MLB off-season news & notes thread

[Marc the Habs Fan]

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[Voight]

http://triblive.com/sports/pirates/11214503-74/mccutchen-pirates-trade

Not surprised. They'll get great value for him at 29 going on 30, locked in at a cheap deal till 2018; basically 2019 with his club option.

Time for them to retool, they have some solid youngsters like Cole & Taillion plus their prospects.

 

[Voight]

Man John Gibbons can thank the Tigers & Aaron Sanchez for saving his job.

 

[Eyedea]

Man John Gibbons can thank the Tigers & Aaron Sanchez for saving his job.

And he could just as easily blame the offence for costing him if the outcome was reversed.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

I look forward to the riots in Pittsburgh when McCutchen gets traded, regardless of that being the smartest thing the Pirates could do right now.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

I look forward to the riots in Pittsburgh when McCutchen gets traded, regardless of that being the smartest thing the Pirates could do right now.

Trading him while his value is low is the smartest thing?

I'd probably wait until mid-season 2017 or next off-season.

 

[robert terwilliger]

they need a fresh start and to move on, not go into the season with that whole thing weighing on their backs.

 

[Voight]

Trading him while his value is low is the smartest thing?

I'd probably wait until mid-season 2017 or next off-season.

Doesn't matter if he had a bad season. GMs and executives know how good of a player he is, & the fact that the Pirates have him under control for 2 more seasons will dissuade teams from low balling them.

That also plays to their advantage in the sense the team will be acquiring him for his age 30&31 seasons @ a very very cheap 14 million, & someone who had 33 fWAR from 2011-2015.

 

[Voight]

Someone edited the Padres Wikipedia page.. "Madres"

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Not sure why. Who the hell dislikes the Padres?

 

[ChiGuySez]

Well well. Looks like Blue Jay beer tossing fan has been identified and turned his sick self into the po po.

Ken Pagan Postmedia journalist

Postmedia journalist. Waiting for TO *********.

Switzerland or Hong Kong could be a relocation options for him.

 

[JWK]

Not sure why. Who the hell dislikes the Padres?

I was thinking the same thing

 

[ChiGuySez]

Padres blow chunks.

 

[Voight]

Not sure why. Who the hell dislikes the Padres?

This is what i was thinking. They never hurt anybody

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Trading him while his value is low is the smartest thing?

I'd probably wait until mid-season 2017 or next off-season.

His value certainly isn't at its highest, but it may never be higher than it is right now again. There are big chunks of Cutch's game that aren't going to recover and he needs to adjust to make-up for...he's not getting his speed back. Hopefully he redefines his game around his evolving skillset, but he sure as hell didn't show any willingness to do that this year.

they need a fresh start and to move on, not go into the season with that whole thing weighing on their backs.

A definite concern.

Doesn't matter if he had a bad season. GMs and executives know how good of a player he is, & the fact that the Pirates have him under control for 2 more seasons will dissuade teams from low balling them.

That also plays to their advantage in the sense the team will be acquiring him for his age 30&31 seasons @ a very very cheap 14 million, & someone who had 33 fWAR from 2011-2015.

And this is the biggest thing...he still has a lot of value, which he may or may not have next year, he has a team-friendly contract even with his down year, and you can't help but look at the team's situation...McCutchen is the Pirates' third best center fielder today, and may soon be the fourth with Meadows being a blue chipper in AAA.

All I know is that I'm not open to offering him a long-term extension at this point in time, and I'd rather get a big haul via trade than have him play his contract out when the Pirates are flush with outfielders. He wasn't exactly a pleasant person this season, either...the way he publicly *****ed about a scorekeeper giving him an error on a play he should have made (which of course was overturned) really rubbed me the wrong way. Nothing was ever his fault this year. It was a dark turn considering his typically jovial nature.

I adore the man and I always will, but given the year he had, given the Pirates having an owner who doesn't like to spend a dime more than he has to, and given the Pirates' organizational depth at the position...you have to explore every option available, and it's hard to deny that a trade makes a lot of sense for every party involved.

 

[robert terwilliger]

fun with 4 beers in me on a holiday afternoon:

mccutchen for archer

 

[Blitzkrug]

Value seems...decent on paper?

Unlikely though since i assume the Rays probably want prospects and/or guys under team control.

 

[robert terwilliger]

archer has three years left under team control, mccutchen has two.

i bet there's more to add in especially if the pirates want to ante up.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Archer has 2 team options though, very team friendly.

 

[Voight]

Value seems...decent on paper?

Unlikely though since i assume the Rays probably want prospects and/or guys under team control.

Yea, Rays aren't going to pay Cutch when his deal is up and they are probably trying to get younger not older.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

This is what i was thinking. They never hurt anybody

They're so unassuming and quiet. They're like that guy in homeroom that gets average grades and doesn't really talk or bother anyone.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Braves make the Snitker hire official. Good move. They were night and day better after he took over (and Kemp was brought in).

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

And Ron Washington leaves Oakland to be their 3b coach.

 

[Fenway]

 

[Voight]

Was there any doubt tho? Sure they got swept but this team has been on and off every year since 2011.