MLB orders Brewers to upgrade American Family Field, estimated to cost $448 million
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MLB basically giving the Brewers a receipt to go ask for public monies from the city, county, and state.
Shouldn’t they ask Rogers to do the same to Rogers centre that place still is garbage even with the renovation they did
That's still a work in progress.
And Rogers was beginning to look into replacing the SkyDome, but decided with the current economic conditions in this immediate post-pandemic period that asking for public money was probably a PR nightmare they could do without. So they're renovating in phases.
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Roger’s isn’t getting any public money no matter when they ask, after turning 600 million into 25 million. Public won’t get bent over again.
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Manfred is apparently touring and assessing all stadiums, he very well might
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varsaku
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I think unless you are the NFL, it is going to get more tough to get public money to fund stadiums. People are finally coming to their senses and are realizing how much of waste it is.
Agreed. Though ironically enough the NFL stadiums might have the easiest time getting money, but they're by far the worst investment as sports venues. Used the least, cost the most, take up so much space that they don't belong in dense urban cores. Arenas, which have a plethora of uses outside the primary tenant and are relatively compact, and ballparks, which get the most home dates and can work in urban areas, are far better value for the money.
Sounds like a threat. The public should still say no. These stadiums and arenas are private projects and should be paid for with private money.
Especially the open air ones in colder climates up north. October to March can’t use for anything other than football and I doubt there is any activity on Sept in those stadiums.
Best case you have something beginning in April.
Plus with open air everything is subject to the elements so faster wear and tear.
Curious to see how these stadiums built around the early 2000’s like in Seattle, Philly, NE age as they are into year 20. Baltimore is at 25 years.
Word was that Cleveland which opened in 1999 wanted a new one already.
varsaku
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You can bet when the time comes everyone of the northern NFL teams will build a domed stadium to get the super bowl like the Vikings. It has become an unofficial requirement for a northern team to host one.
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varsaku
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I am sure those northern cities will have to do a cost benefit analysis of going with a dome or not. They know their numbers and will probably ask the lions, Vikings, Colts what their numbers are since they would get more events.
But also, what is the movement to get grass fields and how can they can managed? In Tottenheim, they have a grass field that can be removed with an artificial one under it. Question is can they do both grass fields if Seattle, NE share with MLS? And what is the turnaround time before you can play on the grass once it is returned to the surface. Think I saw that Tottenheim can play soccer in only a few days. But they aren’t doing the hard plants that nfl players do.
LadyStanley
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If what needs to help build/improve stadium is better roads, water/sewer, power, then perhaps civic entities should pay some of those costs (for public benefit). But not without limits.
If those upgrades only serve the stadium or arena they should be paid for with private funds and not tax dollars.
AdmiralsFan24
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I looked into this more. The repairs, which are mostly routine maintenance stuff, are actually already government obligations as part of the Brewers' lease. What's going on is the governor, a Democrat, wants to use a portion of a budget surplus to take care of those obligations up front and so not have to pay interest on bonds covering them, and the legislature, which is GOP controlled thanks to some really ridiculous gerrymandering passed under the previous GOP governor, is sitting on the idea because they don't want to give the current governor the credit for the budget savings.
In other words, it's not a new demand for money from MLB of any sort, it's just them telling the legislature to get off their petulant asses.
In other words, it's not a new demand for money from MLB of any sort, it's just them telling the legislature to get off their petulant asses.
Just to clarify, Rogers is about the fourth owner of the dome. The taxpayers got bent over in 1994 when they paid off all the debts and sold the Skydome for $151M a to consortium including Labatt. That consortium went bankrupt and Sportsco bought the dome out of bankruptcy for $80M. Sportsco eventually sold the hotel for $31M to Rennaisance and the dome itself to Rogers for $25M.
A lot of people seem to think that Rogers bought the dome from the province for $25M and that’s just not the case.
What people don’t also realize Rogers Centre is worthless if u don’t also own the Blue Jays
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Voight
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Even then, teams usually get one Super Bowl shortly after the stadium opens and thats it.
Ford Field & Lucas Oil Stadium haven't hosted a second one. Doesn't seem like they will anytime in the near future. Ditto for US Bank Stadium. Warm weather locations are almost always going to get the big game, especially when the Miami/NOLA duo is guaranteed to get one very few years. Vegas & LA are likely going to join them in that regard.
Most northern cities with teams aren't "premier" destinations either except for Chicago and NY.
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