 center for that run too and it worked, eventhough he's a terrible first center

You're right and we probably would've made it to the Finals if not for Kreider. But I still have trouble calling the team a contender when they have a hole at such an important position. It's more of a testament to Subban, Price, and our depth that we can actually win the East this year. Chicago / LA / St-Louis would have a field day with our centre depth.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.

 

[Tabarouette]

You're right and we probably would've made it to the Finals if not for Kreider. But I still have trouble calling the team a contender when they have a hole at such an important position. It's more of a testament to Subban, Price, and our depth that we can actually win the East this year. Chicago / LA / St-Louis would have a field day with our centre depth.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.

then again winning the east still isn't that hard IMO, the numbers are similar but I still think we're far far behind... The real cup final is still the western conference final

 

[JayKing]

and the dropped points are against Buffalo, Arizona and Edmonton

 

[CH25]

The offense is hopeless with Therrien. In his presser after last game he was asked what's missing to get the offense going and he had no answer and started praising the Leafs D and then went on rambling about useless things.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

Pateryn called up tonight ahead of the game.....interdasting

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

The offense is hopeless with Therrien. In his presser after last game he was asked what's missing to get the offense going and he had no answer and started praising the Leafs D and then went on rambling about useless things.

The best coaches in the league would have trouble scoring many goals with our offense, we have some very good offensive players like Pacioretty, Chucky and Plekanec but other than that we have guys like Gally, Eller, Parenteau and DD who are basically 25-40 point players.. we need another talented offensive player badly.

 

[BLONG7]

The best coaches in the league would have trouble scoring many goals with our offense, we have some very good offensive players like Pacioretty, Chucky and Plekanec but other than that we have guys like Gally, Eller, Parenteau and DD who are basically 25-40 point players.. we need another talented offensive player badly.

If I remember, last year, we added Vanek, and the coach initially had him on his off wing, on the 3rd line, as a checking winger...Vanek was confused...MT is all about dat system, and playing a system, where even 5 vs 5 we look like we are killing a penalty...it's weird the way we get hemmed in our own zone...
We seem to score off of our transition game, when we force turnovers...we do need another top 6 forward, badly...

 

[DekeLikeYouMeanIt]

Sure Malhotra is more useful than Sekac. Sure Eller is a better winger than DLR is a centre... ****.

 

[Habs76]

You're right and we probably would've made it to the Finals if not for Kreider. But I still have trouble calling the team a contender when they have a hole at such an important position. It's more of a testament to Subban, Price, and our depth that we can actually win the East this year. Chicago / LA / St-Louis would have a field day with our centre depth.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.

We have really good C depth actually.

Plekanec
Galchenyuk
Eller
Sekac
Desharnais
De La Rose
Bournival
Malhotra

 

[Pierre Dagenais]

We have really good C depth actually.

Plekanec
Galchenyuk
Eller
Sekac
Desharnais
De La Rose
Bournival
Malhotra

Sekac doesn't play C and Bournival is mostly a winger now

 

[Haaabs]

so well when he played with Galchenyuk is because Galchenyuk is a winger playing like a center. Galchenyuk carried the puck and fed Eller and Gallagher. Eller did not have to create anything on that line.

I agree with you there. Eller has thrived offensively with two players, Galchenyuk and Kostitsyn. He's more of a shooter than a passer, so having those two guys feed him the puck did wonders for him.

I'd change up the bottom two lines.
Sekac-DLR-Thomas as our third line, good on the boards and would generate chances. Both Sekac and DLR are good defensively and Thomas uses his speed well.

Bournival-Prust-Weise as our 4th. Bournival and Weise have the speed and the board play to win most dump and chases. Prust can then help out on the boards.

 

[Smokey Thompson]

We have really good C depth actually.

Plekanec
Galchenyuk
Eller
Sekac
Desharnais
De La Rose
Bournival
Malhotra

In reality:

Desharnais
Plekanec
Eller / DLR
Malhotra / DLR

Doesn't look so good now does it ?

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

We have really good C depth actually.

Plekanec
Galchenyuk
Eller
Sekac
Desharnais
De La Rose
Bournival
Malhotra

Sekac doesn't play C and Bournival is mostly a winger now

Galchenyuk doesn't play C and Eller might be a winger from now on.

Plekanec
Desharnais
De La Rose
Malhotra.

Thanks Michel!

 

[sheed36]

Not surprised to see Gallagher back with DD and Pacioretty since it's been leading up to this happening again for a while now. I'm not crazy about Eller playing wing either but at least he's playing with some offensive players so hopefully he can produce some points. It probably won't last the entire game tonight though.

I still don't know why MT doesn't give the old EGG line a few games. They looked very good when first put together and to start last season but I guess MT doesn't think so since he won't try them together anymore.

 

[mariemarie]

The offense is hopeless with Therrien. In his presser after last game he was asked what's missing to get the offense going and he had no answer and started praising the Leafs D and then went on rambling about useless things.

Yep. He doesnt understand pacio has playmaking ability and he suffers from his linemates. Dd is way too predictable and the other coaches take advantage of it they double shift their star centre when dd is on the ice.

 

[HabsDieHard*]

The offense is hopeless with Therrien. In his presser after last game he was asked what's missing to get the offense going and he had no answer and started praising the Leafs D and then went on rambling about useless things.

It is truly amazing how often he makes excuses for his teams' poor offensive performances.

It's everyone elses' fault but his, that much is clear.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I'd like

Galchenyuk
Pleks
Eller/DD
DLR

 

[Smokey Thompson]

I'd like

Galchenyuk
Pleks
Eller/DD
DLR

I think we all would

 

[Tabarouette]

It is truly amazing how often he makes excuses for his teams' poor offensive performances.

It's everyone elses' fault but his, that much is clear.

name a coach that ever blames himself in the NHL

Press conferences are useless politically correct PR garbage

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

My ideal lineup probably being something like

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
DD-Plekanec-Sekac
Prust-Eller-Thomas
Bournival-DLR-Weise